Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

[RKenshin]

Damn that stupidly common and always practical item fouling my logic.

Dude we're talking about someone with a fully upgraded relic. It could happen.

Seriously though, KCrng/war spamming namas at the top of fights and sidewinder for killshots would have to be pretty sick.

I don't disagree but my point was that in the absense of that, or in a situation where kraken club would cause more harm then good, there really isn't anything else that's better to use on mobs your acc is capped/almost capped.

Hawkers? RAcc/AGI is wasted once capped. Trailers? RAcc is wasted from once capped. Francisca/Kriegsbeil? Racc/AGI is wasted once capped. When extra RAcc/AGI is wasted Vulcan's wins over all of those with the highest bonus of +5 STR and +12.5 RAtt, and really in an exp PT with a relic there's no reason you shouldn't be capped. On HNMs it may be different, but it depends largely on what other gear you're using, buffs, the mob, etc.

But again... With relic, merits (should sort of be default for DD relics), and at least decent gear you're pushing 100-150 total accuracy including acc bonus, and it's more than enough to cap you in most situations.

[The_OG_Nelta]

Vulcan is fine.

I pay my 12.50$ a month to play however the fuck i want.
And just Because I use

Wyvern Helm+1
Osode
E-Bow
Kabura Arrows
Raja's ring
Triumph Ring
Peacock Charm
Blood Gauntlets
2x Triumph Earings
VULCAN STAFF
Scout Belt
Amemet Mantle+1
Scout Bracers
Scout Socks

To WS. and I count as a bad player, then let it be.

[BRP]

I pay my 12.50$ a month to play however the fuck i want.

You can be wearing anything in the game... good... bad... decent... unique... anything...

But that all doesn't matter once this phrase is said.

Once it's said, it's official whoever says it sucks at FFXI.

[Beckwin]

Hey now, I just provided a possible answer to your question.

I still prefer Kriegs over Fire/Vulcan's though. Can talk all you want about capping racc, but then you have to realize that your primary weaponskill is Sidewinder (biggest head->desk WS of them all). Also, axe is just more versatile imo. And if you're subbing nin for whatever reason, axes win hands down.

To each their own though.

[Falaras]

Kraken + Relic Bow would be wasted. I'd use /war hands down with Yoich because of the hateless WS and would rather have a Vulcans then a single weilded Kreigs. Guess /nin you could choose something diffrent but like Rukenshin said, capped acc.

[Beckwin]

The hateless property of Namas is kinda what makes KC /war appealing with Yoichi. KC rng is generally stuck subbing ninja because one of your slugwinders in a fight will pull hate, so you don't wanna be an mp sponge. Namas solves that, opening up /war and allowing you to end fights with beefier sidewinders as well.

[Akanei]

Yeah but if you're gonna use KC, you may as well sub nin and fire off slugs with a culverin +1. Why waste time with namas when the only real time you're gonna effectively kc and ws spam is with something that gets zerged or dies nearly immediately after you WS?

I just don't see merit in throwing a KC at something like tiamat or cerb or lolkhimmy.

[Beckwin]

I was talking about xp type situations >.>

yeah its pretty much implied that rng will never touch HNMs with a KC. On HNMs I'd prefer the racc on a kriegs/hawkers though.

Sorry about any confusion lol.

[Kkel]

The solution to the main hand weapon /w Yoichi issue is easy.

Change Jobs -> 75SAM/37WAR.

[Beckwin]

Uh, tp bonus on hagun won't affect ranged WS.

[Akanei]

Soboro, nub.

[Beckwin]

The solution to the main hand weapon /w Yoichi issue is easy.

Change Game -> WoW.

is that so? ; ;

[Falaras]

A triple proc alone does what like half the damage of a Namas? I don't think Kclubin would be worth it using a Yoich. Like he said Culverin+1 if you wanna Club.

[Kkel]

The solution to the main hand weapon /w Yoichi issue is easy.

Change Game -> WoW.

is that so? ; ;

Indeed. A job that can reach 100% TP in 6 hits that can attack with an A+ rated weapon than attacks multiple times per round (Soboro). This job can also reach 100%+ TP with 2 seperate JA's (Meditate & Barrage), use Zerk, and fire off hate-free WS's that have the potential to do triple damage.

I'm no slouch when it comes to WAR in XP, i'll put up numbers on par with Ryko anyday. But Demyn, as SAM/WAR with Soboro and Yoichi, was a fucking beast in XP.

[Ryko]

While that is very true, check the quote again.

[Kkel]

WoW is never the correct answer.

[Dezzimal]

:/

[Senoska]

:/

pfffffffffffft

[Sehrahin]

Rhaegal- Bearded Hume on Ramuh.. lolKikoku

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[Hapleauce]

Delta - Siren - Kikoku

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2 Kikoku's in a row oh shi-