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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    BLM is so over rated in most situations. Melee jobs have taken huge steps in damage dealing.
    Sorry, I must have missed something, but when did melee jobs take HUGE steps in damage? I don't recall there being any significantly new gear that was any better than the 2005 gear that was released. Magic? I guess. I mean unless you're talking about awesome lv 2 merits melee get like TOMAHAWK and DIABOLIC EYE and MUTED SOUL, oh and who could forget FORMLESS STRIKES that make monks pwn, even though magic resist for it builds up before it wears off. Hmm.................................. >.<
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    BLM is so over rated in most situations. Melee jobs have taken huge steps in damage dealing.
    Sorry, I must have missed something, but when did melee jobs take HUGE steps in damage? I don't recall there being any significantly new gear that was any better than the 2005 gear that was released. Magic? I guess. I mean unless you're talking about awesome lv 2 merits melee get like TOMAHAWK and DIABOLIC EYE and MUTED SOUL, oh and who could forget FORMLESS STRIKES that make monks pwn, even though magic resist for it builds up before it wears off. Hmm.................................. >.<
    Melee jobs have always been great at dealing damage, it's just taken the playerbase a long time to realize this. And apparently, you're one of the last few to wake up to the melee-burn revolution.
    Hey aurik, where's that picture of you after dynamis tav on BLM? Must've been before you got your spharai. Makes sense!@

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    BLM is so over rated in most situations. Melee jobs have taken huge steps in damage dealing.
    Sorry, I must have missed something, but when did melee jobs take HUGE steps in damage? I don't recall there being any significantly new gear that was any better than the 2005 gear that was released. Magic? I guess. I mean unless you're talking about awesome lv 2 merits melee get like TOMAHAWK and DIABOLIC EYE and MUTED SOUL, oh and who could forget FORMLESS STRIKES that make monks pwn, even though magic resist for it builds up before it wears off. Hmm.................................. >.<
    You seriously are one of the dumbest people. My MNK/DRK will destroy my BLM, your BLM and most people's BLMs on anything that doesn't just straight up have physical damage reduction. Try Manaburning something like Cerberus though, good luck.

    With more merits, better food and gear and a better understanding of the game mechanics, melee have come a long way and can easily trump BLMs damage in less time. You just sound like an idiot who has no idea how to use melee properly and is stuck in the age of manaburning everything.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    My MNK/DRK
    yeah, cerebus is really worth it for that algol. I mean, how can we make DRKs shittier than they already are? Best GS ever! (if you ignore subduer, martial sword, relic)

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    My MNK/DRK
    yeah, cerebus is really worth it for that algol. I mean, how can we make DRKs shittier than they already are? Best GS ever! (if you ignore subduer, martial sword, relic)
    lol, someone just ban the idiot, omg.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    BLM is so over rated in most situations. Melee jobs have taken huge steps in damage dealing.
    Sorry, I must have missed something, but when did melee jobs take HUGE steps in damage? I don't recall there being any significantly new gear that was any better than the 2005 gear that was released. Magic? I guess. I mean unless you're talking about awesome lv 2 merits melee get like TOMAHAWK and DIABOLIC EYE and MUTED SOUL, oh and who could forget FORMLESS STRIKES that make monks pwn, even though magic resist for it builds up before it wears off. Hmm.................................. >.<
    Melee jobs have always been great at dealing damage, it's just taken the playerbase a long time to realize this. And apparently, you're one of the last few to wake up to the melee-burn revolution.
    Hey aurik, where's that picture of you after dynamis tav on BLM? Must've been before you got your spharai. Makes sense!@
    Have you ever even stepped into Dynamis-Tavnazia? Meleeburn > manaburn in dynamis tavnazia as well, by the way.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Hey aurik, where's that picture of you after dynamis tav on BLM? Must've been before you got your spharai. Makes sense!@
    /gasp!

    You mean he was willing to use a different job to suit the strategy they decided on for an event?

    CALL THE THOUGHT POLICE!

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    BLM is so over rated in most situations. Melee jobs have taken huge steps in damage dealing.
    Sorry, I must have missed something, but when did melee jobs take HUGE steps in damage? I don't recall there being any significantly new gear that was any better than the 2005 gear that was released. Magic? I guess. I mean unless you're talking about awesome lv 2 merits melee get like TOMAHAWK and DIABOLIC EYE and MUTED SOUL, oh and who could forget FORMLESS STRIKES that make monks pwn, even though magic resist for it builds up before it wears off. Hmm.................................. >.<
    This guys a fucking idiot.

    Warrior: being able to have an extra 15 accuracy and 16 attack on both their axe and sword, an extra 5 STR, being able to keep berserk up for 3 minutes every 4:10 instead of 3 minutes every 5 min.

    Thief: feint, need I say more

    Monk: an extra 15 accuracy and 16 attack on their fists, not to mention an extra 2 DMG (276+16 = 292, which pushes you up 2 dmg lvls), being able to kick that much more often (hi2u dune boots)


    full weapon merits, for any job, is an extra ~15 accuracy and 16 attack. That's huge in itsself. You know what 8 merits in elemental skill is ?? Moot, since most bards should be able to land Threnodies. Do you know what threnody does. Let me relate it to you in a melee standpoint. Threnody lowers the magic evasion for an enemy to a certain element, which is hardly moot since most blm's can attain the 'accuracy' cap (resist rate) on most HNM's on their own. Do Bard's have a song that lowers a mob's evasion ? Last I checked, I dont think so.


    Merits have done a lot for melee's, more than you can possibly imagine.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Ban me why? I am making valid points.

    I mean, sure we can use MNK/DRK on cerebus, who constantly needs para, needs cures for blaze spikes, etc

    Or we can just have smns kill it just as easily with no para or cures needed. I mean really. Seriously. I'm serious here.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    You could just dot it to death too, no smns needed at all!

    Edit: or how about kill it through gallant's roll. Now that would be classy.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    You know what 8 merits in elemental skill is ?? Moot
    You were doing so well until that bullshit.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    You could just dot it to death too, no smns needed at all!
    Oh yeah, didn't you have a salvage strat that consisted of zombie killing a boss? A LS mate told me about that one.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    You could just dot it to death too, no smns needed at all!
    Oh yeah, didn't you have a salvage strat that consisted of zombie killing a boss? A LS mate told me about that one.
    lol

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Who fed the troll?

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    BLM is so over rated in most situations. Melee jobs have taken huge steps in damage dealing.
    Sorry, I must have missed something, but when did melee jobs take HUGE steps in damage? I don't recall there being any significantly new gear that was any better than the 2005 gear that was released. Magic? I guess. I mean unless you're talking about awesome lv 2 merits melee get like TOMAHAWK and DIABOLIC EYE and MUTED SOUL, oh and who could forget FORMLESS STRIKES that make monks pwn, even though magic resist for it builds up before it wears off. Hmm.................................. >.<
    This guys a fucking idiot.

    Warrior: being able to have an extra 15 accuracy and 16 attack on both their axe and sword, an extra 5 STR, being able to keep berserk up for 3 minutes every 4:10 instead of 3 minutes every 5 min.

    Thief: feint, need I say more

    Monk: an extra 15 accuracy and 16 attack on their fists, not to mention an extra 2 DMG (276+16 = 292, which pushes you up 2 dmg lvls), being able to kick that much more often (hi2u dune boots)


    full weapon merits, for any job, is an extra ~15 accuracy and 16 attack. That's huge in itsself. You know what 8 merits in elemental skill is ?? Moot, since most bards should be able to land Threnodies. Do you know what threnody does. Let me relate it to you in a melee standpoint. Threnody lowers the magic evasion for an enemy to a certain element, which is hardly moot since most blm's can attain the 'accuracy' cap (resist rate) on most HNM's on their own. Do Bard's have a song that lowers a mob's evasion ? Last I checked, I dont think so.


    Merits have done a lot for melee's, more than you can possibly imagine.
    Hi Nynja, melee combat merits were around in 2005. I know you were a thf then, but people still meritted.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    And how many salvage bosses have you killed, Moguri?

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Shuemue
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    You know what 8 merits in elemental skill is ?? Moot
    You were doing so well until that bullshit.
    Hardly, threnody is that damn good.
    8 elemental skill when compared to 8 weapon skill is a completely different ballgame.


    and WHAT THE FUCK AT SMN KILL ??
    SMN kills are so fucking slow. I hate summoner damage, I'd rather watch paint dry.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Ban me why? I am making valid points.

    I mean, sure we can use MNK/DRK on cerebus, who constantly needs para, needs cures for blaze spikes, etc

    Or we can just have smns kill it just as easily with no para or cures needed. I mean really. Seriously. I'm serious here.
    I wasn't saying MNK/DRK on Cerb for one. Two, your whole arguement has been BLM only, so take your BLM only arm and burn Cerb. You haven't made any points. Melee burning is just as easy and usually twice as fast on most things.

    Again, sounds like you and your people just fail at using melee.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    You could just dot it to death too, no smns needed at all!

    Edit: or how about kill it through gallant's roll. Now that would be classy.
    OMG HE SAID SMN NOT BLM!

    And this goes back to my point.....

    HI THERE TANK PARTY, as long as you live we are fine...tack on whatever DDs you want..

    Your points are so far from valid its not even funny WTF @ Subduer > Algol? JESUS lol Marital Sword? At least speak intelligently about melee

    /welcome DOT!...no damage dealers need apply, just port-a-potties lol Magma Hoplon you might do 50 damage per hour with dot!

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    And how many salvage bosses have you killed, Moguri?
    I've actually farmed all zones regularly except Zhalom. My LS currently has 7/8 pieces upgraded

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