Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

[Izzy]

ITT: People who don't have the money or means to get a finished relic pick at people whom get relics' gear because they're compensating for something else.

DID I GET IT RIGHT!?!?

[skurlover]

Soil Gorget

But I'm fairly confident that's simply joke gear.

Yeah, I was going off the top of my head and since I got Love Torque myself, I haven't bothered with Gorgets in a while. Not until I finish Mandau anyways.

As for Love Torque v. Justice Torque - Do we have any raw data about Mercy Stroke parses?

Mercy Stroke: STR60% modifier - STR +5 v. Dex +5 & Dagger Skill +7

[Tricen]

ITT: People who don't have the money or means to get a finished relic pick at people whom get relics' gear because they're compensating for something else.

DID I GET IT RIGHT!?!?

How close to Monogamy club are you?

[Izzy]

ITT: People who don't have the money or means to get a finished relic pick at people whom get relics' gear because they're compensating for something else.

DID I GET IT RIGHT!?!?

How close to Monogamy club are you?

3800/7000

I'm poor. I could be one of those fags that gimps themselves to finish, but I'm not willing to do that.

*EDIT* And since they broke the WS when WotG came out, I haven't been motivated to collect currency until they fix it... Sonomaa should bring it to the SE rep's attention personally! I fear they'll never ever know it's broke because I'm the only one who submitted a bug report Q_Q.

[Tricen]

Sounds sirius.....

[Izzy]

Sounds sirius.....

See, no one cares but me

If you could see me right now, I look like a sad puppy Q_Q *woof*

[Tricen]

Is Randgrith even a good WS lol...? What is it's hidden affect <_<

[Izzy]

Is Randgrith even a good WS lol...? What is it's hidden affect <_<

Mob evasion -40 (Shield Break)
My accuracy +40 (Speculated increase)

The description reads:
Delivers a Shield Break attack. Additional effect: Temporarily improves accuracy.

When you use it in Dynamis it's actually really fun to watch. You could be fighting a THF and everyone will be missing, then do a Randgrith and start hearing the clunks. Then, if you're using a Kraken Club, you can just see hit after hit after hit with no misses. Basically, I constantly have +40 accuracy because I'm always doing at least one WS every 30 seconds in addition to the -40 evasion the mob has once I do one WS. (again speculated until I can get out of Dynamis and test it.)

The problem now is that the modifiers or base damage was fucked up, and the WS is doing 200 damage instead of the usual 450-500 on Dynamis mobs now.

[Tricen]

That's not half bad The MP restore, restores MP regardless of the mob having MP right?

[Izzy]

That's not half bad The MP restore, restores MP regardless of the mob having MP right?

Right. It's not a shit ton of MP, but you figure it's enough to keep yourself alive without ever having to sit.

[Tricen]

That's pretty bad ass. Has anyone a stat that increases the amount restored?

[Izzy]

That's pretty bad ass. Has anyone a stat that increases the amount restored?

Don't think anyone has tested it, but even if there was you wouldn't wanna sacrifice your haste/acc gear for it. Plus almost all of WHM TP gear has +MND on it, which is what I would assume the modifier was if it does exist.

[baudelaire]

ITT: People who don't have the money or means to get a finished relic pick at people whom get relics' gear because they're compensating for something else.

DID I GET IT RIGHT!?!?

How close to Monogamy club are you?

3800/7000

I'm poor. I could be one of those fags that gimps themselves to finish, but I'm not willing to do that.

*EDIT* And since they fixed the WS when WotG came out, I haven't been motivated to collect currency until they fix it... Sonomaa should bring it to the SE rep's attention personally! I fear they'll never ever know it's broke because I'm the only one who submitted a bug report Q_Q.

Likelihood of them wanting a club to do 400-500 dmg WS's against dynamis mobs is probably pretty low. I'm most interested in seeing your haste build in action after you finish. I'd suggest a bird camp meripo with SAM/WAR, DRK/SAM, COR/RNG, WHM/NIN, BRD, BRD - with an outside healer to keep us up, just in case Bird camp would preclude off-handing K.club, so maybe a couple pts - one at birds and one on trolls.

[Izzy]

ITT: People who don't have the money or means to get a finished relic pick at people whom get relics' gear because they're compensating for something else.

DID I GET IT RIGHT!?!?

How close to Monogamy club are you?

3800/7000

I'm poor. I could be one of those fags that gimps themselves to finish, but I'm not willing to do that.

*EDIT* And since they fixed the WS when WotG came out, I haven't been motivated to collect currency until they fix it... Sonomaa should bring it to the SE rep's attention personally! I fear they'll never ever know it's broke because I'm the only one who submitted a bug report Q_Q.

Likelihood of them wanting a club to do 400-500 dmg WS's against dynamis mobs is probably pretty low. I'm most interested in seeing your haste build in action after you finish. I'd suggest a bird camp meripo with SAM/WAR, DRK/SAM, COR/RNG, WHM/NIN, BRD, BRD - with an outside healer to keep us up, just in case Bird camp would preclude off-handing K.club, so maybe a couple pts - one at birds and one on trolls.

I would get crushed so bad . Bovein already destroyed me. Granted I really shouldn't be competing with you or Ridill/Adaberk WAR's lol. Mjollnir would decrease the margin between us, but you both would still beat me by a decent amount.

Oh and my Hexa Strikes still do 400-600 to Dynamis mobs...so I don't think it's really a fix haha. It was just Randgrith that took a hit.

*EDIT* COR actually makes me parse lower . The double attack roll procs on the Kraken Club and I end up with 2 swings instead of 6 or 7.

[baudelaire]

Bovein kept pace with me, but I edged him out slightly. He also required an outside healer to keep him up during SE

For parties with k.club war/nin/rng types, I generally ask cor to use chaos and samurai rolls - samurai roll makes k.club even more uber, especially with a sam in the pt.

On another note - has anyone with a 2h relic tried hq smilodon on ws with atk capped? Would love to see how it compares to foragers and cerb+1... Outside being used by BLU's, this looks like it could be a great situational piece, just haven't gotten the chance to test.

[Bovein]

How's the amano now with the little 2H debuff going now? I wouldn't mind playing you at the Mamool staging point where food doesn't get eaten and TP doesn't get pwned ;p. BRD BRD COR RDM SAM DRK party ftw! Also I got a few DRK upgrades since then so maybe we can go at it again.

And also~ with a weapon you spent 150M~ or whatever on, I'd hope you would out-parse my 40k IS Weapon that was nice and free :D

Oh and also, I wouldn't mind partying my WAR in the same set up as your SAM, I'm kind of interested in how close/far I'd parse to you in the same set up. BRD BRD COR would make me swing damn fast/hard/moar TP^^, could do War roll, and Samurai roll, it'd be hawt.

[Izzy]

How's the amano now with the little 2H debuff going now? I wouldn't mind playing you at the Mamool staging point where food doesn't get eaten and TP doesn't get pwned ;p. BRD BRD COR RDM SAM DRK party ftw! Also I got a few DRK upgrades since then so maybe we can go at it again.

And also~ with a weapon you spent 150M~ or whatever on, I'd hope you would out-parse my 40k IS Weapon that was nice and free :D

Oh and also, I wouldn't mind partying my WAR in the same set up as your SAM, I'm kind of interested in how close/far I'd parse to you in the same set up. BRD BRD COR would make me swing damn fast/hard/moar TP^^, could do War roll, and Samurai roll, it'd be hawt.

#1 you're still a dick

#2 I didn't upgrade the weapon for the sole purpose of outparsing your adaberk/ridill/wtf ever else you have.

[Tricen]

ITT: People who don't have the money or means to get a finished relic pick at people whom get relics' gear because they're compensating for something else.

DID I GET IT RIGHT!?!?

How close to Monogamy club are you?

3800/7000

I'm poor. I could be one of those fags that gimps themselves to finish, but I'm not willing to do that.

*EDIT* And since they fixed the WS when WotG came out, I haven't been motivated to collect currency until they fix it... Sonomaa should bring it to the SE rep's attention personally! I fear they'll never ever know it's broke because I'm the only one who submitted a bug report Q_Q.

Likelihood of them wanting a club to do 400-500 dmg WS's against dynamis mobs is probably pretty low. I'm most interested in seeing your haste build in action after you finish. I'd suggest a bird camp meripo with SAM/WAR, DRK/SAM, COR/RNG, WHM/NIN, BRD, BRD - with an outside healer to keep us up, just in case Bird camp would preclude off-handing K.club, so maybe a couple pts - one at birds and one on trolls.

I would get crushed so bad . Bovein already destroyed me. Granted I really shouldn't be competing with you or Ridill/Adaberk WAR's lol. Mjollnir would decrease the margin between us, but you both would still beat me by a decent amount.

Oh and my Hexa Strikes still do 400-600 to Dynamis mobs...so I don't think it's really a fix haha. It was just Randgrith that took a hit.

*EDIT* COR actually makes me parse lower . The double attack roll procs on the Kraken Club and I end up with 2 swings instead of 6 or 7.

Should use a diff club offhand with cors... Perg mace or uhhh Pedru wand... Morgenstern... 7eyes for MP and conserveMP for when you /NIN. Flan Smasher looks pretty gewd if you know how to get it. Seawolf cudgel <_<

[baudelaire]

We'll have to hook it up sometime, then. My SAM's seen a few upgrades as well (askar head, most notably), but the project I'm working on right now is my cooking mule so I can t1 Shogun Rice Balls. If Temenos SAM ever drops, I'll have a pretty sweet DA build and would love to try that out vs. a Ridill WAR with Fighter's Roll on. There are some numbers on my blog, but I think it was like, 15% haste and 29% DA in a tp build*.

Post-update, you can definitely notice a difference with the dex/acc nerf, but it's really nothing that can't be overcome with the proper party setup. Throw in a couple brds and a cor and that's all you need to get right back to where you were. With the proper food and songs/rolls, you'll be back at 999 atk and that's that.

I'd love to hear from any amano SAM who's tried out a haste/DA build that included jinpachi & af+1 hands & shogun rice balls. Maybe spin off a separate forum topic on the merits of DA vs. Haste with relic weapons.

*Edit: to clarify, these numbers are in gear-only, and don't take into account the effects of haste/march/fighters

[Robian]

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