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  1. #541
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    Or let Gjallhorn sing 3 songs simultaneously?

    Not that the horn isn't powerful enough already before adding another ludicrous upgrade.

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    Since you guys are talking about the Aegis, just wondering if there's any way of increasing the shield bash damage. I tried AF2 gloves on while doing it, and the damage doesn't increase. Typical shield bash does anwhere from 215-230. With the gloves on it didn't go pass 230. I was thinking of a Knightly Earring, but I can never find one to buy. Anyone know what the Enhances "Shield Bash" effect does on that earring? D:

    Edit: Nice I'm a puppetmaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    All the other relics have a new WS (minus Aegis), would make sense to give the relic horn a new song.
    As long as the new song is 20-30% less effective than another song that bards already get at level 60 then ya it's fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jg
    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    All the other relics have a new WS (minus Aegis), would make sense to give the relic horn a new song.
    As long as the new song is 20-30% less effective than another song that bards already get at level 60 then ya it's fair.
    Should give Shield a WS!!! Or atlease a new animation for the shield bash

    Edit: Whats ErinTribal :X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcknight
    Since you guys are talking about the Aegis, just wondering if there's any way of increasing the shield bash damage. I tried AF2 gloves on while doing it, and the damage doesn't increase. Typical shield bash does anwhere from 215-230. With the gloves on it didn't go pass 230. I was thinking of a Knightly Earring, but I can never find one to buy. Anyone know what the Enhances "Shield Bash" effect does on that earring? D:

    Edit: Nice I'm a puppetmaster.
    Hmm, Knightly earring is obtained through Divine Might Quest fight vs the 5 AA. So that's why you can't buy it.

    JP

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    Horn is good no doubt, but personally I just find it kind of disappointing in the regard that it's really just a Ballad instrument and an inventory saver. It doesn't really do anything else special, especially since the returns of stacking wind/singing skill are so incredibly low.

    As for Shield Bash, I'm not certain but maybe Shield Skill effects it in certain tiers? I think I remember reading that Weapon Bash damage worked that way, where the level of your skill determined the damage past a floor. So like, just as a rough example with made up numbers, every 10 levels of skill past 100 with the weapon adds 1 damage from a floor of 5 or so. Or something like that.

  7. #547
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syncere
    Quote Originally Posted by Jg
    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    All the other relics have a new WS (minus Aegis), would make sense to give the relic horn a new song.
    As long as the new song is 20-30% less effective than another song that bards already get at level 60 then ya it's fair.
    Should give Shield a WS!!! Or atlease a new animation for the shield bash

    Edit: Whats ErinTribal :X
    /em cue in Lordwafik

    She would be considered an opposite to him, when you think "good player or pimp" she is considered opposite...but I digress, gg Waf, tell it how it is, lol.

    I'll be more vague..some have told me (I agree btw), she was the begining of the end of an era of a once great and fucking fun ls on Asura..the day she was given a pearl...doomed that shell, lol...oh well, the memories of what was

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    I would like to see an update version of this list with striked out names for players that have quit. Should look a C- essay graded by that jackass english teacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP_Ikari
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcknight
    Since you guys are talking about the Aegis, just wondering if there's any way of increasing the shield bash damage. I tried AF2 gloves on while doing it, and the damage doesn't increase. Typical shield bash does anwhere from 215-230. With the gloves on it didn't go pass 230. I was thinking of a Knightly Earring, but I can never find one to buy. Anyone know what the Enhances "Shield Bash" effect does on that earring? D:

    Edit: Nice I'm a puppetmaster.
    Hmm, Knightly earring is obtained through Divine Might Quest fight vs the 5 AA. So that's why you can't buy it.

    JP
    Knight's earring is obtained through DM. Knightly earring is buyable.

  10. #550
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    That reminds me, has anyone tested the effects of "All Songs +2" on Foe Sirvente and Adventurer's Dirge? I never hear anyone mention that, and I always hear people say that every other song has an instrument that gives Song+2, but for the case of the meritable songs, that's not true. So with proper testing / results it could turn out this is another area where Gjallarhorn shines.

    Edit: Why the fuck does my title say "Relic Shield" lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Or let Gjallhorn sing 3 songs simultaneously?

    Not that the horn isn't powerful enough already before adding another ludicrous upgrade.
    How would that even work lol

    Could you select 3 songs prior to playing your song(s)? Would they allow a separate menu/macro set for you to set song combos, or a "playlist" lol?

    Songs have different casting times, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by othellojr
    Quote Originally Posted by Syncere
    Quote Originally Posted by Jg
    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    All the other relics have a new WS (minus Aegis), would make sense to give the relic horn a new song.
    As long as the new song is 20-30% less effective than another song that bards already get at level 60 then ya it's fair.
    Should give Shield a WS!!! Or atlease a new animation for the shield bash

    Edit: Whats ErinTribal :X
    /em cue in Lordwafik

    She would be considered an opposite to him, when you think "good player or pimp" she is considered opposite...but I digress, gg Waf, tell it how it is, lol.

    I'll be more vague..some have told me (I agree btw), she was the begining of the end of an era of a once great and fucking fun ls on Asura..the day she was given a pearl...doomed that shell, lol...oh well, the memories of what was
    She had been in Harpers once a long time ago... almost all of asura has been at one time it seems

  13. #553
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Or let Gjallhorn sing 3 songs simultaneously?

    Not that the horn isn't powerful enough already before adding another ludicrous upgrade.
    How would that even work lol

    Could you select 3 songs prior to playing your song(s)? Would they allow a separate menu/macro set for you to set song combos, or a "playlist" lol?

    Songs have different casting times, etc

    Gonna go out on a limb, but I think he means having more than 2 songs (3 in this case) active at once. Not actually casting them simultaneously.

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    Maybe, i just took what he posted at face value.


    edit: Ive always wondered how a "Doublecast" could/would be implemented and if would even be worth it since you change gear depending on which spell you cast. I think when i read auriks post that stuck out to me.

    Doublecast itself goes back to FF9 and 10 (maybe even further back) when Vivi and Lulu were able to learn it.

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    It's cool, let the Gbard stick a third song on everyone. Just make sure it's both flashy and ineffective

    p.s. never underestimate the ability to save inventory!

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    i'm of the Ramuh Server my name is Hacrivian

    You can add a Spharai --> Kohinata (JP GUY)

    and an Annihilator --> Sayaiman (friend of CAE)

    Soon we completing Relic Shield too^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    Maybe, i just took what he posted at face value.


    edit: Ive always wondered how a "Doublecast" could/would be implemented and if would even be worth it since you change gear depending on which spell you cast. I think when i read auriks post that stuck out to me.

    Doublecast itself goes back to FF9 and 10 (maybe even further back) when Vivi and Lulu were able to learn it.
    FF5 has Doublecast with the max'd RDM skill I believe, was 999 ABP lol

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    I no longer wish to maintain this list. I will be copying the list over to KI and from there to FFXIclopedia, so if anybody else is interested, they can update here: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Categor...:Relic_Weapons I know there's a newbie forum now, but references to BG forums will be removed nonetheless.

  19. #559
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    Ashiya just completed her bow on Fenrir

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