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  1. #6741
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic
    I've never been really into the calculations and whatnot... so, does this number include DRG's Accuracy Bonus job trait?
    No, it doesn't count anything from traits or JA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I don't TP in nearly that much accuracy and I always cap.
    Odds are you have an acc ability/trait on your job.
    Quote Originally Posted by tyven
    68 base dex + 2h + capped merits + mad/min +25acc +25dex from gear = capped acc on birds.
    25 DEX is 18.75 acc, Madrigal caps at +32 (?) acc without merits.

    18.75 + 32 + 25 = 75.75

    Which as I said, is easily enough to cap.

    To be a little more specific, you can hit the cap at about +60 acc with the numbers I mentioned earlier, but doing it consistently with no leeway is more like the range I mentioned before.

  2. #6742
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Rukenshin
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I don't TP in nearly that much accuracy and I always cap.
    Odds are you have an acc ability/trait on your job.
    I'm referring to DRK/SAM, so the only thing I can think of is Hasso, and it's only up about 75% of the time because I switch out a lot. It's +10 accuracy as a sub, right?

    My gear (with accuracy or DEX):

    Algol (269 + 16 + 7 skill) = 291 skill
    Fire Bomblet (+6 Accuracy)
    Ace's Helm (+7 Accuracy)
    Homam hands (+4 Accuracy)
    Ecphoria/Ulthalam's (+8 Accuracy)
    Abyss Cape (+7 Accuracy)
    Warwolf Belt (+5 DEX, no Swift, 0/7)
    Homam legs (+3 Accuracy)
    Homam feet (+6 Accuracy)

    That's a total of 291 skill, +41/51 accuracy (depending on if Hasso is up) and +5 DEX, yet I still hit 93-96% every time I parse.

    If I use Scythe (which I don't have merited) I hover between 89-92% accuracy.

    This is with cheap attack food and 2x BRD using double March, double Minuet (because fuck Madrigal).

  3. #6743
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    iirc hasso is +10% acc +10% haste from 35-75 for sam, the only thing that changes is the str (not 100% sure about the acc)

  4. #6744
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    10 Acc, not 10%

  5. #6745
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Ok, 10acc 10% haste str based on level. The only thing that changes is the str.

  6. #6746
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Quote Originally Posted by Rukenshin
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I don't TP in nearly that much accuracy and I always cap.
    Odds are you have an acc ability/trait on your job.
    I'm referring to DRK/SAM, so the only thing I can think of is Hasso
    It's about 54 acc with Hasso on, only 6 acc short of what I said is enough to average close enough to the acc cap, and 6 isn't enough to put you out of reach of it. Around 15 or so would.

    The numbers I said earlier were also for 95%+, not a range of 92-95%. Which is what you're expected to get having slightly lower amounts of acc.

  7. #6747
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    I cap regularly at Colibri on Dragoon with:

    299 skill
    62 Base Dex +12
    +38 accuracy
    +22 in Job traits.
    No Hasso.

    So looking at +60 accuracy and only +9 acc from Dex (69 total accuracy, but because I'm 6 DEX short of the assumed base, it's closer to 65) which meets Ruke's estimates.

    I'm assuming people are still making reference to the overkill on the Dragoon with Gungnir? Clearly I don't have a relic, but even the gear the guy has alone without the relic is enough to cap. Blah blah City gear, but who doesn't walk around in Ares/Askar Body if they have Homam? Haven't met one yet. The guy needs to upgrade his body or put it on Mannequin.

  8. #6748
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    I do. I walk around in homam/w.legs because it's red and matches. Plus it's my DRG/WHM "have enough mp to cast reraise while weakened" gear.

    But.. that's about all I wear it for.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    So, I heard Wopa got Mandau in a week but dunno if it's true.

  10. #6750
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    So, I heard Wopa got Mandau in a week but dunno if it's true.
    Probably for his RDM............................................... .......................

  11. #6751
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by HARRRRR
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    So, I heard Wopa got Mandau in a week but dunno if it's true.
    Probably for his RDM............................................... .......................
    It's for his BRD. He'll soon enough be so awesome he doesn't have to wait for the goblin to finish doing his thing and he'll just go stage 1-5 in 20mins.

  12. #6752
    If you stopped to actually learn something you might not post these uninformed posts.
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    BRD/THF in Heca+1, self Etudes and Mercy Stroke potent?

  13. #6753
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Zorik
    Jamesfk - Aegis - Midgardsormr

    http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...3-29-01-99.jpg

    Grats!
    he could use about 50-60 more acc

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by dyluck
    Quote Originally Posted by Zorik
    Jamesfk - Aegis - Midgardsormr

    http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...3-29-01-99.jpg

    Grats!
    he could use about 50-60 more acc

    I lold.

  15. #6755
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic
    I've never been really into the calculations and whatnot... so, does this number include DRG's Accuracy Bonus job trait?
    No, it doesn't count anything from traits or JA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I don't TP in nearly that much accuracy and I always cap.
    Odds are you have an acc ability/trait on your job.
    Quote Originally Posted by tyven
    68 base dex + 2h + capped merits + mad/min +25acc +25dex from gear = capped acc on birds.
    25 DEX is 18.75 acc, Madrigal caps at +32 (?) acc without merits.

    18.75 + 32 + 25 = 75.75

    Which as I said, is easily enough to cap.

    To be a little more specific, you can hit the cap at about +60 acc with the numbers I mentioned earlier, but doing it consistently with no leeway is more like the range I mentioned before.
    don't forget the evasion down from drg polearms and Bravuras that could also have a factor in the entire pts accuracy

  16. #6756
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    So, I heard Wopa got Mandau in a week but dunno if it's true.
    Not quite.
    0/8 on Attestation as of last weekend, almost done with currencies though.
    Wow news travels fast all the way to Hades Starr? lol


  17. #6757
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Heck, it's old news by the time it hits BG now

    Shitty Attestation luck bud, I'm only 0/2 so far, don't wanna be any more D:

  18. #6758
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by wop
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    So, I heard Wopa got Mandau in a week but dunno if it's true.
    Not quite.
    0/8 on Attestation as of last weekend, almost done with currencies though.
    Wow news travels fast all the way to Hades Starr? lol

    Izildur messaged me lol.

  19. #6759
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Izzys new <3 is COR atm, we were chatting on MSN for ages talking about random setups and shit, idk I'm still not convinced, but he says it's shit-hot.

    Especially for merit ptys set up right.

    Suppose when it comes to ToAU/WotG jobs I'm still completely ignorant >.>

  20. #6760
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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by HARRRRR
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    So, I heard Wopa got Mandau in a week but dunno if it's true.
    Probably for his RDM............................................... .......................
    he said he's getting Excalibur next week to duel wield

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