Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

[Tricen]

What happened to Empyreal <_<?

[DAKPluto]

What happened to Empyreal <_<?

Resurgance/Empyreal broke up approx a month ago. Some of their members were absorbed into Whirling Wind.

[Neosutra]

Getting 30m isnt really hard, 2 days after we finished Dils Excalibur we already had 30m saved up for the next relic. Sold a crimson body and nlegs and some little stuff. Bigger problem here is to buy the currency without raising the price

Who the HELL pays that much for wyrmal body and nlegs Q.Q.
But regardless, you guys should upgrade hammer next, just for the hell of it.

[Tricen]

What happened to Empyreal <_<?

Resurgance/Empyreal broke up approx a month ago. Some of their members were absorbed into Whirling Wind.

Why'd they break O-o

[DAKPluto]

Not sure the full reasons. I know there had been a few leadership conflicts/issues, but I think it was more than that.

[Eanae]

Not sure the full reasons. I know there had been a few leadership conflicts/issues, but I think it was more than that.

Pretty much the shell had been in a slow downward spyral since Resurgence. A major fight broke out when a sackholder took Koga Tekko for her mule over a few other Ninja's, and it blew out of proportion. Eventually backstabbing, and turning on people behind their backs became a popular thing to do. One sackholder left for another server during this entire mess, leaving only Therin while Arethal was on break visiting her parents. When she got back and the trouble makers were kicked, a bunch of people left along with them and joined the loot whore sackholder's new linkshell, who conveniently quit when she got her Novio and Dalmatica. From there, the sackholders had major disagreements on the direction and leadership of the shell, leading the shellholder to leave, and us to repearl to Empyreal. Sackholder disagreements were still frequent, and even with our boosted claim rate, it wasn't enough to keep people happy, and shortly after Therin got his Hauteclaire, he decided he had enough of the bullshit of constant arguments and left leaving one sackholder. We were pretty much forced to draw out of the HNM scene from there, only claiming one KB and maybe a Khim or two after that point. So naturally, people started leaving. Eventually I got sick of wiping to things like Kirin, and called it quits to play WoW, and the other main tank/sackholder quit to persue his real life leaving only one sack yet again. From there, things were being canceled from lack of tanks, and they decided to finally call it quits.

This has been History of Resurgence 101 with Eanae.

[Vodou]

Are Excellence relics fully funded like Mercury, or is everyone in your LS just rich? <_>

Our rule is any relic you can get to stage4 will be completed by the linkshell if you are in the linkshell for at least 6 months and have high attendance. If you are a BLM with lv4 staff, we will complete it, it takes us like 2 weeks no big deal.

Ah, okay. That's pretty fair then, not really what I expected.

*EDIT* That came off differently than I intended. I didn't mean it to sound negative, I just expected that you guys did it similar to other shells in that you would only upgrade "useful" relics for long-standing members and not upgrade someone's Gungnir or Ragnarok or whatever, if they wanted.

What's wrong with upgrading any relic if we can do it every 2 weeks? We are currently upgrading a relic from stage4 to 5 in about 2 weeks, every 2-3 weeks. We have an Aegis currently collecting coins for Stage5, an Apocalypse @1500 away from Stage4 which will go after the Aegis, then a Mandau which is @2500 which will go after the Apoc, and then a Ghorn, and so on. The linkshell provides countless ways to make money from helping camp HNM, helping find buyers for things we don't need, and before we started farming relics we distributed the fund in 5mil chunks to people who wanted it over items. This way more people can get relics and if one of them happens to turn into a douche bag and leaves, we don't have to blame ourselves for choosing them for a relic, it's an unbiased system, people rarely leave this linkshell, but when one of our fully funded Aegis did, it hurt a lot.

Assuming 24 runs a day (in the big "six" areas) which is my guess only cause its my post and guessing 300 currency per run, you get enoough to fund 5.5 relics every 2 weeks. You can get more or less if you assume more or less runs, more or less success in the runs, etc.

All this says is one LS is consuming around 20% of all the currency on the server.

Possible is all this says although my econ background does not understand how this does not send currency prices rocketing since others are earning gil and trying to buy currency too.

Anyway, there it is.

[Niki]

Getting 30m isnt really hard, 2 days after we finished Dils Excalibur we already had 30m saved up for the next relic. Sold a crimson body and nlegs and some little stuff. Bigger problem here is to buy the currency without raising the price

Who the HELL pays that much for wyrmal body and nlegs Q.Q.
But regardless, you guys should upgrade hammer next, just for the hell of it.

Sold another nlegs today and various other stuff, got half of the money for the next relic now. But hammer, no thanks. Sorry Izzy, but DD whm..no, just no >_> Thats not tempting me at all.

[skurlover]

Are Excellence relics fully funded like Mercury, or is everyone in your LS just rich? <_>

Our rule is any relic you can get to stage4 will be completed by the linkshell if you are in the linkshell for at least 6 months and have high attendance. If you are a BLM with lv4 staff, we will complete it, it takes us like 2 weeks no big deal.

Ah, okay. That's pretty fair then, not really what I expected.

*EDIT* That came off differently than I intended. I didn't mean it to sound negative, I just expected that you guys did it similar to other shells in that you would only upgrade "useful" relics for long-standing members and not upgrade someone's Gungnir or Ragnarok or whatever, if they wanted.

What's wrong with upgrading any relic if we can do it every 2 weeks? We are currently upgrading a relic from stage4 to 5 in about 2 weeks, every 2-3 weeks. We have an Aegis currently collecting coins for Stage5, an Apocalypse @1500 away from Stage4 which will go after the Aegis, then a Mandau which is @2500 which will go after the Apoc, and then a Ghorn, and so on. The linkshell provides countless ways to make money from helping camp HNM, helping find buyers for things we don't need, and before we started farming relics we distributed the fund in 5mil chunks to people who wanted it over items. This way more people can get relics and if one of them happens to turn into a douche bag and leaves, we don't have to blame ourselves for choosing them for a relic, it's an unbiased system, people rarely leave this linkshell, but when one of our fully funded Aegis did, it hurt a lot.

Assuming 24 runs a day (in the big "six" areas) which is my guess only cause its my post and guessing 300 currency per run, you get enoough to fund 5.5 relics every 2 weeks. You can get more or less if you assume more or less runs, more or less success in the runs, etc.

All this says is one LS is consuming around 20% of all the currency on the server.

Possible is all this says although my econ background does not understand how this does not send currency prices rocketing since others are earning gil and trying to buy currency too.

Anyway, there it is.

You really think that every zone is full 14 hours out of 24 every day? With an average of 30 people per zone per day, you would need 2520 people during dynamis twice a week without missing runs. You really think your 24 runs a day is correct?

[Vodou]

[quote=skurlover]

Are Excellence relics fully funded like Mercury, or is everyone in your LS just rich? <_>

Our rule is any relic you can get to stage4 will be completed by the linkshell if you are in the linkshell for at least 6 months and have high attendance. If you are a BLM with lv4 staff, we will complete it, it takes us like 2 weeks no big deal.

Ah, okay. That's pretty fair then, not really what I expected.

*EDIT* That came off differently than I intended. I didn't mean it to sound negative, I just expected that you guys did it similar to other shells in that you would only upgrade "useful" relics for long-standing members and not upgrade someone's Gungnir or Ragnarok or whatever, if they wanted.

What's wrong with upgrading any relic if we can do it every 2 weeks? We are currently upgrading a relic from stage4 to 5 in about 2 weeks, every 2-3 weeks. We have an Aegis currently collecting coins for Stage5, an Apocalypse @1500 away from Stage4 which will go after the Aegis, then a Mandau which is @2500 which will go after the Apoc, and then a Ghorn, and so on. The linkshell provides countless ways to make money from helping camp HNM, helping find buyers for things we don't need, and before we started farming relics we distributed the fund in 5mil chunks to people who wanted it over items. This way more people can get relics and if one of them happens to turn into a douche bag and leaves, we don't have to blame ourselves for choosing them for a relic, it's an unbiased system, people rarely leave this linkshell, but when one of our fully funded Aegis did, it hurt a lot.

Assuming 24 runs a day (in the big "six" areas) which is my guess only cause its my post and guessing 300 currency per run, you get enoough to fund 5.5 relics every 2 weeks. You can get more or less if you assume more or less runs, more or less success in the runs, etc.

All this says is one LS is consuming around 20% of all the currency on the server.

Possible is all this says although my econ background does not understand how this does not send currency prices rocketing since others are earning gil and trying to buy currency too.

Anyway, there it is.

You really think that every zone is full 14 hours out of 24 every day? With an average of 30 people per zone per day, you would need 2520 people during dynamis twice a week without missing runs. You really think your 24 runs a day is correct?[/quote:30pwqwlu]


I throw out 24 as a point of reference since it avoids the debate over whether it would be a significant % of the total server currency if there were enough runs. Certainly 24 seems pretty high, but anyone can adjust the number to their own liking. Lets day its 16. Then the LS (and its members) are consuming 27% of the currency on the server.

So lets say at 16 runs per day, that 50% of all the currency is being kept by the original runners and that 50% is going up for sale. Then that means that 54% of all the "available" currency is being consumed by one shell ( the rest not being available.) Assuming the LS does its own runs and gets 2,000 currency total, then it buys 16,000 currency of the 31,600 currency that is available for sale. (16 runs a day x 14 days x 300 currency x 50% for sale less its own currency runs of 2,000).

Thats 50.6% of all available currency. Without going into the issue in depth, I just conjecture this seems odd without driving the prices up substantially.

[Rya]

So lets say at 16 runs per day.

Am i reading that correctly in thinking that you mean 16 Dynamis runs per day ??, Phoenix's English speaking Dynamis shells ammount to around 22 runs a week (that presuming that they all use the Dbums callendar, which i think most if not all do)... double that figure for the jp guys and your looking at around 44 runs per week - 6/7 runs per day.

I know that you used 24 and 16 as estimates but 6-7 is more realistic reflection of how many runs are done a day.

[#686578]

So lets say at 16 runs per day.

Am i reading that correctly in thinking that you mean 16 Dynamis runs per day ??, Phoenix's English speaking Dynamis shells ammount to around 22 runs a week (that presuming that they all use the Dbums callendar, which i think most if not all do)... double that figure for the jp guys and your looking at around 44 runs per week - 6/7 runs per day.

I know that you used 24 and 16 as estimates but 6-7 is more realistic reflection of how many runs are done a day.

"Pheonix", "English" these two words are things that hamper your ability to be taken seriously.

[Izzy]

So lets say at 16 runs per day.

Am i reading that correctly in thinking that you mean 16 Dynamis runs per day ??, Phoenix's English speaking Dynamis shells ammount to around 22 runs a week (that presuming that they all use the Dbums callendar, which i think most if not all do)... double that figure for the jp guys and your looking at around 44 runs per week - 6/7 runs per day.

I know that you used 24 and 16 as estimates but 6-7 is more realistic reflection of how many runs are done a day.

"Pheonix", "English" these two words are things that hamper your ability to be taken seriously.

Phoenix was spelled right Q_Q

[layoneil]

Phoenix was spelled right Q_Q

i don't think he was talking about the spelling.

[evilpaul]

Ah ok good =)
Thank you, our linkshell is run on an unbiased system (OMFG THEY EXIST?!) which is why we never have loot drama, and it is why we can provide such a service to all members. Since I am rather free this summer, I am thinking of tweaking our "DKP" (not really DKP at all, just based off the concept) script that I made and releasing it for public use for other linkshells, because as long as you follow its rules, your linkshell will be happy as pie. All of its features and "rules" are based off nearly 4 years of end-game observation.

<3 pie.

[#686578]

Phoenix was spelled right Q_Q

i don't think he was talking about the spelling.

I wasn't, but I did spell Phoenix wrong on accident.

[Izzy]

Phoenix was spelled right Q_Q

i don't think he was talking about the spelling.

I wasn't, but I did spell Phoenix wrong on accident.

What's wrong with my server ?

[Siralin]

Can we get some more relic pics and less arguing? Please?

[#686578]

Phoenix was spelled right Q_Q

i don't think he was talking about the spelling.

I wasn't, but I did spell Phoenix wrong on accident.

What's wrong with my server ?

You cant base estimates off of one server and one time zone.

[Ramzii]

[quote=#686578]

Phoenix was spelled right Q_Q

i don't think he was talking about the spelling.

I wasn't, but I did spell Phoenix wrong on accident.

What's wrong with my server ?

You cant base estimates off of one server and one time zone.[/quote:1b26fce2]

pretty much. On Midgard there used to be atleast 14+ runs a day of dynamis before I left