Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

[Crizto]

That's a winning bazaar comment

[Ansems]

@AnsemGeni

I dont want to ruin your fun, but the linkshell you are currently in wiped to Kirin aswell when they tried to TP burn it. They had 7 or 8 relics at that point. And i wouldnt say that makes them a shitty linkshell. Shit happens, get over it.

What Linkshell are you talking about?

If you're talking about poisoned, I'm not with them anymore. They are a bunch of noobs with relics tho. I'm mage only and I can properly gear pld than a Aegis pld in poisoned, which is sad to say cause I know jackshit about other jobs that aren't mage.

[Nathlas]

A fact? Are you fucking serious? I'm sorry but any LS that Stan runs is a fail LS just cause of the person he is and how stupid the members are. Just cause they have relics dont mean they are good players. (cue excellence wiping to kirin.jpg)~ I have to dig this out just to show you how Stan fails in many many ways.

• Stanislav was the leader of Excellence on Hades.
  Stanislav has stolen their linkshell bank in the past.
  Stanislav has RMTed his character in the past.
  Despite all this, Stanislav is once again the leader of Excellence.
  Stanislav buys gil.
  Stanislav owes a lot of people a lot of money.
  Stanislav has 3 relics; Aegis, Excalibur, and Apocalypse.
  Stanislav has a Maat's Cap.

• Excellence blames other linkshells for ruining Hades endgame.
  Excellence is the original cause for ruining Hades' endgame.
  Excellence openly bots and cheats.
  Half of Excellence split and moved to a different server.
  Excellence views themselves as the greatest linkshell not only on Hades, but in the game ever.
  Excellence has a one-relic minimum to join.

Credit to Talint

My 2 cents on this thread: Absolutely no one has attempted to dispute bolded lines. No self-respecting LS would let this kind of player in(or back in) the shell(or back as a leader of said shell) and no self-respecting player would want to be in a LS that so clearly has no morals.
- Silvara

Ansemx you're an idiot, always talking shit about stuff you have no idea about. I'm glad I kicked you out of my LS and you ended up leaving servers.

[Yarko]

Just as an aside: that "capped VE" you're talking about, is, as Kaeko said, something a Pld/No sub could do.

CE is what makes the difference, and whichever sub lets you pump out the most CE, while at the same time providing any combination of: (Mitigation, VE spam, Utility abilities/spells) is going to rock when abused properly.

Oh funny, look what I said 3-4 posts ago

Any good tank caps VE after 5 minutes into the fight at most. At that point you have to work more on CE to keep as much hate as possible.

To which you cleverly answered with:

You get blind from /Nin? (KURAYAMI: ICHI GO!)
You cap VE?

and all the zomg what is he saying crap.
You've now learned that yes, VE caps and it's the easiest of the two to bring to the cap. Congratulations!
Next time you "try to be useful" as you said, make sure you know what you're talking about and understand the poster's point.

Back to the Stan/Claustrum talking I guess.

[Demosthenes11]

Ansemx you're an idiot, always talking shit about stuff you have no idea about. I'm glad I kicked you out of my LS and you ended up leaving servers.

"I DON'T LIKE YOU AND I NEED THE WORLD TO KNOW"
your comment was like a girl that just accidentally bumped into her ex-boyfriend.
"I'm doing great, you're still a dick, I'm glad we broke up!"

[Ansems]

"I DON'T LIKE YOU AND I NEED THE WORLD TO KNOW"
your comment was like a girl that just accidentally bumped into her ex-boyfriend.
"I'm doing great, you're still a dick, I'm glad we broke up!"

It's an inside joke, don't get excited.

[Fennec]

Could anyone give me a realistic estimation on how much damage Metatron Torment is capable of on HNM(Fafnir, KB, Khimaira, Tiamat, Cerberus, etc.)? I can't find any tests and it's disheartening realizing how little information there is in regard to Bravura.

Thank you in advance.

[Therin]

Its damage is pretty similar to a 300% Steel Cyclone except the modifier is 60% STR instead of 50% STR / 50% VIT. I've seen it do 2500-3000 to lower defense mobs like KB, not sure how it would fair on something with high defense like Tiamat.

I'd guess it's reasonable to say that MT should do slightly less than a fully buffed Steel Cyclone, but remember that you don't need to charge to 300% every time.

[Fennec]

Thanks, Therin. That's exactly what I expected considering it's high strength modifier and multiplier. So, without Sneak Attack would you think I can expect a steady 600-800 on things comparable to Fafnir? At the current rate I'm going I should be able to finish within a little under a year.

I'm just kinda bummed that I'm having trouble comparing to one of the better DDs in my linkshell, a Samurai. I'm hoping with a powerful one hit weapon skill I can improve my parse on higher level things, considering that's what makes SAM so powerful.

[Rhealana]

My Nyzul runs sometimes consists of a Bravura WAR, 1-2 decked out but non-Amano SAMs, and a Gungnir DRG (me). The WAR has no issues taking and holding hate from sheer damage output. Incidentally he's a taru, so he's at a slight disadvantage stat-wise for Metatron Torment.

A different Bravura WAR in my linkshell pretty much ends up tanking everything in Einherjar, including the bosses.. until he dies. Then either me and/or the Mandau THF dies shortly after... depending on whether the THF wants to save me with Accomplice or not... *stares@Rai*

[Guitarman]

You gotta remember, Overwhelm is pretty damn broken. No shame losing to a sam if that sam is geared well.

Speaking of which; question that's been gnawing at me. Can a SAM use namas arrow without having to /rng?

[Kaita]

You gotta remember, Overwhelm is pretty damn broken. No shame losing to a sam if that sam is geared well.

Speaking of which; question that's been gnawing at me. Can a SAM use namas arrow without having to /rng?

Yes.

[Colenzo]

You gotta remember, Overwhelm is pretty damn broken. No shame losing to a sam if that sam is geared well.

Speaking of which; question that's been gnawing at me. Can a SAM use namas arrow without having to /rng?

yes

[Naramaska]

My Nyzul runs sometimes consists of a Bravura WAR, 1-2 decked out but non-Amano SAMs, and a Gungnir DRG (me). The WAR has no issues taking and holding hate from sheer damage output. Incidentally he's a taru, so he's at a slight disadvantage stat-wise for Metatron Torment.

A different Bravura WAR in my linkshell pretty much ends up tanking everything in Einherjar, including the bosses.. until he dies. Then either me and/or the Mandau THF dies shortly after... depending on whether the THF wants to save me with Accomplice or not... *stares@Rai*

Wait.


You mean we arn't the only 2x Bravura Taru/Elf LS around?

Its damage is pretty similar to a 300% Steel Cyclone except the modifier is 60% STR instead of 50% STR / 50% VIT. I've seen it do 2500-3000 to lower defense mobs like KB, not sure how it would fair on something with high defense like Tiamat.

I'd guess it's reasonable to say that MT should do slightly less than a fully buffed Steel Cyclone, but remember that you don't need to charge to 300% every time.

Yeah; seems to top out around 2200-2500 for most things. Highest I've ever seen out of it was 2500ish, but I wouldn't doubt more is possible with HQ gear. Your average on HNM isn't going to be spectacular without BRD support though--crits on RR make it far too juicy. MT still has its place though thanks to the -DEF proc...just don't upgrade the weapon thinking MT is the be-all-end-all WS for WAR, or you'll wind up disappointing yourself.

[Fennec]

Thing is, I think I've nearly pushed my Raging Rush to the point where it can't be anymore consistent. My current high on Fafnir is 1,596. I haven't seen a SAM hit that high since the initial relic weapon boost, yet I'm hard pressed to be the top DD in my shell with such an overpowered job around. Reason being, they're able to drop consistent and powerful WS even though they don't peak like Raging Rush does. I'm hoping Metatron Torment will be the optimal WS to drop at 100% for repeatedly high numbers.

[Severance]

It's cute how people who hate on Hades endgame are people who have never even played in Hades endgame. Why do you comment on something that doesn't effect you? Scrubs.

[Fridell]

It's cute how people who hate on Hades endgame are people who have never even played in Hades endgame. Why do you comment on something that doesn't effect you? Scrubs.

This.

Also, despite what many says about Excellence, or what they have done in the past (botting etc etc, just like ALL Linkshells) they sure dont cause problems and drama nowdays.
Im not in Ex or not defending Ex in any way, but I like things that is fair, and bashing Ex like back in 2004 / 2005 is just stupid.
To me they sure have better mentality then most Linkshells around. Get the fuck over bashing shit you dont know shit about.

[Starr]

Could anyone give me a realistic estimation on how much damage Metatron Torment is capable of on HNM(Fafnir, KB, Khimaira, Tiamat, Cerberus, etc.)? I can't find any tests and it's disheartening realizing how little information there is in regard to Bravura.

Thank you in advance.

When Trinsie on Hades got Bruvara, like one of the first ever possibly, she did 0 to Kirin on her first WS but that was before 2 hand buff etc.

[schlomo]

Hey Stan!! You have my Dusk Gloves+1 fucking Vic.

[jaryk]

It's cute how people who hate on Hades endgame are people who have never even played in Hades endgame. Why do you comment on something that doesn't effect you? Scrubs.

This is a retarded generalization and you should kill yourself. Every single day of your life I imagine you have commented on something that doesn't affect you, including the majority of posts that you and others make on these forums. While Hitler never directly affected me, nor did 9/11 I still have opinions and perspectives on them and I'm sure many others do as well. People can not like a person on a video game because he's a giant douche and fucks his mom for money to buy gil.