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  1. #841
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    From wiki:
    93 Shields
    63 Swords
    58 Daggers
    58 Katanas
    56 Instruments
    30 Guns
    30 H2H

    Swords are pretty much blah tho, so expect their rank to slip more. No surprise that the "tank" relics (katana which is marginal, sword which sucks, and shield which is awesome) are at the top, since tanks are so pampered in this game.

  2. #842
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    Excalibur - 63
    Kikoku - 58
    Amanomurakumo - 29

    http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/466bde62eb.jpg

  3. #843
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    From wiki:
    93 Shields
    63 Swords
    58 Daggers
    58 Katanas
    56 Instruments
    30 Guns
    30 H2H

    Swords are pretty much blah tho, so expect their rank to slip more. No surprise that the "tank" relics (katana which is marginal, sword which sucks, and shield which is awesome) are at the top, since tanks are so pampered in this game.
    Small Update:
    95 Shields
    63 Daggers
    63 Swords
    58 Katanas
    57 Instruments
    31 H2H
    30 Guns
    29 Great Katanas

    Couple Small Notes:
    Diabolos has now surpassed Ragnarok as the server with the most known relics. Asura is still last (but in a tie now ). Seems like half of those come from BG regulars.

  4. #844
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    Sword had an early head start - a decent # of people began upgrading it before the shield existed, and Gjallarhorn was originally considered worthless because the All Songs +2 wasn't believed to give 2 mp/tick per Ballad until I think someone in IRON? got stage 4.

  5. #845
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    Asura has:
    1 JP relic (hitosi-club)
    1 other Asian relic (zamusww-gkt, sold account...)
    7 EN relics (and soon an 8th, I think a bow is just a loan away from done)

    Ironically, both of the non-EN relics got their xarc fragments through an EN shell after they failed several times to kill it.

    What about Fairy and Siren (the other laggard servers)? Are they mostly EN relics as well?

  6. #846
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    Most of the relics I know of on Fairy are EN too.

  7. #847
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    That's interesting, on Pandemonium we just got 2 NA relic vs. 13JP relics. We phail = ='

  8. #848
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    More than a page late, but grats to Archain. Can't say I'm not curious about what would've happened if some alternate-reality Archain got Gungnir for his DRG though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aers
    Most of the relics I know of on Fairy are EN too.
    ^

  10. #850
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    That's why the numbers were brought into question. People brought up nin sub, sushi, and lack of bard as being the reason to average that low, like it would have to be all 3 at once.
    Except that it wasn't all 3 of those at once. We had a BRD, both were eating meat, and only one was /NIN. Then I posted a link to the wiki which explained that Bugards have a Defense Boost move, which seems like a plausible explanation. But then again I can't say for sure, maybe Amemit, 0STR merits, and no Kick attack merits makes a 40% difference in damage over someone with Forager/Cerb, 5STR, and capped Kick

  11. #851
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    Interesting parse there but the 66% accuracy of the MNK means that maybe eating meat was not the most efficent decision, unless that accuracy is the norm (feel free to correct me if I am wrong).
    When I use meat in alot of camps, I don't break 75% acc (esp in ToaU camps) but my damage is increased, some people don't understand you don't need near 90% acc if you're not hitting really hard. If you hit hard, you can dip into lower accuracy np.

    I've only gone to 1 camp post my complete accuracy makeover, and twice i've parsed 80% accuracy at Greater Colibri camp. The difference maker is I don't swap into haste gear unless I just used feint. Maybe if I get more homam I will, since that's Haste + Acc combined. I'm talking about +68 accuracy btw, not +20 or anything, it's giant.

    Non ToaU camps don't need that much acc at all, like Demons in Xarca I get away with using haste gear np np without my acc dipping horribly low, and yes meat all the way for me, I'm stubborn.

  12. #852
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    Pretty sure it hasn't been said. But Napo has Aegis on Fenrir. Think that's the 3rd shield here, all JP.

  13. #853
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    Most of the relics I know of on Fairy are EN too.
    EN
    Chiz - Mandau
    Dracu - Aegis
    Swieter - Spharai
    Milkmandan - Gjallahorn
    Astatine - Mandau
    Demyn - Yoichinoyumi

    JP

    Fuzy - Amano
    Some random moron - Apocalypse

    I'm not sure if Annatar finished his Mandau or not yet.

  14. #854
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    Silvergun's the random JP, and dont forget the guttler >_>

  15. #855
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    Quote Originally Posted by senoska
    Quote Originally Posted by aers
    Most of the relics I know of on Fairy are EN too.
    ^
    Except for Bikk's Excal, there's only 1 NA relic on Bahamut which is less then one month old.

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    Isn't Silvergun the DRK with Apocalypse with a gimp WAR sub (or was that THF)?

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    war31

  18. #858
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    Hades - Winterfeldt/Nathlas Shield

    2 more on the way from Ex. Just need paper from Xacabard.

    Amie - Dagger
    Tidel - Great Axe

    Too much work to update on Wiki for me.

  19. #859
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    Kalia, you must have been browsing wiki 90%, I subbed NIN not WAR, guess you didn't see the utsu casts or no beserks...

  20. #860
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulia
    Kalia, you must have been browsing wiki 90%, I subbed NIN not WAR, guess you didn't see the utsu casts or no beserks...
    Hmm... Well you were /WAR then until like 5 seconds before we left for camp! Either that or I'm crazy, which is a distinct possibility.

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