Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

[Veli]

From wiki:
93 Shields
63 Swords
58 Daggers
58 Katanas
56 Instruments
30 Guns
30 H2H

Swords are pretty much blah tho, so expect their rank to slip more. No surprise that the "tank" relics (katana which is marginal, sword which sucks, and shield which is awesome) are at the top, since tanks are so pampered in this game.

sword sucks? yea right...

[Ryko]

lmfao

Yes, it does suck.

PS While I'm at it, neither Santa nor the Easter bunny exist, btw.

[Veli]

lmfao

Yes, it does suck.

PS While I'm at it, neither Santa nor the Easter bunny exist, btw.

All relic weapons suck

[Ryko]

Can we just have you buy me a carousel and cut out the middleman?

No, not all relic weapons suck. The sword, however, does.

[Veli]

Can we just have you buy me a carousel and cut out the middleman?

No, not all relic weapons suck. The sword, however, does.

All relic weapons suck... End of story..

[Ryko]

Get one with a pink unicorn please, those are totally awesome.

[divisortheory]

sword sucks? yea right...

All relic weapons suck...

Are you stupid, or am I just missing an inside joke?

[Veli]

sword sucks? yea right...

All relic weapons suck...

Are you stupid, or am I just missing an inside joke?

LOLMandau

[aurik]

Get one with a pink unicorn please, those are totally awesome.

One of these?
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7...9bb4476mt8.jpg

[Ryko]

I think I'll stick with mine, that one looks sorta weird

[Tulia]

Defense Down

please dont tell me you suggested a meat eating thief use that...

You don't have capped marks/racc gear to land bolts? Bugards are not as evasive as the birds: should be able to macro out and hit them. Now if you're using a bomblet/core, I guess you reap what you sew.

I wouldn't fight shit that uses self-buffs without a reliable dispel. If you don't have dispel, avoid the bugards; thf gets the piercing bonus on colis, with 2 mandaus you should be focussing on those anyway.

That's what I am saying, I don't know how it is on your servers and how you guys fight but, there are so many variables.

We HAD to fight bugards because there was another party there and we wanted to get chains/exp, not to do a scientific experiment on parsering numbers. Bard was pulling so if dispel was needed, it wasn't always available. Colibri reflect so bard got slept if he used AOE sleep etc. Lots of things going on.

I'm just wondering do you only camp there when there are no parties like during the day or something where people need to work 9-5 jobs? Or if you fight and the mob does DEF up, either the BRD, RDM or whoever is super quick on dispel that no one lands low damage hits or people turn away to avoid racking up the low number parser hits?

You get my point, we were there to get exp and we got that and it wasn't bad for the camp we were in, Sunday afternoon, you really think you can get by pulling birds and only them with another party there and get 21k/hour?

[divisortheory]

LOLMandu

What's a mandu?

[Ryko]

http://www.arthurhungry.com/pictures...andu-thumb.jpg

[aurik]

Defense Down

please dont tell me you suggested a meat eating thief use that...

You don't have capped marks/racc gear to land bolts? Bugards are not as evasive as the birds: should be able to macro out and hit them. Now if you're using a bomblet/core, I guess you reap what you sew.

I wouldn't fight shit that uses self-buffs without a reliable dispel. If you don't have dispel, avoid the bugards; thf gets the piercing bonus on colis, with 2 mandaus you should be focussing on those anyway.

That's what I am saying, I don't know how it is on your servers and how you guys fight but, there are so many variables.

We HAD to fight bugards because there was another party there and we wanted to get chains/exp, not to do a scientific experiment on parsering numbers. Bard was pulling so if dispel was needed, it wasn't always available. Colibri reflect so bard got slept if he used AOE sleep etc. Lots of things going on.

I'm just wondering do you only camp there when there are no parties like during the day or something where people need to work 9-5 jobs? Or if you fight and the mob does DEF up, either the BRD, RDM or whoever is super quick on dispel that no one lands low damage hits or people turn away to avoid racking up the low number parser hits?

You get my point, we were there to get exp and we got that and it wasn't bad for the camp we were in, Sunday afternoon, you really think you can get by pulling birds and only them with another party there and get 21k/hour?

I tend to xp with 2brd+rdm, other parties usually go away.

Try having your bard alternate elegies for pulling instead of blowing finale. And yes, our mages are fast on dispel/finale, because it's one of those things that makes quite a difference.

[Tulia]

LOLMandu

What's a mandu?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandu_(dumpling)

[Tulia]

I tend to xp with 2brd+rdm, other parties usually go away.

Try having your bard alternate elegies for pulling instead of blowing finale. And yes, our mages are fast on dispel/finale, because it's one of those things that makes quite a difference.

Yeah but we had a WHM so 1/3 of what your setup has for dispel. And again, the parser wouldn't even show this, how fast mage's dispel or not etc, or how much a BRD or RDM can make a difference to a party, relic weapon or not.

[solsovly]

I tend to xp with 2brd+rdm, other parties usually go away.

Try having your bard alternate elegies for pulling instead of blowing finale. And yes, our mages are fast on dispel/finale, because it's one of those things that makes quite a difference.

On stuff that reflects, I'd rather pull with either a second elegy or a threnody. Finale might hit something useful like RR (not that I don't sometimes finale just out of laziness/habit). Just a minor nitpick.

[NynJa]

Defense Down

please dont tell me you suggested a meat eating thief use that...

You don't have capped marks/racc gear to land bolts? Bugards are not as evasive as the birds: should be able to macro out and hit them. Now if you're using a bomblet/core, I guess you reap what you sew.

I wouldn't fight shit that uses self-buffs without a reliable dispel. If you don't have dispel, avoid the bugards; thf gets the piercing bonus on colis, with 2 mandaus you should be focussing on those anyway.

um...I can get 285 dagger skill backed by 68 accuracy (342 overall acc), and I usually over around 90% accuracy (based on my last parse from Bhaflau on mostly Puks and Mamools...usually killing off puks after Flash with SA/TA WS so by the time I'm on my next mob flash is gone).

My marksmanship is 230, backed by 64 racc (could be slightly more but I 2box a bard now, so I havent updated my racc set in a while, and 20 of that set is collecting dust on a mule) for 291 racc. Thats not going to cut it for a semi-decent hit rate on most merit mobs, and the only thing I will be doing is giltossing and wasting precious time that could be spent meleeing...thus damage AND tp gain lost. Of course theres always the issue of it landing and not even procing.

[divisortheory]

I can get 285 dagger skill backed by 68 accuracy (342 overall acc), and I usually over around 90% accuracy

Do you actually do that though? Seems like you would want to swap a lot of +Acc gear out for Haste. I know I do.

[NynJa]

I can get 285 dagger skill backed by 68 accuracy (342 overall acc), and I usually over around 90% accuracy

Do you actually do that though? Seems like you would want to swap a lot of +Acc gear out for Haste. I know I do.

Homam, I hated it at first, then I've come to realize its a beautiful thing.


Only thing I could really swap out is:
Optical Hat for Walahra Turban
Life Belt for Swift Belt (alas I dont own one)
Homam Legs for Skadi Legs (debatable if it would have a higher effect, I think it would, I'd just need to get a pair first)