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  1. #1181
    Subduer of the Squenix
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    Thanks for the great info Alyriel. :D

    From my memory of Rostrum Pumps 30-40% complete resist seems very good indeed. Combine that with a Flawless ribbon and you could probably get a pretty reliable means of resisting those pesky status effects? I'm also really happy to hear that the wind skill seems to have a noticable effect on debuffing when brought up to a respectable level. The C skill has always bothered me hence the Skill vs CHR debates, so it seems from what you've said that wind skill behaves just like enfeebling/elemental would at that level (only people can get those skills well into the 300s )

  2. #1182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyriel
    Regarding your other comments, my understanding is that resist status effect traits (including the songs that enhance them), have two possible outcomes: 1) You completely resist the effect and as such you never even get the icon, 2) You partially resist the effect, which means you are still infilicted with it, but with a shorter duration than normal. So even though you only got a "30-40% resist rate" on those things during Rostrum Pumps, I'm willing to bet that the other 60-70% of the time the effects always lasted considerably less time than they would have had none of those songs/spells been used to enhance the trait.
    Yeah, this is fairly common knowledge (whether accurate or not, I don't know for sure, but like everyone else, I assume it), but, in my opinion, the shorter duration is inconsequential(sp) due to the fact that if your PLD has been petrified you want to Stona him right away, and not wait to see if it will be a partial resist that would have a shorter duration than normal.
    It could possibly be important in certain fights that use AoE status effects. If everyone in the party gets hit by something that really sucks, and you only have say 2 people in the party with Erase, some of those people are going to have to let the effect wear off on its own. Sure, you could have a WHM use Divine Veil + Erase, but that's still only every 10 minutes, any mob that's going to use bad AoE status effects is most likely going to do it pretty often.

  3. #1183
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    Relics aren't game breaking but they are a force multiplier. Can you live without them? Easily, but I still believe that they allow you do the same amount with fewer people. If you are going to NMs with 24+ people, then the overall relic effect is reduced. If you are stuck with fewer people at say a fafhogg (see above example), then it is more game breaking than someone coming in with a DD relic.

  4. #1184
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    not to rerail after all this lovely fighting, but:

    Kaminari - Shield, Alexander

    http://homepage.mac.com/jpjs28/Kaminari.jpg

  5. #1185
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    Zerx - Aegis on Shiva

  6. #1186
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    Kurage - Dagger

  7. #1187
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    Fairy News:

    Mitsurusigan: Aegis (completed in one month as his comment says)

    Quietus: Relic 4 Katana - He should have stage 5 once we kill the Animated Katana

    Relics apparently can be completed in one month now if you have the gil (which I understand he got from farming crafting- not making any assumptions, just stating the facts)

  8. #1188
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    i'd believe that, and probably mildly legitimately as well(tho im sure there are plenty out there who aren't).

    fact is, on alexander, upgrading a relic is cheaper than it has ever been. the average bazaar price of singles is 10k, with 'friend rates' being anywhere from 6-8k. that means that if you never set foot into a dynamis zone and buy every single piece of currency at market value, that's ~180mil. while that sounds like a lot of money, and of course it is, that's not the insurmountable mountain many people faced at the peaks of inflation when a relic cost 4-6 times that much to upgrade. furthermore, folks who saved rather then spent when the economy was in the process of deflating tend to have had their money rise in value.

    case in point, i've got, i dunno, about 7 mil at the moment. not the most gil i've ever had, certainly not the least. but it's far more valuable in our current economy than the 30-40 mil i had during the peak of inflation.

    ok, moar relic pictures prz.

  9. #1189
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    ^ that drk looks more impressive

  10. #1190
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    yea, dra's an amazing dark knight

  11. #1191
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    (just notching in an update marker for myself)

    Note#1
    Thanks to all of you that have put in edits yourself. Please remember to update the server and weapon tallies also if you don't mind. Makes less work for me.

    Note#2
    Another thing that would make less work for me is if you all stop posting names here and just go straight to the wiki link on pg. 1! I'm looking forward to this topic dropping off the first page.

    Note#3a & 3b
    Quote Originally Posted by Mufferino
    Kurage - Dagger
    server?
    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    Mitsurusigan: Aegis (completed in one month as his comment says)
    I'm gonna assume that's dyslexic typing and you really meant Mitsurugisan.

    Note#4
    If you guys post screenshots, please try to include the actual player in your screenshot. If you only capture name and inventory, it's pretty boring. I never bother putting those types of shots into entries.

    Good example:
    http://webzoom.freewebs.com/cyuena/t...og_Aegis01.jpg

    Bad example:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...3/ragnarok.jpg

    P.S.
    @ the guy complaining about about 2 names missing from Hades who then decided to not go ahead and edit those names in.

    P.P.S
    /sigh at the wiki connection dying on me as I try to submit an update.

  12. #1192
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  13. #1193
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Amemet+1! Me > Nynja!
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    grats tho

  14. #1194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    Fairy News:
    Mitsurusigan: Aegis (completed in one month as his comment says)
    Great, now he can show to everything on NIN with style


    I think hes been saving currency for quite some time though, and probably just recently chose to go with shield.
    Edit: Well he just told me he got all his currency in a month 8o guess I was wrong.

  15. #1195
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    If what he said is true, it seems to throw the whole 'not-enough-currency-to-go-around' comments out the window, at least on Fairy.

  16. #1196
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    Yeah, Fairy also has something like the the 3rd lowest relics on the server. We've obviously been doing dynamis the same amount of time you'd think there would be plenty to go around, but then you gotta think about nabs who get to stage 3 and quit..

  17. #1197
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    i think i have enough money to upgrade 3 Relic through my LS. Our LS rules is once you get Lv3, LS is paying for the rest almost all the way through it.

    Going to do Sword, Shield for sure. but then i'm still undecided about Dagger, Bow/Gun or Katana or i could give Club for my GF ^-^

    My Investment ? i'm a Curse-1 Machine maker

  18. #1198
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    I see your Life Belt. :O Grats tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    I see your Life Belt. :O Grats tho
    Still had Dynamis-X gear on from the night before. Life Belt > Swift on those, IMO. Ungur too was on but wasn't much of an e-peen shot for me

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    Hal got Kikoku recently on Kujata

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