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  1. #1841
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    sorry to chime in , but i think the problem has to do with peoples definitions of words, in this case selfish...

    as far as i can tell.. xavier is saying that unless you do something that is 100% selfless, you are being selfish... by brennon not being even more charitable in giving her account away, she is being selfish....
    reminds me of the saying "if you're not with us, you're against us"

    wafik seems to be saying that, just because you didnt do something selfless, that doesnt make you selfish.. you are neutral in that case, or fall under a different catagory.. "not 100% selfless"... (i understand she showed her selflessness by other means, and im not here to judge her either way ) and that is not a bad thing, nor is it the same as being selfish

    personally i agree with wafik... this isnt a black and white arguement, you have to take into consideration all the shades of grey inbetween

    edit: dammit like 100 posts occured from the time i wanted to post this... D; i fear im a little late now

    edit again, though people prolly wont read this:
    both xavier and wafik are correct, one point of view is not necessarily better than the other point of view

  2. #1842
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safer
    sorry to chime in , but i think the problem has to do with peoples definitions of words, in this case selfish...

    as far as i can tell.. xavier is saying that unless you do something that is 100% selfless, you are being selfish... by brennon not being even more charitable in giving her account away, she is being selfish....
    reminds me of the saying "if you're not with us, you're against us"

    wafik seems to be saying that, just because you didnt do something selfless, that doesnt make you selfish.. you are neutral in that case, or fall under a different catagory.. "not 100% selfless"... (i understand she showed her selflessness by other means, and im not here to judge her either way ) and that is not a bad thing, nor is it the same as being selfish

    personally i agree with wafik... this isnt a black and white arguement, you have to take into consideration all the shades of grey inbetween
    Adaberk is Blue.

  3. #1843
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    speaking of post count, whatever happened to that chart that showed the default forum ranks? it looked like a timeline, i think black belt was at the far right and melee smn was at the far left. tried searching just now but couldn't find it

  4. #1844
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    Quote Originally Posted by safer
    stuff
    Are you calling my view American and his the rest of the world???

    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    speaking of post count, whatever happened to that chart that showed the default forum ranks? it looked like a timeline, i think black belt was at the far right and melee smn was at the far left. tried searching just now but couldn't find it
    the forum ranks are based off of the chart that ryko made, so look for post by him I guess.

  5. #1845
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    speaking of post count, whatever happened to that chart that showed the default forum ranks? it looked like a timeline, i think black belt was at the far right and melee smn was at the far left. tried searching just now but couldn't find it
    Oh yeah, Ryko's ghetto chart.

  6. #1846
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    Aurik made the chart, ryko sigged it.

  7. #1847
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Aurik made the chart, ryko sigged it.
    Are you saying ryko...stole the chart? HOW TYPICAL.

  8. #1848
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    Wow, if he really did, that's pretty selfish.

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    I'd say something but then someone will make a topic on how it's offensive to black people and it should be REMOVED.

  10. #1850
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    I'd say something but then someone will make a topic on how it's offensive to black people and it should be REMOVED.
    Or replace 'chart' with 'bike' and call it a day.

  11. #1851
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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Wow, if he really did, that's pretty selfish.
    http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4199/round2vd0.jpg
    SO IS LOTTING ON LV 1 RELIC WEAPONS WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE LV5.

  12. #1852
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    I just want another pair ready to go incase I drop mine, quit, and then come back a few months later.

  13. #1853
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    I just want another pair ready to go incase I drop mine, quit, and then come back a few months later.
    Upgrade it to 4, get the attestation and have the currency ready incase too.

  14. #1854
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    /Cue someone posting the screenshot of the NIN dual wielding Kikoku and Yoshimitsu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qatsi2
    /Cue someone posting the screenshot of the NIN dual wielding Kikoku and Yoshimitsu.
    Not that I've ever tried, but I was under the impression it wasn't possible to upgrade a second time to do a limitation by the game that prevented you from starting the quest more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Quote Originally Posted by qatsi2
    /Cue someone posting the screenshot of the NIN dual wielding Kikoku and Yoshimitsu.
    Not that I've ever tried, but I was under the impression it wasn't possible to upgrade a second time to do a limitation by the game that prevented you from starting the quest more than once.
    Entirely possible , there's a hume F with lvl5 and lvl4 dual weilded kikoku.

  17. #1857
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    Must suck knowing that your 400m gil combo is outparsed by something you can buy from the AH for cheap.

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    I think 5/4 katana would be better than k/u or k/s, but thats still an awful lot of currency.

  19. #1859
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    It's probably an mistake in coding where you can do more than 1 relic (e.g. Aegis + Excalibur) but either they forgot to set it so that you can do the same one more than once or it's not coded correctly that(like Aurik mentioned) redo it if you drop it.

    Presumably would you get to Stage 4 and attempt to trade for the Stage 5, the NPC would tell you to return after resorting your inventory should you already have the final stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Quote Originally Posted by qatsi2
    /Cue someone posting the screenshot of the NIN dual wielding Kikoku and Yoshimitsu.
    Not that I've ever tried, but I was under the impression it wasn't possible to upgrade a second time to do a limitation by the game that prevented you from starting the quest more than once.
    The quest is only active if you have certain items in your inventory. Stage 5 is not an item that activates the Goblin, he talks to you is if he has no idea who you are, so you can repeat it. Hell I can bet you could upgrade two of the same item at a time (like have Batardeau and Dynamis Dagger) if you kept one in your Mog Locker when you go to upgrade another.

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