Ye olde datamining

[Khamsin]

On the subject of relying soley on shuriken for the majority of damage:

Unless SE does something with the current throwing system, the delay of the shuriken isn't the only delay involved. There's a wait period between throws that makes spamming shuriken past a certain level completely pointless. However, if those new shuriken are cheap, Sange might actually be viable. There's gotta be a good trade-off for getting nailed by a mob once you basically toss all your shadows at it.

I must've missed the "relying on only shurikens for dmg" statement. A very well eq. and merited NIN can take on most WAR w/o ridill / adaberk in XP without a problem, without using sange or shurikens.

What I'm excited about is bridging the gap, NIN will never be a 175 merit Ridill / adaberk / ada legs WAR. But we also don't have to settle for 3-4% behind them either.

Take advantage of what NIN has (Sange macro Racc + Ratt) NIN tekko +1 high AGI, and work from there. It's a step in the right direction, whether NINs choose to take advantage of it is up to them.

I've outparsed people with one of those pieces exclusively (yes, they both had good gear) by good amounts before on my NIN. I realize good WARs with both would outparse me, but not by a ton.

The current way the ranged attack system works, you would probably get 1 shuriken in the time equal to one round of swings. And with 88 dmg, I don't think that they will do enough to keep up in the long run. Not to mention somewhat negating one of the largest advantages NIN has right now, in dual weild and haste bonuses.

I actually was on a pretty good ego trip with my NIN lately, outparsing WARs left and right, some with ridill and adaberk.

Took a WAR with pretty much full heca +1 for WS and armada gear to put me in my place in a hurry. The damage he did compared to other WARs was just insane.

The point being, even powerful jobs have room for improvement if you go looking for them. Underestimating sange and ranged attacks (not spamming but occasional) in my opinion is a mistake.

Edit: the party with him was also with a DRK with apocalypse, needless to say my ass was put in place like it was my job. Made me want to find new ways to up my NIN though.

The difference between an adaberk ridill WAR and an armaberk ridill WAR with full heca+1 WS gear is the difference between "(not spamming but occasional)" and "(spamming nonstop)", in the case of good high level shuriken.

[LD]

You want to see the real game making addition here?

"You can now select to hear a chime sound when receiving a /tell from another player using the /tell chat filter option."


Took them years to figure that out, but better late than never.
I can finally knock out the BGM, pump out the SE, sit in my MH, and wait for a ding while I'm playing a normal friggin' game.

[Tidane]

You want to see the real game making addition here?

"You can now select to hear a chime sound when receiving a /tell from another player using the /tell chat filter option."


Took them years to figure that out, but better late than never.
I can finally knock out the BGM, pump out the SE, sit in my MH, and wait for a ding while I'm playing a normal friggin' game.

So we should see a windower by SE in about 5 years?

[Dank]

You are missing the part where NOBODY is gonna try to make a party now, and everyone is gonna be playing another game waiting for a ding. lolol

[Khamsin]

Megrim Crown Lv69 Head
All
DEF:18 Enchantment: ???

Goodbye Glory Crown, hello Megrim Crown?

Glory Crown is better. You don't need to use an enchantment charge to get the ??? effect.

[BerenTebogo]

anyways sorry for the like 3 page derail on the benefits of throwing.

Continue throwing Enhance killer effect weapons for BLU only at us.

[Aviendha]

You are missing the part where NOBODY is gonna try to make a party now, and everyone is gonna be playing another game waiting for a ding. lolol

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Guilty in advance

[Vygun]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...6-50-18-59.jpg

found this on ki of all places thought i'd post here...

[Tidane]

You are missing the part where NOBODY is gonna try to make a party now, and everyone is gonna be playing another game waiting for a ding. lolol

/

Guilty in advance

I wonder what the ding sounds like.

[sweet]

Odin fuckin some shit up....

[Metah]

Cool, Dark Rider can fly.

[Tajin]

Odin vs. Alexander?


Anybody caring about the XP (SE: SUBSTANTIAL!) increase in besieged?

[BRP]

Odin fuckin Alexander up....

[JAM Project]

Odin vs. Alexander?


Anybody caring about the XP (SE: SUBSTANTIAL!) increase in besieged?

In before 800 exp cap.

[Zypher]

How do i see the new shit in altana viewer?? Can anyone make an updated list?

[Tryble]

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[archibaldcrane]

Megrim Crown Lv69 Head
All
DEF:18 Enchantment: ???

Goodbye Glory Crown, hello Megrim Crown?

Glory Crown is better. You don't need to use an enchantment charge to get the ??? effect.

Yes, Glory Crown automatically turns stolen underpants into profit, Megrim Crown takes a charge.

[Severance]

Note: That Odin picture. Flames at the bottom. Castle.

Mount Zhaolym.

[Kazen]

WTF else do you need for RDM?

A job ability that deletes the Wise Gear set from the game.

[Sonomaa]

Note: That Odin picture. Flames at the bottom. Castle.

Mount Zhaolym.

or, odin in the underworld, sky is dark above, possibly underground