So, MNKs: (regarding 10/18 patch)

[Judai]

9 Accuracy = more able to use Meat while keeping Haste (Turban)
With /NIN the Enmity shouldn't matter, think these are more aimed at NIN tho maybe.

This is kinda what I was thinking. Especially if you're using Asuran Fists all the time, right? It's like an O hat for your hands. You could wear that Turban full time, concievably, right?

So the question would probably be, is 1 DMG 1 delay 9 acc > 6% crit hits? Would probably have to be parsed to really know, but I respect the opinions you guys have posted so far.

I use meat already, rarely miss, don't want to attack slower and my O-hat is for WS swap macro only. These will never outparse Destroyers. If you need acc there are other spots to find it, you can't replace the +6% crit rate anywhere.

[freja]

I'd probably use destroyers over these in XP, but I still want a pair of those badly. They look godly for soloing or tanking.

[Drinhkinn]

Those things are for nin. MNKs can GTFO and leave my shinys alone, because if theres gonna be too much demand its gonna be a skyhigh priced item.

[Furia]

Those things are for nin. MNKs can GTFO and leave my shinys alone, because if theres gonna be too much demand its gonna be a skyhigh priced item.

that's just how things are when they are just released ... 10m Durandal anyone?

[Minions]

This is kinda different, well HQ is anyway. Probably will be a high teir 0/1 and who knows if the mats are from another "HNM" they add ;x

[TsingTao]

I'd probably use destroyers over these in XP, but I still want a pair of those badly. They look godly for soloing or tanking.

100% agree.

[Alleya]

I will definitely add this to my collection, but there's no way they're replacing destroyers for a damage build. The only thing that could do that remains Spharai.

I don't know about the rest of you monks, but I'm not going to tank full time for 1 extra dmg. It's bad enough tanking 80% of the time with incompetant whms or lolsmnhealers in merit parties. Plus, any monk worth his parser knows that a huge chunk of damage comes from the massive crit rate he gets with destroyers and crit merits.

But for when I pull out the countertanking sexiness? Hell yes.

[Machazareel]

Getting these for kiting (*'-')b

Shit, I'll probably punch tiamat with them on ninja some time if I feel like waving my balls around a bit.

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

id keep destroyers for mnk, and kiting for nin

[Cursed]

first thing i thought when i saw these H2H's is "Counter" tanking stuff like charby

9 Enmity
+
9 Accuracy = more counters?

But wait a second, Cross Counters are there for that.
Also Some think + Eva hurts your counter rate.

So, Im guessing these are just for Pups.

EDIT:
and oh yeah, LOL @ anyone who thinks these will outparse unlocked destroyers in the hand of a good mnk.

[aurik]

nin onry.

[chiz]

Getting these for kiting (*'-')b

Shit, I'll probably punch tiamat with them on ninja some time if I feel like waving my balls around a bit.

Tiamat's Counter > Your Counter ;;

But ya, Destroyers get that +6% crit to both hands, unlike other KS30 +crit weapons, which is part of the reason why Destroyers are somewhat "broken".

As for synth recipe....guessing they're Bonecrafting and might use Cerberus Claws. Hopefully not everyone spammed the bow, or worse yet....the ring >.>

[Bluedemon]

As already mentioned, these are amazing for kiting. Who cares about how good they are for Monk, I want them for my Ninja!

[Awoir]

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6950

[Machazareel]

Getting these for kiting (*'-')b

Shit, I'll probably punch tiamat with them on ninja some time if I feel like waving my balls around a bit.

Tiamat's Counter > Your Counter ;;

But ya, Destroyers get that +6% crit to both hands, unlike other KS30 +crit weapons, which is part of the reason why Destroyers are somewhat "broken".

As for synth recipe....guessing they're Bonecrafting and might use Cerberus Claws. Hopefully not everyone spammed the bow, or worse yet....the ring >.>

eh, I've katana-tanked Tiamat a couple times before, his counter rate isn't anything spectacular, so that's not a major concern for me <.<

[chiz]

eh, I've katana-tanked Tiamat a couple times before, his counter rate isn't anything spectacular, so that's not a major concern for me <.<

Ya, ijk, not sure if you get Counter w/out /MNK anyways but its pretty potent nonetheless, especially with low defense (400-500 on my THF). Its bad enough that I actually prefer /NIN to /WAR for Tiamat and even with /NIN Tebbad Wing > 2x Counter means insta-death.

Worst thing about it is it doesn't actually say you're countered and doesn't tell you lost a shadow either. Also you'd lose your Parry skill and get Guard instead with H2H equipped. Would be fun to mess around with though, maybe even with /DRK and Souleater.

[Awoir]

HQ rasetsu gives you counter! =P

[Machazareel]

That's my only real gripe with it, the fact that it doesn't say anything in your log.

There you are, happily counting your shadows, and Tiamat suddenly MS crits you in the face. Strangely, though, this happened more with estaff tanking. I think he hit me like... once the entire time I katana tanked. Granted I didn't have my usual hate hold as I was /WAR, co-tanking with a nin/drk and a pld/nin, which is what got me to swinging katanas in the first place.

Worked well, though. Ninja can actually do some decent katana damage to timmy 8o

[BerenTebogo]

As already mentioned, these are amazing for kiting. Who cares about how good they are for Monk, I want them for my Ninja!

Exactly, I will use these on kited mobs where I won't take alot of damage.

(I.E. Jailer of Faith)

[threevo]

def wearing these to tank on ninja instead of LOLshitEarthStaff or even katanas