Let's talk Hasso

[Xavier]

So far, Hasso seems like a really nice buff for SAM, but I'm way more interested in the Seigan at this point. Its absolutely absurb.

Full Overwhelm merits = +15% DMG to WS from the front?

[The Blackrose]

See below...

[Eaglestrike]

Capped overwhelm is sick, dropped a 1401 gekko on something today with WAR sub <_<

Does it work with spirit within? Or bow WS?

Sword = 1 Hand = No.

Overwhelm doesn't have the two-handed weapon restriction.

[The Blackrose]

Capped overwhelm is sick, dropped a 1401 gekko on something today with WAR sub <_<

Does it work with spirit within? Or bow WS?

Sword = 1 Hand = No.

Overwhelm doesn't have the two-handed weapon restriction.

Silly me, thought we were talking Hasso for a second. Sorry. Should get some sleep.

[Ryko]

So far, Hasso seems like a really nice buff for SAM, but I'm way more interested in the Seigan at this point. Its absolutely absurb.

Full Overwhelm merits = +15% DMG to WS from the front?

Yeah it's 5 % per

[Xavier]

So far, Hasso seems like a really nice buff for SAM, but I'm way more interested in the Seigan at this point. Its absolutely absurb.

Full Overwhelm merits = +15% DMG to WS from the front?

Yeah it's 5 % per

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christ lol, so awesome.

really makes sam/thf fking viable beyond belief again then, with hasso + overwhelm at HNMs. RNG seems pretty well off now too.

The only people crying so far are DRKs who are now upset that their dark spells, which a week ago they were all complaining sucked and were getting nerfed anyway, now take longer to cast if they have Hasso up. Some things are to be expected I guess.

[Lordwafik]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt sam/thf useless for overwhelm since you are there to SA+WS ?

[Sandria]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt sam/thf useless for overwhelm since you are there to SA+WS ?

Depends on the mob. If you're staring down the loaded barrel of a Fafnir...SA is the LAST thing you wanna use.

[theo]

I imagine with the capped Overwhelm merits you could TA-Overwhelm-WS onto the tank, then run around back for the SA-WS.

[cassiraa]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt sam/thf useless for overwhelm since you are there to SA+WS ?

PLD/NIN with a SAM TA-Gekko onto them from the front.

[Krandor]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt sam/thf useless for overwhelm since you are there to SA+WS ?

Raw 15% boost on damage would be a good chunk of damage to plant onto tanks with TA.

[_Zoolander_]

Any tests done yet with SAM main for the haste part? Is it 10% too, or higher? Anyone else confirm /sam Hasso gives 10%?^^

[Krandor]

Read the thread.. it's already in here.

[Plow]

The only people crying so far are DRKs who are now upset that their dark spells, which a week ago they were all complaining sucked and were getting nerfed anyway, now take longer to cast if they have Hasso up. Some things are to be expected I guess.

Only the dumb ones hehe. It's really easy to time your ws>abs>hasso>ws>medi>ws

And it's really not *that* big a deal if you goof

[Ithorien]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt sam/thf useless for overwhelm since you are there to SA+WS ?

TA Tank, SA WS.

On another note, quite late in the thread but I assumed 10 STR 10% Haste and 10 ACC. Hopefully that proves 100% true (and really there's only the ACC left since it seems people extensively tested speed).

Wheeeee

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[Litium]

[Kaylia]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt sam/thf useless for overwhelm since you are there to SA+WS ?

Raw 15% boost on damage would be a good chunk of damage to plant onto tanks with TA.

if you need a TA+WS at 75 to keep hate, find a new job.

SAM/WAR ftw

Are you talking about xp party? Because I seriously doubt that's what they are talking about.

[LD]

You're not supposed to put it that nicely, stupidity has to be stomped in the balls with inch long cleats.

Always nice when a job gets an addition that allows for some variation in the expected flow of an event.
Gunna be cool checkin out SAM again, I haven't played that in at least 6 months.

[TsingTao]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt sam/thf useless for overwhelm since you are there to SA+WS ?

TA Tank, SA WS.

On another note, quite late in the thread but I assumed 10 STR 10% Haste and 10 ACC. Hopefully that proves 100% true (and really there's only the ACC left since it seems people extensively tested speed).

Wheeeee

Some quick and dirty "add and remove ACC gear" testing vs. Lesser Collibri last night would make me think that's gonna be close. Swapping gear around while waiting for a replacement I was getting somewhere between 6-10ACC with Hasso active.

At 59 though I was getting:
+9STR
+6-10ACC
Unknown +Haste% (others covered that though)

Sorry I can't be more precise about the +ACC. Sadly I didn't have a whole lot of smaller 1-3ACC pieces to narrow it down further (Snipers, PCC/Life, Sting only). If people haven't pinned it down by tonight I'll grab some more bits and try and be exact.

[Litium]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt sam/thf useless for overwhelm since you are there to SA+WS ?

Raw 15% boost on damage would be a good chunk of damage to plant onto tanks with TA.

if you need a TA+WS at 75 to keep hate, find a new job.

SAM/WAR ftw

Are you talking about xp party? Because I seriously doubt that's what they are talking about.

No, I'm talking HNM, any real PLD doesn't need a TA+WS to keep hate.