Ashu Talif assault things

[Kyreth]

I was talking about T1-T2 which are extremely hard (1 mainly), and you usually can't just shout for a pickup for T3. Yeah I know gilsellers love those ra/ex Haidate-1 and would obviously farm it, thats all people want I doubt anyone cares about the other items. If they wanted to adjust it just take all money rewards out and let us spam for pants.

You honestly think it'd be about the demi-Haidate drops? Hail, lol-cifer!

Heck no. It'd be about the synth stuff. And the other droppables. At current prices, it'd be a never-ending cycle of RMT farmfest if it was spammable like it was before. If you don't think that Assault can't be beaten down to farm status if repeated constantly, something is very wrong on your end of the intraweb.

[Tajin]

No thanks, I don't need throat crabs.

This one was so easily repeatable it'd have been RMT paradise inside of a month. Just what we need- another friggin RMT farmfest dumping Gil into the economy and undercutting craft items into the cellar.

And like I said. S-E slammed the lid on the cookie jar. Yeah, it hurts. Get over it.

Flamebait, nothing to see here.

SE is a bunch of stupid assholes

[Kyreth]

Flamebait, nothing to see here.

I figured the "suck my balls" bit was worth a creative response. If not, mea culpa. My point stands, the Assault was a spammable farmfest waiting to get RMT'ed. S-E cut it off. Did this not cross anyone's mind when they saw the initial setup for this?

[LagiHoodoo]

I'm gonna get lynched for this but..
So what if RMT might have turned this into a farm fest? The vast majority of the money drops suck and aren't a good return for time spent. And the few good money drops are apparently rare as sin anyways.
Not only that, but unless they somehow took up cleaning out the AH of every piece of currency available, the regular player base had just as much opportunity to farm the hell of it too.
This change helped RMT more than anything by making buying autuum stones and spamming Byakko the best way again to have a shot at Haste Pants.

It doesn't really matter now. SE put a horrible restriction on it and we all know they aren't going to take it off. Atleast they could have let you keep trying more than once a day until you actually won but now loosing is a real bite in the arse if you're trying to unlock the other two missions.

[Kurp]

Ah, so RMT seems to be the root of the nerf.

It's getting clearer and clearer that the game is now dominated by them and that -will not- change. It's becoming apparent, over the last year? How long does it take? That RMT owns FFXI now. Honestly, if they have to nerf the shit out of quests after two or three days because it's already RMT infested then yeah... They lost.

[Kyreth]

because we know how much RMT spams ouryu and bahamut and other instanced fights with money drops that are very challenging fights. i'm sure RMT will waste their time and xp on these missions for some gems. hell we can see how they flocked to cerberus.

You mean the other instances that require unbuyable seals that you have to farm to do the BCNM, as opposed to handing an NPC a few coins you pick up from the AH? About 2 seconds at the Nashmau AH vs. a few zillion hours farming Kindred's Seals. Yeah, that's a good comparison.

Not even comparable. People were beating the 3rd Assault before the first day of the update was done, never mind the other two. It's fun. It's challenging. That doesn't make it not learnable and easily repeatable if done again and again.

As it stood, it was absolutely farmable- and not for a few frickin' gems though. The Assault drops top-end PUP parts (500K or so), at least two of the items needed for the topend new synths (star sapphire and Yoichi's Sash, price unknown so far) , plus at least a few of the Hydra/Cerebus parts (around 1 mil each).

[Tajin]

Flamebait, nothing to see here.

I figured the "suck my balls" bit was worth a creative response. If not, mea culpa. My point stands, the Assault was a spammable farmfest waiting to get RMT'ed. S-E cut it off. Did this not cross anyone's mind when they saw the initial setup for this?

/sigh Why do i bother?...

why haven't they fix Ulli? (oh wait they already fixed it)

I guess having linkshells kill kirin in 10 minutes or less was E.V.I.L. in SE's eyes

[Kurp]

because we know how much RMT spams ouryu and bahamut and other instanced fights with money drops that are very challenging fights. i'm sure RMT will waste their time and xp on these missions for some gems. hell we can see how they flocked to cerberus.

You mean the other instances that require unbuyable seals that you have to farm to do the BCNM, as opposed to handing an NPC a few coins you pick up from the AH? About 2 seconds at the Nashmau AH vs. a few zillion hours farming Kindred's Seals. Yeah, that's a good comparison.

Not even comparable. People were beating the 3rd Assault before the first day of the update was done, never mind the other two. It's fun. It's challenging. That doesn't make it not learnable and easily repeatable if done again and again.

As it stood, it was absolutely farmable- and not for a few frickin' gems though. The Assault drops top-end PUP parts (500K or so), at least two of the items needed for the topend new synths (star sapphire and Yoichi's Sash, price unknown so far) , plus at least a few of the Hydra/Cerebus parts (around 1 mil each).

So fucking what if it was farmable? People still have to actually you know.. do the BC to get the items. Competiton vs. demand would have leveled the prices of items over time. All this does is fuck puppetmasters and fuck people that actually wanted to farm it?

RMT was the problem then? Then if shit like this is insta-nerfed then the game is lost, no? They can't come up with something that isn't auto-wrecked by RMT and are unwilling to take the steps to ban them.

Is the game lost?

[toonces]

S-E is JP.. do the math, they cant relax and have it easy

(no offense to anyone >.>)

[layoneil]

As it stood, it was absolutely farmable- and not for a few frickin' gems though. The Assault drops top-end PUP parts (500K or so), at least two of the items needed for the topend new synths (star sapphire and Yoichi's Sash, price unknown so far) , plus at least a few of the Hydra/Cerebus parts (around 1 mil each).

like these prices are set in stone? PUP parts shouldn't cost 500k each, people should be able to farm it and bring the price down to something more reasonable (like 50k-100k).

and as more people spam this it will increase the price of Gold Pieces on the AH, which is good for everyone. they can make gil out of IS more easily.

[HAcoreRD]

It did not help that you almost had to static this since you had to have finished the other two quests in the series before attempting the 3rd.
This was an amazing idea how it was. Heres a fight thats tough, but because of its set up, rather flexible as to what jobs can win it. If you failed, you could just change things a bit and try again right away. It was FUN and casual.
Now its just a fucking chore and half the time you're gonna be scared of wasting peoples time.

Worse for other jobs:

(panicing player): Shit, 30 minutes to drop these mobs. We need SAMs and NINs only! Fuck the DRG and we'll only invite DRKs with K. Clubs.

[draxyl]

It's not that this BC was filled with RMT, its that either it might be or legitimate players could "exploit" it and do the BC over and over for decent loot. Really, the rate of return is pretty high considering the drop values versus imperial coin prices. I'm not happy about it, but I can see why they did it...unfortunately, its going to make doing this BC for the pants a real pain in the ass.

Just finished my TAU missions on Sunday, and did the first 2 tiers last night...sigh.

[Kurp]

It did not help that you almost had to static this since you had to have finished the other two quests in the series before attempting the 3rd.
This was an amazing idea how it was. Heres a fight thats tough, but because of its set up, rather flexible as to what jobs can win it. If you failed, you could just change things a bit and try again right away. It was FUN and casual.
Now its just a fucking chore and half the time you're gonna be scared of wasting peoples time.

Worse for other jobs:

(panicing player): Shit, 30 minutes to drop these mobs. We need SAMs and NINs only! Fuck the DRG and we'll only invite DRKs with K. Clubs.

I'm pretty sure by that saying that crap that you actually haven't done the BCs. Seriously, go do them, then comment.

[HAcoreRD]

You guys forget, it's only good loot for a player if:

*He can lot high everytime
*The leader QM's himself and steals the drops.

Everyone says "OMG RMT would own this!"

Is this Americs, and the RMT are terrorists (exellent comparison). Why do you guys need to play a damn game in fear of RMT. iF they fuck with us we'll fuck with them. Otherwise let them camp Serket, Roc, Sim. and get their crappy stones, they don't have enough characters for those stones. We as a community could've gotten our pants and simply put the Ulli crisis behind us, now SE throws us back in the pan.

It did not help that you almost had to static this since you had to have finished the other two quests in the series before attempting the 3rd.
This was an amazing idea how it was. Heres a fight thats tough, but because of its set up, rather flexible as to what jobs can win it. If you failed, you could just change things a bit and try again right away. It was FUN and casual.
Now its just a fucking chore and half the time you're gonna be scared of wasting peoples time.

Worse for other jobs:

(panicing player): Shit, 30 minutes to drop these mobs. We need SAMs and NINs only! Fuck the DRG and we'll only invite DRKs with K. Clubs.

I'm pretty sure by that saying that crap that you actually haven't done the BCs. Seriously, go do them, then comment.

Yup. I didn't do them. I'm a 75 SMN, 70 WHM, I don't need the knife, or the pants. Noone asked me to come along to help, so naturally I didn't ask or care, as I was too busy doing COP missions to get my lazy ass to sea. From what I read they die easy from a WS, so I can imagine a Manaburn can do this easily. That's cool, but the drops aren't on my want list, muchless use list.

[Slott]

i think each one is flagged seperately, 1, 2 and 3, because I have 2 and 3 flagged, and i talked to the guy this morning and he still gave me the option to flag #1.... so ;o

maybe can still do 3 per day, just not repeating same one

[Kurp]

i think each one is flagged seperately, 1, 2 and 3, because I have 2 and 3 flagged, and i talked to the guy this morning and he still gave me the option to flag #1.... so ;o

maybe can still do 3 per day, just not repeating same one

I really hope so.. If that's the case I won't mind it too much. All three are flagged for me now, I just hope I don't do one tonight and stand in a party ready to do the second are thrid and fail to be warped to the BC.

[LagiHoodoo]

It did not help that you almost had to static this since you had to have finished the other two quests in the series before attempting the 3rd.
This was an amazing idea how it was. Heres a fight thats tough, but because of its set up, rather flexible as to what jobs can win it. If you failed, you could just change things a bit and try again right away. It was FUN and casual.
Now its just a fucking chore and half the time you're gonna be scared of wasting peoples time.

Worse for other jobs:

(panicing player): Shit, 30 minutes to drop these mobs. We need SAMs and NINs only! Fuck the DRG and we'll only invite DRKs with K. Clubs.

I'm pretty sure by that saying that crap that you actually haven't done the BCs. Seriously, go do them, then comment.

lol :D
This was actually pretty funny.
I managed to win the first tier with a manaburnish set up last night.
Nin Whm Rdm Blm Blm Brd. Was pretty surprised too since we had one wipe near the start. We were able to keep killing though since no one was double weakend.

As for Drg and Drk. A Drg would actually be pretty nice on the Imps. A jump, along with wyvern could take them out rather fast. ( Can't say though as I don't know quite the damage theyd do. ) Drks have atleast two AOE Weapon skills I know off they can use. AOE WS being another popular method of winning this.

Unlike a lot of other fights, I wasn't scared of trying this with whatever I had available at the time. Now though.. meh.

[Ryko]

They are flagged separately, you can go to the cutter and see the option for all 3 if you flagged them all, saves you a trip back.

Still hilarious they decided to throw the nerf at it.

[sweet]

Is this Americs, and the RMT are terrorists (exellent comparison).

No, it's actually not at all.

[yrpaine]

what a fucking joke, gg

better at least make it so you can reflag if you lose or something, i feel bad for ppl that didn't get past stage 1