Ashu Talif assault things

[Purplenv]

Then, I don't know what to tell you, because we have exhausted all possibilities IMO.

I suggested someone else (again) because then you could watch them. Right? Because, at most before the pull, your just resting.

Watching from a distance, and it works, could very well shed some light on your problem, first hand. Letting someone else do it, and it fails, could also shed light on anything that you may not see, even from 3rd person perspective.

How about this.
Have someone else do the initial attack, to trigger the 3 chests, IE your tank, BUT
You pull the captain off the tank, and then become the kiter. I doubt that kited hate has to remain on the initial puller, so just take some action to pull the hate, and go kite.

Just keep in mind, if your pt rests before engaging the captain, the tank will have hate from the attack, and depending on your hate while kiting, the tank resting could pull the captain from your kite path.

Honestly, without us seeing this first hand, my honest suggestion is to let someone else do it.
shit, if you can get it to work, with the plan I outlined above, there would be no reason to change it. Just do that each time...

[Purplenv]

3/4 on Barbarosa Moufles in our last 2 gatherings.

Roughly about 0/20 on pants now.

[Gathzel]

My set have currently done 2 runs on Targeting the Captain, 1/2 on Moufles and 0/2 on Zerehs.

A question though, it has been implied to not be the case but I have not seen a confirmation:
- Is there any reason to believe that performing the sneak attack for third chest, lowers (or makes impossible) the chance of getting Zerehs?

[SassiAsura]

Damnit draxyl, post faster. ^^

[draxyl]

Still no VNC access from work

I made a video showing how to pull the captain correctly, so you get the 3 chests at the end. I'll try to encode and post it to youtube tonight.

- Is there any reason to believe that performing the sneak attack for third chest, lowers (or makes impossible) the chance of getting Zerehs

You can't lower a 0 any further This is a good question. I don't think it makes it impossible to get the drop, as I believe some on here have gotten both drops from the same BC before. As far as lowering the % chance of pants drop, it's basically impossible to tell. Or rather, if you did want to tell, you'd have to spend roughly the next 3 years doing this BC every single day in order to get a valid sample size as comparison.

Not it.

[Skinner]

We are now 3/22 for the pants, with our last two pair coming back to back . Out of the three we did get, 2 were when we only got 2 chests popped and the last one we got all 3 chests.

[Purplenv]

We are now 3/22 for the pants, with our last two pair coming back to back . Out of the three we did get, 2 were when we only got 2 chests popped and the last one we got all 3 chests.

Wow, 3/22

THF opening the chests? TH4?

I just can't figure any way to influence the drop rate.
I'm always THF and I have opened every chest we have gotten.

[draxyl]

Try sacrificing goats/virgins/tarutaru's next time, I read on alla that those increase TH.

[Kuropiko]

1/26 for now, our pair dropped on the 23th mark.

Still a dumb question Khamsin, since i don't remember if it was answered or not, but did you try with Sneak on ?

I really don't see anything else since i do it all the time with Carbuncle and it works everytime. :/

It's just basically standing at 17 on Distance, Assault when Bubbly turns away so Carbuncle hits the captain just when Bubbly is as far as possible but not turned yet, the captain says "Huh ?! What ?" and then our MNKs Chi Blasts Bubbly and so on...

I can't think of anything you could be doing wrong except maybe Sneak (haven't a clue if it's needed or not) or maybe wrong timing.

Did you try pulling it with a ranged attack also ? Dunno if that would work.

[SassiAsura]

I believe Draxyl answered that on the previous page?

[Kuropiko]

I believe Draxyl answered that on the previous page?

That's why i said i didn't remember if it was answered already, hi2u lazyness.

Ninja'd : Read again Draxyl's post and unless i can't read he doesn't say anything about ranged attack pull.

[Khamsin]

1/26 for now, our pair dropped on the 23th mark.

Still a dumb question Khamsin, since i don't remember if it was answered or not, but did you try with Sneak on ?

I really don't see anything else since i do it all the time with Carbuncle and it works everytime. :/

It's just basically standing at 17 on Distance, Assault when Bubbly turns away so Carbuncle hits the captain just when Bubbly is as far as possible but not turned yet, the captain says "Huh ?! What ?" and then our MNKs Chi Blasts Bubbly and so on...

I can't think of anything you could be doing wrong except maybe Sneak (haven't a clue if it's needed or not) or maybe wrong timing.

Did you try pulling it with a ranged attack also ? Dunno if that would work.

I don't use Sneak or Sneak Attack, as people here have said they've done it without either.

My very first pull on the Captain was Dia, but every time thereafter was to run up and whack him in the back with a staff or sword. I wait close to the bottom of the curved steps behind him then run in when bubbly is behind him and is turning around. Sometimes I've tried from a little further, too. I've done it with flee and without. The only thing I haven't tried differently from time to time was the moment I choose to run in. However, the captain says nothing until he goes red after I've hit him with my staff, and he says "Huh? What are you doing here?!" I've never seen him once say "Huh? What?" like he's supposed to say.

Bubbly runs back and forth. When he gets to one side, he will turn toward you briefly, then run to the other side. I stand as close as I feel I comfortably can, engage, and then wait until Bubbly has stopped behind the Captain and turns to look at me, then run in while he is darting off to the other side. As I said, I've done this with and without flee (powder boots, activated ahead of time).

[Kuropiko]

Can't think of anything else then, i'm sorry. I'm just running out of ideas and i don't know shit about pulling it as a melee since i only did it with Carbuncle. :/

Keep us informed if you finally manage to do it, there has to be something.

[Khamsin]

Well, if all else fails, I could just go SMN... then we'd be

NIN WAR RDM SMN

instead of

NIN WAR RDM RDM

[Rocl]

go puppetmaster

[draxyl]

Much earlier in the thread, someone tried ranged attack...didn't work. Has to be either a normal melee attack or SA'd melee attack, without Bubbly seeing you first.

I honestly think SE just hates Khamsin, thats the only explanation I got....though like I said, I'll try to post a short 4 min video to Youtube later tonight that shows how to pull the captain correctly, starting from the moment you enter the BC till the captain is getting pulled to the main deck area. I captured the vid a few days ago, but its taking me days to transfer the raw .avi to an edited/compressed/posted form because I'm an xvid noob and I didn't have any of the software that I needed so I had to procure some.

[aurik]

I had no problem surprising the captain last night, first attempt at doing so.

We got boned on all 3 chests of course.

[draxyl]

How in fuck do you have 4500 posts...those legitimate, or did a certain mod bump your post count?

[aurik]

How in fuck do you have 4500 posts...those legitimate, or did a certain mod bump your post count?

Legit <_<

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

How in fuck do you have 4500 posts...those legitimate, or did a certain mod bump your post count?

Not only are they legit but on average they're probably longer and more detailed then most people's posts.