Ranged Attack change, info prz

[further]

Somebody post some pic's >.>

I wanna see some BRD and non-brd action before I take my RNG out of the closet....

Haha, I remember they day when I use to say "I will trade my 75 RNG in for a stack of sole sushi" lets see if I still feel that way.

Lucky bitch got RNG AF2 feet on a free lot too. Time to bring that lolRNG out of storage biooooootch.

[Sasarai]

Still waiting to see the 3.5k slugs to flys in the mire. I want to believe it's true I really do! Havent touched my rng in quite some time and am looking for motivation to suit up with all that gear I never sold and put it to use.

It always was possible >.> The update hasn't changed Rangers damage potential in the slightest, only makes it easier to accomplish, if you will.

The RNG nerf had many plus sides, among which were the bandwagoners and epeen elitists jumped ship to greener pastures. Heres hoping we don't see their return, RNG was all the better without them.

[Isiolia]

RNG nerf had the plus side of netting our hourglass mule (my second account) AF2 pants and feet uncontested >_>

(and yes he's 75 RNG)

[Rag]

Just got out of pt at mire for 3hours

My setup

Elvaan rng/war STR+36 + R.atk+75 using bison steak and hellfire+1 as a weapon (no acid bolts pt nin nin sam rng rdm smn)
Slug shot damage 2200 avrege (1800-2600 -effected when berserk is up or down mostly)
Distance didnt effected damage that much)
Without A BRD all brds were taken =/ i wonder how high it will be with miNUTX2 O.0

[Glade``]

The formula used to calculate ranged attack damage and accuracy based on the distance of the player from the enemy target has undergone an adjustment. This will ensure that the calculation will no longer largely eliminate the enhancements given by meals and equipment. Instead, the effects will be added directly to the player's attributes.

Has anyone else noticed that with increased Skill level, ACC has inreased ALOT? With only STR gear, I was able to land constant slugs even on thf mobs, and even from point-blank. Usually, I would have trouble landing slug on a thf with ACC gear. Update seems to have increased ACC a great deal from all distances and for all ranged weapon types, not only damage. Time to /toss my Acc build for slug?

[Dank]

Sounds like it. Are you Glade from Hades server?

[levish]

Just got out of pt at mire for 3hours

My setup

Elvaan rng/war STR+36 + R.atk+75 using bison steak and hellfire+1 as a weapon (no acid bolts pt nin nin sam rng rdm smn)
Slug shot damage 2200 avrege (1800-2600 -effected when berserk is up or down mostly)
Distance didnt effected damage that much)
Without A BRD all brds were taken =/ i wonder how high it will be with miNUTX2 O.0

Nin: "Did anyone see the fly the rdm was pulling?"

[Rag]

The formula used to calculate ranged attack damage and accuracy based on the distance of the player from the enemy target has undergone an adjustment. This will ensure that the calculation will no longer largely eliminate the enhancements given by meals and equipment. Instead, the effects will be added directly to the player's attributes.

Has anyone else noticed that with increased Skill level, ACC has inreased ALOT? With only STR gear, I was able to land constant slugs even on thf mobs, and even from point-blank. Usually, I would have trouble landing slug on a thf with ACC gear. Update seems to have increased ACC a great deal from all distances and for all ranged weapon types, not only damage. Time to /toss my Acc build for slug?

So true i kinda noticed how good my acc is...
my gear had +r.acc41 only and using attack food fighting T-VT at mire total missed slugshots 2 (ws with str gear lol) and missed like 6-7 shots norml hits only i think the reason why is very clear

They clearly said only skill will be effected by distance
RNG have freakin alot of acc traits which is not effected by distance now + the extra acc from your equip

RNG now = ownge

[levish]

The formula used to calculate ranged attack damage and accuracy based on the distance of the player from the enemy target has undergone an adjustment. This will ensure that the calculation will no longer largely eliminate the enhancements given by meals and equipment. Instead, the effects will be added directly to the player's attributes.

Has anyone else noticed that with increased Skill level, ACC has inreased ALOT? With only STR gear, I was able to land constant slugs even on thf mobs, and even from point-blank. Usually, I would have trouble landing slug on a thf with ACC gear. Update seems to have increased ACC a great deal from all distances and for all ranged weapon types, not only damage. Time to /toss my Acc build for slug?

269 base skill +16 markmanship from merits + acc bonus I -> IV traits I'd venture to say racc isn't very useful since you are probably close to or over the cap without factoring in eq. based on T/VT mobs

[Glade``]

Sounds like it. Are you Glade from Hades server?

I'm Glade from Hades if you're Dank from Blood Greaves/Gendawa+1/holy crap you actually use a shield sub war.

[Dank]

No clue what that means. I just asked because a friend named Glade migrated from Cerberus a long time ago.

[safer]

seems like from all these happy rangers, this patch is great...

what i'd like to know from some corsairs is how they have been holding up?

pre-patch i had like +100 r.acc(from gear alone, not counting traits) and eat only sushi (2 merits in marksmenship now)... slugs land more often then not, but usually i dont use it at 100%TP (closer to 150% is when i go)
but when the slugs do hit.. they're not overwhelmingly spectacular... last couple thickets pt's ive had i did peaks of 819 and 769~ slugs, with majority of them in 400-650~ range (depending if it was against puks/mamool/skoffins)

barrages are at 300~ or so if all hits land, which is rare,, even had 2 barrages fully miss =/

i wont get to try till maybe the weekend at best to merit, but would love to hear experiences from corsairs...
should really get my hands on a joyeuse now =<

[Glade``]

I see, I was mistaking you for a RNG who migrated to hades just before the nerf, Danks. Yeah I remember you Danknight, WHM from Cerb. We used to camp stoper chyme for hours, no?

[Dein]

seems like from all these happy rangers, this patch is great...

what i'd like to know from some corsairs is how they have been holding up?

pre-patch i had like +100 r.acc(from gear alone, not counting traits) and eat only sushi (2 merits in marksmenship now)... slugs land more often then not, but usually i dont use it at 100%TP (closer to 150% is when i go)
but when the slugs do hit.. they're not overwhelmingly spectacular... last couple thickets pt's ive had i did peaks of 819 and 769~ slugs, with majority of them in 400-650~ range (depending if it was against puks/mamool/skoffins)

barrages are at 300~ or so if all hits land, which is rare,, even had 2 barrages fully miss =/

i wont get to try till maybe the weekend at best to merit, but would love to hear experiences from corsairs...
should really get my hands on a joyeuse now =<

I haven't exped cor yet since the update, but if I ate meat and had a brd 2x minuet me I could do 1k+ to puks with Slug and around 800 to Mamools. My acc always tended to be around 50% though with meat despite /rng sub and r.acc gear so I'm hoping that's improved.

[Dank]

I see, I was mistaking you for a RNG who migrated to hades just before the nerf, Danks. Yeah I remember you Danknight, WHM from Cerb. We used to camp stoper chyme for hours, no?

Days. How ya been? Is Soulzguider still around? lol

[Po]

Wow this is really exciting. I had all but quit the game, but if this is really true and I can actually have fun on my Rng again (74), I would definitely stay. I just need to level my Axe and Dagger skill now <.<;

[Reality]

does anyone remember the WS Calc for ranged weapons, not the actual formula itself exactly, but I remember reading about a year ago how ranged weaponskills (specifically slug & side), have a more profound damage boost from the weapon itself, and not from the ammo, which lead people to believe that's the main reason why sidewinder (with ebow/kabura) generally hits higher numbers than slugshot (with HF+1/Silver), and the fact that STR is factored in twice in archery (str vs vit, and secondary modifier) is a distance second reason

perhaps thats why slugshot is so underwhelming compared to sidewinder, the base damage on marks weapons sans Obow is lackluster compared to even the generic end-game Bows

[Vertabreaker]

does anyone remember the WS Calc for ranged weapons, not the actual formula itself exactly, but I remember reading about a year ago how ranged weaponskills (specifically slug & side), have a more profound damage boost from the weapon itself, and not from the ammo, which lead people to believe that's the main reason why sidewinder (with ebow/kabura) generally hits higher numbers than slugshot (with HF+1/Silver), and the fact that STR is factored in twice in archery (str vs vit, and secondary modifier) is a distance second reason

perhaps thats why slugshot is so underwhelming compared to sidewinder, the base damage on marks weapons sans Obow is lackluster compared to even the generic end-game Bows

Are you referring to the secondary modifiers for the WS? Like side's is STR_16% AGI_25% while slug's is AGI_30%?

[amlaruil]

Ranged WS damage is essentially:

(Weapon Damage + Ammo Damage + fSTR2 + WSC)*constant factor

What was found was that fSTR2 was based solely off Weapon Damage (not Ammo Damage) so fSTR2 capped a bit higher for bows than guns (for E.bow vs Hellfire it's only a 7 point difference). Also, WSC for Sidewinder is based off your STR*.16 + AGI*.25, and Slugshot is only AGI*.30.

[Rag]

LOL
we just did limbus (And i got a brd at pt now)

Shortstory : after we ended everyone wanted to lv rng...)

rampges where doin 700-1000 (with a brd) From pimp wars while slugshot were doin...... 2400-2600 barrge 2000~2400 (with af+1 extra arrow) not vs flys mobs! i would imagine doin +3k vs flys XD

Rng just owns now specialy if you use STR/R.ATK gear +atk food+ berserk + brd songs XD

yes i didnt use any acc boost but i wasnt missing actully the acc boost is crazy good i did this area before and with full acc gear+atk food i were missing more than now (atk gear+atk food)