Fenrir Solo'd by a RDM - video link

[Nikopiko]

went back today, focused on pure INT and aquillos, only 2 got resisted. That's not bad, i guess i must not have shifted aquillos in the same macro. not bad tho, i mean i was still able to hold him off lol. Thank you tho for the video, it really was inspirational.

[Ksandra]

And as far as Ksandra...wow, do you play on PS2 or something? As far as Im concerned, things like TP, mob HP% are all things that should have been implemented into the game a LONG time ago. Just because SE came into the game with a horrible interface, does not mean its cheating if players build upon that interface and make it better and more intuitive. Hell all the info windower takes is already technically known by the player's PC anyway, so I dont see how you can call that a cheat.

Ninja Edit: Sorry...tired.

-.-; old thread, yes I play on ps2, and yes it was my opinion, and yes I don't care if people think otherwise, and yes I will continue to think of it the same way I have always thought of it, and yes I don't lose sleep at night just because I think plugins are cheating, and yes I don't even think about it unless asked, and yes I posted because the OP asked what rdms thought, and yes did I mention 3340934 times it was my opinion.

Now let's all hold hands and sing sons, I'm tired of trying to have to say it's just my opinion and still have it dragged on.

There's nothing wrong with thinking it's a cheat. If SE supported the use of plugins then I wouldn't care, but as long as they consider it against their policy then I consider it a cheat. I don't think I'm better than others it's just the way I look at it. Doesn't make me better or worse, just tired of constantly having to explain myself :/

[Vixy]

lol They used so many plugins. -.-;

Used that tp party thing, distance plugin which is a huge HUGE advantage. Windower macro program I think was in there too. And god only knows what else considering those.


You can call it jealousy if you want. I call it not giving hats off to cheaters.

I'm sorry but how long have you been playing this game? If you can't tell the distance without a mod I feel sorry. I've played with and without and it has not helped at all, only time I can truly say distance helped at all is as a bard with shitty pld tanks who don't know how to move for ballad.

[Ksandra]

lol They used so many plugins. -.-;

Used that tp party thing, distance plugin which is a huge HUGE advantage. Windower macro program I think was in there too. And god only knows what else considering those.


You can call it jealousy if you want. I call it not giving hats off to cheaters.

I'm sorry but how long have you been playing this game? If you can't tell the distance without a mod I feel sorry. I've played with and without and it has not helped at all, only time I can truly say distance helped at all is as a bard with shitty pld tanks who don't know how to move for ballad.

Read above post.

[Nikopiko]

served

[Vixy]

lol They used so many plugins. -.-;

Used that tp party thing, distance plugin which is a huge HUGE advantage. Windower macro program I think was in there too. And god only knows what else considering those.


You can call it jealousy if you want. I call it not giving hats off to cheaters.

I'm sorry but how long have you been playing this game? If you can't tell the distance without a mod I feel sorry. I've played with and without and it has not helped at all, only time I can truly say distance helped at all is as a bard with shitty pld tanks who don't know how to move for ballad.

Read above post.

Read again? I don't think I denied plugins are cheating. That has nothing to do with what I said.

[Rocl]

And as far as Ksandra...wow, do you play on PS2 or something? As far as Im concerned, things like TP, mob HP% are all things that should have been implemented into the game a LONG time ago. Just because SE came into the game with a horrible interface, does not mean its cheating if players build upon that interface and make it better and more intuitive. Hell all the info windower takes is already technically known by the player's PC anyway, so I dont see how you can call that a cheat.

Ninja Edit: Sorry...tired.

-.-; old thread, yes I play on ps2, and yes it was my opinion, and yes I don't care if people think otherwise, and yes I will continue to think of it the same way I have always thought of it, and yes I don't lose sleep at night just because I think plugins are cheating, and yes I don't even think about it unless asked, and yes I posted because the OP asked what rdms thought, and yes did I mention 3340934 times it was my opinion.

Now let's all hold hands and sing sons, I'm tired of trying to have to say it's just my opinion and still have it dragged on.

Women's opinions on video games are always incorrect.

[Ksandra]

And as far as Ksandra...wow, do you play on PS2 or something? As far as Im concerned, things like TP, mob HP% are all things that should have been implemented into the game a LONG time ago. Just because SE came into the game with a horrible interface, does not mean its cheating if players build upon that interface and make it better and more intuitive. Hell all the info windower takes is already technically known by the player's PC anyway, so I dont see how you can call that a cheat.

Ninja Edit: Sorry...tired.

-.-; old thread, yes I play on ps2, and yes it was my opinion, and yes I don't care if people think otherwise, and yes I will continue to think of it the same way I have always thought of it, and yes I don't lose sleep at night just because I think plugins are cheating, and yes I don't even think about it unless asked, and yes I posted because the OP asked what rdms thought, and yes did I mention 3340934 times it was my opinion.

Now let's all hold hands and sing sons, I'm tired of trying to have to say it's just my opinion and still have it dragged on.

Women's opinions on video games are always incorrect.

Unless they have the power to make you sleep on the couch!


And @ Vixy this sentence is key: "just tired of constantly having to explain myself :/" And yet you still tried to debate...

[Vixy]

And as far as Ksandra...wow, do you play on PS2 or something? As far as Im concerned, things like TP, mob HP% are all things that should have been implemented into the game a LONG time ago. Just because SE came into the game with a horrible interface, does not mean its cheating if players build upon that interface and make it better and more intuitive. Hell all the info windower takes is already technically known by the player's PC anyway, so I dont see how you can call that a cheat.

Ninja Edit: Sorry...tired.

-.-; old thread, yes I play on ps2, and yes it was my opinion, and yes I don't care if people think otherwise, and yes I will continue to think of it the same way I have always thought of it, and yes I don't lose sleep at night just because I think plugins are cheating, and yes I don't even think about it unless asked, and yes I posted because the OP asked what rdms thought, and yes did I mention 3340934 times it was my opinion.

Now let's all hold hands and sing sons, I'm tired of trying to have to say it's just my opinion and still have it dragged on.

Women's opinions on video games are always incorrect.

Unless they have the power to make you sleep on the couch!


And @ Vixy this sentence is key: "just tired of constantly having to explain myself :/" And yet you still tried to debate...

You just wrote an essay that can fit in one sentence. I wonder why you are tired of explainng. Well not an essay, but a few paragraphs but still has nothing to do with what I said.

[Not Kuno]

Unless they have the power to make you sleep on the couch!

Aha! That argument doesn't work against somebody single. A vital flaw in your plan.

[Ksandra]

Unless they have the power to make you sleep on the couch!

Aha! That argument doesn't work against somebody single. A vital flaw in your plan.

I must rethink my plan...or marry every guy that plays FF...

@ Vixy check the post dates, and this isn't the only "cheat" thread on the forums.

[Vixy]

Unless they have the power to make you sleep on the couch!

Aha! That argument doesn't work against somebody single. A vital flaw in your plan.

I must rethink my plan...or marry every guy that plays FF...

@ Vixy check the post dates, and this isn't the only "cheat" thread on the forums.

You downplay him for killing fenrir because he cheated with something that does not help anyone who has played the game for longer then a few months . The date it was said means nothing and why the heck do I care if theres other cheat threads? I know the definition of a "cheat" and I also agree that they are cheats, but that has nothing to do with what I'm trying to say. Distance plugin doesn't do shit that makes what he did anything less. That's it. It's not hard to gauge the distance between you and a mob.

Once again I'm not trying to say plugins are not cheats, ffs.

[Ksandra]

I give up as you don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

[Vixy]

I give up as you don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

Yeah, a whole lot of nothing.

[cassiraa]

Distance plugin doesn't do shit that makes what he did anything less. That's it. It's not hard to gauge the distance between you and a mob.

If it makes such a little distance why use it.
Certainly there must be a reason.

If it makes no difference, then it should be just as easy to say do it again with no windower macros, no distance plug in, and no TParty to see mob's HP% If it "doesn't do shit that makes what he did anything less," as you so eloquently put it, then why did he use them?

I wouldn't call it a "cheat" but it does make things easier. It lets you see things that the original design of the game did not allow you to do. In some people's books that is defined as a cheat. Apparently it isn't in yours. While doesn't make a difference in the nomenclature, it still affects his playing. But if you insist that it really doesn't make any difference, then have him do it without them and post THAT video. I look forward to it.

[Vixy]

Distance plugin doesn't do shit that makes what he did anything less. That's it. It's not hard to gauge the distance between you and a mob.

If it makes such a little distance why use it.
Certainly there must be a reason.

If it makes no difference, then it should be just as easy to say do it again with no windower macros, no distance plug in, and no TParty to see mob's HP% If it "doesn't do shit that makes what he did anything less," as you so eloquently put it, then why did he use them?

I wouldn't call it a "cheat" but it does make things easier. It lets you see things that the original design of the game did not allow you to do. In some people's books that is defined as a cheat. Apparently it isn't in yours. While doesn't make a difference in the nomenclature, it still affects his playing. But if you insist that it really doesn't make any difference, then have him do it without them and post THAT video. I look forward to it.

Because it's autoloaded I don't see the point of deleting or unloading every time because it's not a big deal
Btw go look at the last few posts. I said its a cheat, oh, 2 or 3 times? L2read

[Mysterio]

I give up as you don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

translation:

"I'm argueing with a retard, over a retarded topic"

[Tricen]

What I posted on the Ki thread was that even though the distance plugin doesn't give that big of an advantage, it's the fact that it'll escalate. INa few months it'll be "Everyone uses POS hacks it's ok now" or "Just because he doesn't have Wlegs, doesn't mean he can't use a 12% flee hack, I mean it's just like having Wlegs no big deal."

[Kirst]

If anyone is interested, a video of a rdm soloing Fen without any plugins...

http://files.filefront.com/FenrirSolowm ... einfo.html

[Tricen]

Yeah Fenrir blows... Closest I got was 46% and timed out... Stupid resists -_-