Endgame BST

[NynJa]

ok there buddy, I think you're severely mistaken how little you need in the way of skill or accuracy to hit a VT mob with sushi but so be it.

sushi + 200 skill weapon = +30 acc

[Ryko]

Your loosing way too much using sushi though. You might as well just use temp axe and eat meat instead.

The sushi wasn't my stipulation but you make a perfectly fine point (all DD's should be using meat in laughable exp areas like the mire anyway).

Hit on T pots in sky for Kirin TP build with BST Seiryu Sword back when we thought spirits was best idea, think I have a good idea.

You actually used spirits at any point after late 2005/early 2006? Alternatively, you used sushi to build that TP in the first place?

sushi + 200 skill weapon = +30 acc

Uh... grats and thanks for the math? I'm not trying to make it sound like sushi is god's answer to everything but rather trying to point out how laughably unevasive a mire exp mob is

[Runningdemon]

And I am pointing out how Man/Temp is better than any use of BST with Ridill.

[Belmoth]

So I guess Kraken Club on a RNG is a bad idea also cause the lol200 skill?

[aurik]

So I guess Kraken Club on a RNG is a bad idea also cause the lol200 skill?

Accuracy Bonus IV?

[Runningdemon]

No, the much greater swing rate is worth it.

[LinktheDeme]

Double attack stacks with temp axe and with brutal earring you could get 3 swings on occassion, but the activation on virtue weapons seems 1/2 on the weapons alone. Bsts get so shitty skill in sword too as well which i honestly wouldnt see the point of it. kinda like why nins do more dmg with katana then with kclub

[NynJa]

sushi + 200 skill weapon = +30 acc

Uh... grats and thanks for the math? I'm not trying to make it sound like sushi is god's answer to everything but rather trying to point out how laughably unevasive a mire exp mob is

You're the one saying that sushi can allow a bst to use ridill in mire...

Using meat with 285 dagger skill I still need to equip accuracy gear to hit mobs there. My skill alone translates to 278 acc before gear. Ridill BST using sushi w/out accuracy gear is getting 230 acc. That 50 accuracy has to come from somewhere...


Yeah, Mire mobs are pretty unevasive, but they're not exactly
http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/200..._poltoys04.jpg

[Ryko]

The picture you attempted to post is cached for you and therefore not viewable by the rest of us (and the blocking image is misspelled also).

Edit: It got fixed

You're the one saying that sushi can allow a bst to use ridill in mire...

Well you'll have to excuse me for using a thief with a ridill in uleguerand (with sushi) being able to keep up on damage and accuracy well enough to pull 12k/hr at a stationary camp as some sort of standard for lowcapping with the weapon... accuracy is far from the issue, if you want to contend that hit for hit you might as well do maneater/temperance with meat in the mire as opposed to temp/ridill then feel free but otherwise lol no.

[Runningdemon]

I do want to contend, BST can't hit the broadside of a barn with sword, even with sushi, go get 75 BST and prove me wrong.

[Ryko]

*sigh* Telling me to get a job to 75 to prove its capabilities is shooting yourself in the foot but if you say so.

[Runningdemon]

And talking with no experience in the situation is a preferable idea, makes sense to me.

[Ryko]

It's laughable to think that "low cap weapon + sushi" done by other jobs doesn't apply to beastmaster, you don't have an acc+50 job trait. Mainhanding a dagger in lufaise on my warrior even with agressor down and haste gear predominately (and yes it's a valid comparison due to the fact that while you have a 240 cap on dagger as a warrior the mobs there cap on exp quite a bit higher than imps and flies do), I was able to hit them more than reliably. A thief offhanding the same weapon in uleguerand hit fine with it. I'm sorry, does calling carrie suddenly give you a flash status? Coulda fooled me.

[Quicklet]

Using meat with 285 dagger skill I still need to equip accuracy gear to hit mobs there. My skill alone translates to 278 acc before gear. Ridill BST using sushi w/out accuracy gear is getting 230 acc. That 50 accuracy has to come from somewhere...

I was always under the impression that 1 skill = 1 acc. Is it different?

[aurik]

Using meat with 285 dagger skill I still need to equip accuracy gear to hit mobs there. My skill alone translates to 278 acc before gear. Ridill BST using sushi w/out accuracy gear is getting 230 acc. That 50 accuracy has to come from somewhere...

I was always under the impression that 1 skill = 1 acc. Is it different?

Skill beyond 200 adds approx 0.9 acc each.

[Runningdemon]

Yes, 240 dagger is a valid comparison to 200 sword, your logic is flawless.

[shinobi_tabi]

Using meat with 285 dagger skill I still need to equip accuracy gear to hit mobs there. My skill alone translates to 278 acc before gear. Ridill BST using sushi w/out accuracy gear is getting 230 acc. That 50 accuracy has to come from somewhere...

I was always under the impression that 1 skill = 1 acc. Is it different?

Skill beyond 200 adds approx 0.9 acc each.

turn it into a nifty ?/256 number like everyone says SE uses often lol
<.<

[Ryko]

As for about 50 acc.

2x Sniper +1, 14
Adaman Hauberk, 15 + 5 with dex converted. (34)
PCC 10 (44)
Sting 2 (46)
Haidate 7 (53)
Assault earring (55)

Doable while still leaving all the conventional slots for haste open.

Yes, 240 dagger is a valid comparison to 200 sword, your logic is flawless.

221 on weaker mobs vs 240 on mobs higher than it want me to pull some extra acc out to even things up a little bit more?

[Runningdemon]

Where is this 221? What merits/gear are you getting 21 extra sword from? Even considering a BST would merit Sword over Axe is verging on as ridiculous as this whole lolRidill arguement.

[Ryko]

16 from my 8 sword merits and 5 from my suppanomimi? Assuming very well that the BST wasn't given the ridill for his bst to begin with (which is a safe one to make) and had a much more capable melee job that they likely built around the weapon. Fine fine, "a ridill warrior turned BST", how's that.