King Behemoth today. . .

[Aodh]

Easiest explanation would probably be that SE expected Rage to kill everyone within a period of time so that's all they set rage to last. Did the NIN Mijin die or beaten to death?

[Juvant]

A few weeks ago on Fairy when KB was killed cfh it got raged by an inexperienced LS and was eventually cfhed in rage mode. It never went passive but after 20 minutes or so of running around hitting people for 800-1k dmg it started hitting for normal damage again. Maybe rage only lasts a certain amount of time, I'm pretty certain it never went passive.

Any HNM will lose it's rage mode if everyone on the hate lists dies or logs off, but that NIN and BLM +some members outside the claiming LS still has hate and KB was running all over the dominion.

Not true as I've seen when Niddy raged, it went passive but not long enough to regen a tick and was still raged when another shell claimed.

[EchiEchi]

imo the "rage" system seems to be rather iffy. We've seen a raged aspid kill the entire ally, then immediately be claimed and rage mode was off. It took it a little less than 10 minutes to kill off that whole ally. I've never seen a raged mob go more than 20 minutes max, from people trying to kill it, others claiming and tagging it etc etc.

Sounds buggy

[Cat]

Easiest explanation would probably be that SE expected Rage to kill everyone within a period of time so that's all they set rage to last. Did the NIN Mijin die or beaten to death?

Didnt mijin, because he managed to hit mijin instead of voke when it was at ~15% later into the fight :wink:

[Aodh]

imo the "rage" system seems to be rather iffy. We've seen a raged aspid kill the entire ally, then immediately be claimed and rage mode was off.

lolRagedTurtle

[Tordall]

Rage turns off when they've killed everything on their hate list, or 15 minutes passes.

It used to be that once a king went into rage mode everyone that was trying to spam provoke to claim the mob would stop, and back away slowly. They'ld rather let the raged NM kill off the LS that's fighting it and leave the rage mode before claiming, since claiming a 'raged' king was a way to get your own LS killed off (doesn't kill all linkshells).

[Cat]

As a member of the linkshell who killed KB, i think i can explain what happened.

Well, i logged on(late -.-), and arrived in BD when KB was at 49%, and our solo nin had hate. The rest of the linkshell had logged off and on, and were sitting in the tunnels wondering wtf we should do.

A blm with no hate joins up with the nin and does nothing to get hate. Nin eventually dies. Blm uses Bio 2.

I assume that when our nin died, hate got reset and super mode lost. Yet a monster always stays red for a few seconds to party members?

Anyway yeh, i have no idea what happened beforehand, the above is more of a guess than anything.

W head.

When your NIN died and your BLM casted BioII KB killed a couple of people from outside your LS with 1200-1700dmg Wildhorn (SSJ/hyper mode didn't reset I'm 100% sure).
It reset before/during/after the Nether Blast ...how? we don't know.

I'm pretty sure only the nin and blm had hate on it at the time it went unsuper. It was a 2 man party with claim, and after our blm got hit for only 300 damage, we figured super was off, and invited the rest of the ally.

Very wierd KB.

[raziel]

Yeah was wondering same thing shit was wierd cause KB never went passive or lost hate just plain reset. Also Jhun that nid I voked after he went passive for about 3 seconds and didnt have aggro on anyone and didnt reset.

[Lordwafik]

IDK seems hella strange, but KB is definitely killable while raged...with some luck (ES and spirits within <.<)

Once on asura a JP LS got him down to like 10%, then at 5 to rage, another LS stole it, then it was just a huge KS fest, at the end my LS at the time snagged it at 1% and just went to town, he was still 1 shotting us all, but I managed to CS+Thunder3 and kill it.

[neophytal]

seems quite interesting.

[Merryck]

As a member of the linkshell who killed KB, i think i can explain what happened.

Well, i logged on(late -.-), and arrived in BD when KB was at 49%, and our solo nin had hate. The rest of the linkshell had logged off and on, and were sitting in the tunnels wondering wtf we should do.

A blm with no hate joins up with the nin and does nothing to get hate. Nin eventually dies. Blm uses Bio 2.

I assume that when our nin died, hate got reset and super mode lost. Yet a monster always stays red for a few seconds to party members?

Anyway yeh, i have no idea what happened beforehand, the above is more of a guess than anything.

W head.

When your NIN died and your BLM casted BioII KB killed a couple of people from outside your LS with 1200-1700dmg Wildhorn (SSJ/hyper mode didn't reset I'm 100% sure).
It reset before/during/after the Nether Blast ...how? we don't know.

Is it possible that maybe rage didn't reset because Bio was still in effect? Maybe, in order for rage to end, all status effects inflicted during the fight where he entered rage mode have to have worn off. That might explain why sometimes a mob's rage dies right after going unclaimed and being claimed by another group, but sometimes it stays in rage mode for a longer period of time. During those longer periods of time, it's possible that the DoTs from the initial group are still in effect.

[Aviry]

We started to log off & on about five min before super mode to reset our hate. The five ppl (me pld, smn, blm, 2boxed whm, rdm) who claimed and held it after RMT wiped like one minute into the fight lost hate while our nin who came later kited it with a blm & i think a rdm. A few ppl of the ls who tried to steal it (their nin voked w/o shadows up and got two-shotted, while our nin was kiting) still had hate though and got killed whenever KB got angry-angry.
I made a second alliance with all ppl who logged on back after I got raised (RMT was spamming tractor on me while our whm tried to raise a few times). Our nin & blm who kited it at the same time in another two-cat alliance both died during super mode once at some point though, and I guess those ppl of the other ls who still had hate either got killed or logged out during super mode.

[Sidanoir]

Early on after they implemented the rage mode patch....

A pretty uber JP LS, claiemd KB with 6 or 7...at like 1 hour mark it was at 40%?...short after it started hitting extremely hard...and it progressively got stronger....hit for 1000 instead of 800..bolts for 400...

They kept damaging it with ES IV spell which did full damage..and dots...their PLD was great at using the natural terrain in behemoths dom to keep from getting hit...also they had melee get TP and spirits it, it did full damage..

At around 15%? it got ugly for them a bolt meteor raped em...they had like 3 people left up but were not wiped....it went yellow and some fucktard claimed it with dia...and warped....didnt call for help...when the claim he had with dia reset rage was gone....the PLD ended up dying...and they had 2 other ppl left alive, but they were mages without movement up....the rest of them home pointed..it went yellow again finall and my LS claimed and killed..

I have to be honest it was really pretty amazing what they did, too bad we ended up killing it lol..I hate that LS they are anti-NA, but gotta respect their skills

[Tekki]

Early on after they implemented the rage mode patch....

A pretty uber JP LS, claiemd KB with 6 or 7...at like 1 hour mark it was at 40%?...short after it started hitting extremely hard...and it progressively got stronger....hit for 1000 instead of 800..bolts for 400...

They kept damaging it with ES IV spell which did full damage..and dots...their PLD was great at using the natural terrain in behemoths dom to keep from getting hit...also they had melee get TP and spirits it, it did full damage..

At around 15%? it got ugly for them a bolt meteor raped em...they had like 3 people left up but were not wiped....it went yellow and some fucktard claimed it with dia...and warped....didnt call for help...when the claim he had with dia reset rage was gone....the PLD ended up dying...and they had 2 other ppl left alive, but they were mages without movement up....the rest of them home pointed..it went yellow again finall and my LS claimed and killed..

I have to be honest it was really pretty amazing what they did, too bad we ended up killing it lol..I hate that LS they are anti-NA, but gotta respect their skills

I didnt read through the rest of the thread so if this was said already I apologize.

The rage patch does nothing for a good LS. Even on Faffnir, as long as you got ur ESs you can kill him just fine. KB is easier with a good kiter. I havent seen a raged Aspi but I can guess he is just of a pushover.

That said, its not worthless. The rage patch does its job of getting rid of holding problems or worthless LSs claiming kings.

[Cat]

Sorry, but a 900 damage wing through stoneskin isn't -nothing- for a good linkshell.

[Tekki]

KB is easier to see zerk due to the sheer number of people/RMT that try to kill it. But most wipe and someone picks up the piece. Now Faffnir, its a rare zerg b/c mostly just the server elitists hang in DA. But when it does Ive seen most of those zerged Faffnirs killed by the original claimers or even post claimers who take it zerged. Actually the very first Faffnir zerged I saw was killed +10min after the full zerg mode. ES sleep, nuke, ES sleep nuke etc...

Ill say it again, zerg patch doesnt do anything for a good LS. Just tells you to hurry the fuck up.

[Delekii]

Early on after they implemented the rage mode patch....

A pretty uber JP LS, claiemd KB with 6 or 7...at like 1 hour mark it was at 40%?...short after it started hitting extremely hard...and it progressively got stronger....hit for 1000 instead of 800..bolts for 400...

They kept damaging it with ES IV spell which did full damage..and dots...their PLD was great at using the natural terrain in behemoths dom to keep from getting hit...also they had melee get TP and spirits it, it did full damage..

At around 15%? it got ugly for them a bolt meteor raped em...they had like 3 people left up but were not wiped....it went yellow and some fucktard claimed it with dia...and warped....didnt call for help...when the claim he had with dia reset rage was gone....the PLD ended up dying...and they had 2 other ppl left alive, but they were mages without movement up....the rest of them home pointed..it went yellow again finall and my LS claimed and killed..

I have to be honest it was really pretty amazing what they did, too bad we ended up killing it lol..I hate that LS they are anti-NA, but gotta respect their skills

I didnt read through the rest of the thread so if this was said already I apologize.

The rage patch does nothing for a good LS. Even on Faffnir, as long as you got ur ESs you can kill him just fine. KB is easier with a good kiter. I havent seen a raged Aspi but I can guess he is just of a pushover.

That said, its not worthless. The rage patch does its job of getting rid of holding problems or worthless LSs claiming kings.

KB and Aspid yes, but Fafnir on Rage is no joke

[Tekki]

but he doesnt resist ES sleep >.>

[Cat]

Sleep lasts a minute possibly?

You have 10 ES's at your average fafhogg?

[Shuemue]

Sleep lasts a minute possibly?

You have 10 ES's at your average fafhogg?

ES+Sleep II is 90 seconds.