Final Fantasy 12 :OMG Discussion Thread

[Epical]

Decided to delete and post in here, seems to be a more popular topic :D

I had a nice legit question- when I got Penelo into my party the first time, I had Vaan at level 4. She joined the party, and while she was a little lower on the exp, she was at lvl 4.

So my question is: Do other characters progress while you do? As in, if I level Vaan to lvl 8 and I get Penelo back into my pt, will she be lvl 8 as well?

No. When new characters join your party, they are around the level you should be, or the enemies become fair game. For instance when Balth/Fran joined, they were level 9 or something, and Vaan was level 8 at the time.

Lets say you don't touch Balth/Fran until you beat the game, they'll still be level 9 and you'll be level 100 (or whenever this game caps).

[Skyylya]

2 posts up - Yes, before i got Penelo first time i was lvl 8, when she joined so was she, however i think this only is the case the first time you meet someone. I've played through the beginning twice, both times my guest's were different levels compared to what i was, except for basch, he was lvl 12 both times i got him the first time.

1 post up. Go to the westersand, chain 20 wolves, with the 20th being in the small area in the northeast section where the two wolves are and he'll spawn right after you get the chain 20 on wolves.

When you spawn him you gotta steal it from him, it's kinda random. first one i got was on like the 6th try, 2nd one took like 20+ steal try's and the 3rd one i got was on first try. Balthier was the one who stole the first two and basch the last one. Vaan missed every time. (these are the 3 i'm using.) If you don't do it, and his opening move hurts you, just zone out, heal yourself then zone back in and try again, he won't depop if you don't zone out to far.

I just got 3 gladius for my party, all around lvl 11-12

[Sonomaa]

Hey Sonomaa, that Killer Bow you sought after for so long? I'm doing Rocktoise hunt right now, stopped at a treasure and got it 8)

edit: Holy shit it's Aspid. He's even uncamped like Aspid!

except I got it at like level 11ish (then died and got it again) so you can get it kinda early

[BerenTebogo]

So I just bought Berserk..

Used it on the second wall, no quickenings or anything, 2 berserked players = dead in under 15 seconds.

I'm in love.

[Lbelle]

Can you buy tele stones?

[Vixy]

Can you buy tele stones?

Go to the vendor on the airship.

[Brandson]

From the Dalmasca Eastersand Gate Crystal, go South, then turn to South-East,
there is a small area, use your Barheim Key to unlock that door to enter Barheim Passage.


Now, go to the small area on the map with the Gate Crystal and save, from there go to the south (Great Central Passage), then west and take the LOWER path to the "Special Op Sector 5" area, in this area are pretty high lvl monsters at this point, but you don't need to fight them so flee past them all and past the turtle there is a rock next to the rail tracks, near this rock is usually one of those frog monsters. Behind this rock there is a chance for a SILVER chest to be there with a purple center, careful cos this is a Rare Monster, but it's the one we want for our weapon. If it's not there, just zone back to Great Central Passage and go to the upper path (East-West Bypass) to the west, then enter back into Special Op Sector 5 and keep doing this till it shows up.

Now, you should have been fleeing past the other monsters to get here, briefly let go of flee to pop the chest to make the Rare Monster appear, flee and take it to the zone where you came from (the Rare Monster won't stop following you, but the other monsters will).
heal yourself from the damage and go back in, the Rare Monster will still be near the zone line and this is when we get our weapon.
Set all your characters to STEAL STEAL STEAL, eventually you will get the Deathbringer (1h Sword 90ATK On Hit: Death).

This is a great tip for money-making early on (my party ranges in level from 14 to 20). Not only can you steal this sword, but there are also 3-4 other chests in the room that all have up to 3k gil in them (usually 1-2k each). If you repop those chests while you're doing this, it's easy to get around 5k each time. I'm using this to buy up some Lores right now. Thanks!

[Eaglestrike]

I don't think the KO effect can proc on bosses but whenever I was fighting Wary Wolf (lvl 35ish mob) I insta-killed him with my sword so the KO shizz works on NMs

Golden Amulet thing:
and if you're to the point where you got the dawn jewel thing you can run to the safe point in Masphosfer Highwaste and buy em there... to get there you ride the ferry to the northern sectio of the Estersands then just keep hiking north

that's where I'm getting mine

Sweet, thanks. Gonna burn my last teleport stone to go back for my hike.

After you do the first part in bunnyville the moogle there sells them too. Earliest you can get one is by doing the Enkelados hunt.

I totally didn't know you could buy stones anywhere until the item vendor in Balfonheim near that gate crystal was selling >.> I was holding back on hunts so I didn't run out of teleport stones for so long <.<

[Silka]

I totally didn't know you could buy stones anywhere until the item vendor in Balfonheim near that gate crystal was selling >.> I was holding back on hunts so I didn't run out of teleport stones for so long <.<

I kinda did the same thing- can steal them pretty easily from bats so I'd go farm them up if I wanted to port around... then I just decided to play around on the airship and there they were selling some. ._. They had some hi pots I was desperately low on too. >_>; Had been looking for them since the Clan's bazaar stopped selling them ; ;

I just got the special strat guide today- (Balthier cover <3 Kinda wanted Basch but I'm happy with it) that art book is suppossed to come out of that box right? >_>; Mine is stuck or something- already screwed up the spine trying to pull it out xD I'm gonna feel dumb if it's not suppossed to come out though. ;P

[Eaglestrike]

Rank III Ring Wyrm is a dirty whore.

He took a while to kill, I finally killed him after I put in Gambits to keep pro/shell on and put in a regen gambit (anyone hit with sap after being taken below 80% will have regen cast on them, it removes sap and gives regen) The key to this guy for me was Blind though, it helped a lot. Lowering his damage output let me deal more damage, he started spamming breath at low health but it was ok.

Also, for some people farther along, when was the lowest you beat Vyraal? (he's a hunt) I just did at 41 and I'm feeling proud and cocky, someone knock me down saying they beat it at 23 or something, thanks.

[deviousone]

Just to touch up on the Mist Quickenings from 3-4 pages ago, yeah they cost a lot of MP but through my progression of the game (to the end) i noticed they helped A LOT. Lots of bosses and Mob Hunt mobs in this game go into Berserk mode towards the last 25%, where your attacks do half the dmg, and the mob themselves start doing huge dmg, Mist Quickenings can really ease that situation if you can get a nice Chain Combo going.

May be spoiler, its about one of the mob hunt mobs: A good example is the Morbol Mob Hunt, Carrot. He spams his many breathes to the point whoever has hate will be killed. Mist Quickening after he gets to his spam phaze = death2u Carrot.

Of course if your characters are overlvl'd for whatever fight, it doesn't matter. But wheres the fun in this game with over lvl'd characters?

[BerenTebogo]

I just popped Velius for the first time as a summon, I didn't notice any timer or anything, all I noticed was extreme over-poweredness.

How long do they stay out?

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Any endgame worthy GKTs? Just got Kotetsu and I'm all nostalgic lol (SAM was first job to 75 waaaay back in the day)

[Lbelle]

I just popped Velius for the first time as a summon, I didn't notice any timer or anything, all I noticed was extreme over-poweredness.

How long do they stay out?

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Any endgame worthy GKTs? Just got Kotetsu and I'm all nostalgic lol (SAM was first job to 75 waaaay back in the day)

They stay out until they die, or until their summoner dies. And if they get critical HP they do their "ultimate" move, which does a lot of damage to whatever it's fighting, but it also makes the summon die too.

[MisterBob]

I just popped Velius for the first time as a summon, I didn't notice any timer or anything, all I noticed was extreme over-poweredness.

How long do they stay out? :x

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Any endgame worthy GKTs? Just got Kotetsu and I'm all nostalgic lol (SAM was first job to 75 waaaay back in the day)

They stay out until they die, or until their summoner dies. And if they get critical HP they do their "ultimate" move, which does a lot of damage to whatever it's fighting, but it also makes the summon die too.

Actually there are many different things that trigger moves on different Espers. Some of the early ones are Critical HP, yes. However, many are not. Zodiark will trigger when the summoner is petrified, Ultima will trigger when both the summoner AND the Esper are in critical, Exodus triggers when he is Critical + Immobilized, etc etc.

[Lbelle]

Is there a way I can make absolutely sure that my quickenings will AOE instead of targeting just one thing? By targetting just one hting I got royally fucked over on the Shrine boss...

Maybe this game is too hard for me

[BerenTebogo]

Unconfirmed::::

but what I've noticed, is to make it burst (AoE) if you're doin 3 way combo have to at least all use 1 of the same level once, like say you start off with pyrochasm (lv3) and ashe uses lv 3 but basch doesnt lv3, i dont think it will burst.

I've had 7 hit combos that didnt burst cuz of the above, I cant be 100% sure though.

[Koul]

I was kinda let down with the Quickenings... they all kinda look the same-ish =/

well I've only seen Balthiers, ashes and penelos so... those three look the same-kinda-ish only their lvl 1 ones too

[deviousone]

Any endgame worthy GKTs? Just got Kotetsu and I'm all nostalgic lol (SAM was first job to 75 waaaay back in the day)

Yeah the final GKT is pretty nice if you equip it on someone with Mystic Armor and such, since GKT dmg is based on Magic Attack.

They stay out until they die, or until their summoner dies. And if they get critical HP they do their "ultimate" move, which does a lot of damage to whatever it's fighting, but it also makes the summon die too.

There actually is time for how long a summon can be out. If your summon is out too long you'll get a big "TIMES UP" screen if the crystal like things at the bottom of the screen go out.

Is there a way I can make absolutely sure that my quickenings will AOE instead of targeting just one thing? By targetting just one hting I got royally fucked over on the Shrine boss...

Usually if not; 100% of the time, if your Combo is 7+ hits your combo will make a Elemental burst and it will be AoE. So its all in the luck/how much MP your characters are starting with in the Quickening combo/how fast you can click R2 to shift for more chances of Mist.

[BerenTebogo]

GKT based on MAB to the point where I'm doing 300 a swing on 32 MAB, switch to 46 MAB mage and it would be more worthwhile? don't want to waste all the LP til I'm sure haha

[Skyylya]

when does the damn ferry to the north side of the river start working. I'm done with the first judge and have asche in my party. How much more do i have to do before i can finish doing the errand/quest for danto's wife?