Will the IGE holiday sale happen again (dec)

[Lordwafik]

I'm simply looking forward to the Christmas Jeuno music. :D

Go do Dynamis-Tavnazia!

<3 That zone is so nuts. I think they should change the last ??? to wedding music, since now you go dynamis > christmas > summerfest > nothing

[vagus]

I'm simply looking forward to the Christmas Jeuno music. :D

Yes!

There will be a bit of inflation, but nothing like last year.

[HAcoreRD]

People holding out until Christmas to sell their gear are ultimately going to be screwed because (on my server at least) we're on a strong deflation trend and I don't see any reason why it will stop any time soon.

deflation trends are almost never continuous. Just because there is a deflation trend, it doesn't mean it will stay that way. Inflation during Christmas time is possible and very likely for that matter.

Take a look at a picture of the business cycle if you don't believe me.

Prices were like they are on my server last year too. Xmas came, bam, people began quitting cause of prices.

[Rocl]

People holding out until Christmas to sell their gear are ultimately going to be screwed because (on my server at least) we're on a strong deflation trend and I don't see any reason why it will stop any time soon.

One reason is because the economy is deflating faster than gil is exiting the system due to artificial sinks like RMT hoards. When they break the seal and all that cash comes gushing out things are going to correct upwards.

you have single handedly made me glad im holding onto 3 dusk gloves and a hauberk for inflation >_>

HAUBERGEON?

ps: I personally hate the jeuno christmas music tbh

[Tomino]

the major inflaction we're having right now comes, imho, from ppl quitting while few new players are getting in the picture. the Xbox360 release had had a minor impact on servers (many already quitted) not like the EU release did almost two years ago.

in time, everyone will have a SH and no newbie will be interested in buying one because there won't just be a newbie anymore.

[spooky]

I sold my Black Cloak for 2M on Shiva, and then brought it back a few months later for 200k. :D <3 x-mas. Weskits went up to about 20M LOL. This year I'm just going to rape all my BLM gear for massive profits and play in AF till March.

[HAcoreRD]

the major inflaction we're having right now comes, imho, from ppl quitting while few new players are getting in the picture. the Xbox360 release had had a minor impact on servers (many already quitted) not like the EU release did almost two years ago.

in time, everyone will have a SH and no newbie will be interested in buying one because there won't just be a newbie anymore.

there'll be newbies, just that our standards will rise for gear


I'll be the first to say it.

LOLSH

[Alastaire]

in-game prices will go up, but nothing like they did last year.

The Barone gear exploit assraped the economy, no doubt.... i've heard of people getting caught/banned for it back then, but I don't know anyone personally. anyone know of somebody on their server who got banned for it? because i don't see how it can be a TOS violation.

I think the were considering it under the part of the TOS that says something like "if you find an exploit in the game you should report it immediately, and leave it alone/not exploit it." While it's easy to argue that "I didn't know it was an exploit, I just thought the NPC wanted to buy back his item for more than he's selling it for!", I think, given the obvious results that could/did come of it, it's pretty evident right away that it's not SUPPOSED to be like that, and it is in fact a mistake/exploit.

[Veli]

I sold my Black Cloak for 2M on Shiva, and then brought it back a few months later for 200k. :D <3 x-mas. Weskits went up to about 20M LOL. This year I'm just going to rape all my BLM gear for massive profits and play in AF till March.

That wont happen again. You can decent BLM gear from assault this year for 20k points and last year you couldnt. Inflation wont happen again like last year. The game has changed alot since last year and I dont expect a major price hike like last year.

[Aladwar]

ps: I personally hate the jeuno christmas music tbh

At least its a change from the same damn music we hear all year. ;/

[HAcoreRD]

in-game prices will go up, but nothing like they did last year.

The Barone gear exploit assraped the economy, no doubt.... i've heard of people getting caught/banned for it back then, but I don't know anyone personally. anyone know of somebody on their server who got banned for it? because i don't see how it can be a TOS violation.

I think the were considering it under the part of the TOS that says something like "if you find an exploit in the game you should report it immediately, and leave it alone/not exploit it." While it's easy to argue that "I didn't know it was an exploit, I just thought the NPC wanted to buy back his item for more than he's selling it for!", I think, given the obvious results that could/did come of it, it's pretty evident right away that it's not SUPPOSED to be like that, and it is in fact a mistake/exploit.

I would've thought it was miss interpretation. An exploit to me would be the AV wall trick, or let's say, falling under the ground to avoid aggro or whatever. I didn't know of the Barone thing at the time, but if I was able to buy them and sell them back, I would've done so until I was as rich as everyone else who did it. My defense, if it's possible in the game, it's not cheating. Tough luck to those who got banned, kudos to those who got away with it.

[Blueshawk]

i laugh more at the idiots preparing to make hoards of cash by investing now when in reality they are going to end up losing money when everyone else floods all the markets and undercuts each other

[HAcoreRD]

i laugh more at the idiots preparing to make hoards of cash by investing now when in reality they are going to end up losing money when everyone else floods all the markets and undercuts each other

Oh, you see it coming too? i'm buying what I need, and i'll sell it if the price raises atleast 50%.

[Plow]

People holding out until Christmas to sell their gear are ultimately going to be screwed because (on my server at least) we're on a strong deflation trend and I don't see any reason why it will stop any time soon.

One reason is because the economy is deflating faster than gil is exiting the system due to artificial sinks like RMT hoards. When they break the seal and all that cash comes gushing out things are going to correct upwards.

You seem sooooo certain that rmt are "hoarding" gill to release on the economy at some random (or not so random) point... I don't get it.

Have you noticed how there's 10-20+ autumnstones in rolanberry all the time lately? Not to mention that while they were 20m about 3 months ago, then 10m about 2 months ago, then 7m about a month ago, and now about 5m each...

Did it ever occur to you that rmt just aren't making as much money? That these bans really might be eliminating huge amounts of gil?

I mean if gil is $5/mil, and a SH is 20 mil, that's theoretically $100 bucks the rmt can make per v claw. If gil is $25/mil, and a SH is 4m, that's still $100 per v claw.

It's not like it somehow helps rmt to dramatically raise prices, unless they can get gil to remain stable while item prices rise, which, clearly, they can't. If gil is $25/mil, and a sh is 20m, that's $500 per vclaw... but nobody's going to pay that. (Well ok some people but not enough to sustain a multi-billion-dollar company's interest.)

[Blueshawk]

i laugh more at the idiots preparing to make hoards of cash by investing now when in reality they are going to end up losing money when everyone else floods all the markets and undercuts each other

Oh, you see it coming too? i'm buying what I need, and i'll sell it if the price raises atleast 50%.

prices may increase slightly, but i highly doubt it because of everyone trying to make mad cash again this year.

[Daahan]

the major inflaction we're having right now comes, imho, from ppl quitting while few new players are getting in the picture. the Xbox360 release had had a minor impact on servers (many already quitted) not like the EU release did almost two years ago.

in time, everyone will have a SH and no newbie will be interested in buying one because there won't just be a newbie anymore.

Damn that inflaction! I'd rather have inflation than inflaction since that damn inflaction so damn nasty!

[Kurohyou]

Did it ever occur to you that rmt just aren't making as much money? That these bans really might be eliminating huge amounts of gil?

Or maybe they have all the gil they need and they're still trying to make it at prices people will actually pay.

Furthermore, the people who make the gil and the people who hold the gil to sell are often different sets of people.

[Demetrick]

Skipping ahead. I'm banking on the inflation this year. I have some nice items that could sell for a reasonable amount now that will sell for a whole lot better after inflation. Then I'll be rich, rich as nazi's.

[Daahan]

Actually this Christmas can really interesting.

After witnessing last years price-spike, I'm pretty sure many people are going to predict the inflation and try to make some profit off of it.

But I also wonder if there will be enough undercutters to cancel out the effect? I doubt it though, I still think the inflation will rise during the gil-sales.

Say tuned to find out what happens folks!

[TsingTao]

I invested in a couple things that will at least hold their value. If there's a spike I'll make some profit. If there's no big spike I should at least be no worse for the effort.

/shrug. We'll see what Christmas brings. I expect a small surge, but nothing like the insanity of last year.