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**Overburn** · 2009-08-12 01:30

Originally Posted by Kerberoz

Symbolic of idling in BD with a bot instead of actually playing? I don't understand why king gear is supposed to have a "positive" status associated with it.

Because having gear from a mundane, generally easy event with random drop rates is so much more impressive? Both hold about the same level of status effect imo. Only reason D.ring might be higher is because of it's rarity, but it's usually "nice PLD, oh and a D.ring? cool".

**Yugl** · 2009-08-12 02:38

I honestly cannot see why people on FFXIAH forums act as if Ridill is some destructive (Lol @ Endgame gear) item. If you're a WAR, and you're doing EG, you better be using G Axe. If you're a DRK zerging, you might as well pick up a Kris. If you're a SAM, get a mannequin. If you're a BST, you're not doing EG. THF probably can use it for places where non-piercing damage mobs (Apollyon...?). RNG are better off with K Club or Staff/Grip. In short, the uses of Ridill are far more limited than that of D Ring.

While I agree that 5mil may not be enough gil to buy the item (Because members or HNMLSs can also be morons *surprise!*), I think the second post is more laughable than the OP. Especially his lolSAM/RNG information bar.

**Random Hero** · 2009-08-12 03:48

Spent days down in that damn grotto. It sucks but you can't always expect to get something the first time you camp it. That's just the way this game works.

**Seedz** · 2009-08-12 06:39

Originally Posted by Raenryong

I would argue D.Ring has maintained its value far better than Ridill since the issue with Ridill is not that it is bad, which it isn't -- it's a very powerful weapon. It's the fact that it is incredibly difficult to get vs readily obtained generally superior options (meaning Perdu Voulge etc) that leads to it being seen as kind of crappy nowadays.

D.Ring is still unsurpassed as far as overall damage reduction goes.

Indeed, nothing comes close to D.ring whereas Ridill has those alternatives. However, D.ring isn't the shit anymore, because you're not blood tanking most of the time. I'd argue it does even less for an Aegis PLD/NIN though, so I may be biased, since you're already at the MDT cap with Shell V. I'd use it on really a few of my gear sets, namely Terror set, Ichi set, Ni set, Shield skill set, Idle not melee set and perhaps on a solo set. Some years ago you'd be nearly full timing that ring cause you'd be /WAR most of the time, and -10% on physical hits is a lot.

Of course if you tank stuff as /RDM, D.ring is an excellent piece to idle in. And, again, let me state that I'd put my dick in a D.ring if I could, but I'm just being realistic now and saying it'd be more a status symbol than a practical item.

Originally Posted by Yugl

If you're a WAR, and you're doing EG, you better be using G Axe.

In places where /NIN is "required", a good Ridill user will outdo a Perdu user. /NIN and Great Axe is just not as strong as people make it out to be, and a properly geared and meritted Ridill warrior will definitely do more damage. You probably have never seen a proper Ridill WAR I would assume. (note that I completely agree that you should be using Gaxe on HNM, I'm mostly referring to situations like Dynamis, Limbus, Einherjar, lolNyzul, lolSalvage, some things in sea and some things in lolsky, which comprehend a good portion of the endgame activities in FFXI).

In short, D.ring and Ridill are both luxury items whose use is not gamebreaking enough to justify spending 3-6 hours a day camping the NMs that may or may not drop them, specially when there are alternatives which are easier to get (Perdu) or when you realise the game has changed enough to take away some of the luster they had.

**Yugl** · 2009-08-12 12:43

Originally Posted by Seedz

Indeed, nothing comes close to D.ring whereas Ridill has those alternatives. However, D.ring isn't the shit anymore, because you're not blood tanking most of the time. I'd argue it does even less for an Aegis PLD/NIN though, so I may be biased, since you're already at the MDT cap with Shell V. I'd use it on really a few of my gear sets, namely Terror set, Ichi set, Ni set, Shield skill set, Idle not melee set and perhaps on a solo set. Some years ago you'd be nearly full timing that ring cause you'd be /WAR most of the time, and -10% on physical hits is a lot.

Of course if you tank stuff as /RDM, D.ring is an excellent piece to idle in. And, again, let me state that I'd put my dick in a D.ring if I could, but I'm just being realistic now and saying it'd be more a status symbol than a practical item.

In places where /NIN is "required", a good Ridill user will outdo a Perdu user. /NIN and Great Axe is just not as strong as people make it out to be, and a properly geared and meritted Ridill warrior will definitely do more damage. You probably have never seen a proper Ridill WAR I would assume. (note that I completely agree that you should be using Gaxe on HNM, I'm mostly referring to situations like Dynamis, Limbus, Einherjar, lolNyzul, lolSalvage, some things in sea and some things in lolsky, which comprehend a good portion of the endgame activities in FFXI).

In short, D.ring and Ridill are both luxury items whose use is not gamebreaking enough to justify spending 3-6 hours a day camping the NMs that may or may not drop them, specially when there are alternatives which are easier to get (Perdu) or when you realise the game has changed enough to take away some of the luster they had.

I've seen plenty of good Ridill WARs in action, and I have to disagree with a few complaints in your post:

1. WAR is perfectly capable of using sub SAM in some of those events you listed (Namely T1/T2 Einherjar, one of your non-tanking WARs can sub SAM).

2. A previous thread provided information suggesting that G Axe triumphs over Axe/Ridill even when using sub NIN.

3. You have to fix your merits to make Ridill competitive with G Axe WAR. This means taking away from G Axe merits (Though you can have four if you're WAR ONRY).

4. Lets assume (2) is false, and your statement is true; is it worth severly gimping your damage on HNMs (Especially when you're in a HNMLS, hence why you're camping Fafnir) in order to compete on par or slightly better than G Axe WAR (The latter is just an assumption to favor your argument).

5. PLDs aside, mages can use D Ring for standing sets (As much as people will criticize this notion). Other than that, it's a nice "WTF" macro for PLDs. I get your point if you're good at blink tanking though.

6. For WAR, the new Pixie Weapons are also an alternative if you get DMG+6 STR+5? and DA.

**rog** · 2009-08-12 13:04

Originally Posted by Yugl

3. You have to fix your merits to make Ridill competitive with G Axe WAR. This means taking away from G Axe merits (Though you can have four if you're WAR ONRY).

You could always go 8 sword, 8 GA, and use rid/joy instead of man/rid, since it's better anyway. The sheer dot increase more than makes up for the minimal difference between rampage and vorpal. Ridill is certainly a situational item, but it can definitely still be better, particularly on lower level mobs, such as merit mobs, or lower.

**Yugl** · 2009-08-12 14:23

What about Polearm merits then? I would think that has much more use than Ridill since it's viable in anti-slashing or bonus piercing situations.

**rog** · 2009-08-12 14:45

Originally Posted by Yugl

What about Polearm merits then? I would think that has much more use than Ridill since it's viable in anti-slashing or bonus piercing situations.

Well, you're screwed there, unless you want to put the last 4 in polearm. Eh, even if it's not ideal for war onry, a pld, or maybe a blu would want sword merits anyway, and if you have the merits, it can certainly be better for some things. And even without sword merits, i'd still use it over GA for weaker things like nyzul, or farming.

**meeeeeep** · 2009-08-31 09:27

lol'd hard at this, I love incompetence.

ok, so i just 20 mins ago got hacked... - Forum - FFXIAH.com

**Despain** · 2009-08-31 10:09

Wow they actually got someone with that shit? Anyway, people never cease to amaze me.

**Boko** · 2009-08-31 10:28

Look at this awesome 1-hit build for campaign only.

Weapon: Soboro
Grip: Rose Strap +20
Head: Champion head thingie +4
Body: Shinimusha Hara Ate +9
Hands: Hachiman Kote+1 +9
Legs: Shinimusha Haidate +6
Feet: Usukane Sune-Ate +7
R.ring: Rajas Ring +5
L.ring: Echphoria Ring +1
R.ear: Atilla's Ear. +1
L.ear: Brutal Earring +1
Back: Bushido Cape +1
Waist: Swift Belt
Neck: Chivalrous +1
Trait: +25
Merits: 5

Food: Spaghetti Marinara (+7)

Grand Total: 102% TP after 1 swing?

Based on the rose strap and the avaliable equipment what would be the best setup for a campaign build as a SAM/DNC?

My items listed above are just stuff I found and are by no means ideal to any situation. (that and im terrible at working out anything to do with maths and that prolly doesnt equal 102% tp at all!)

But yea can any expert give any information on any ridiculously silly campaign battle setups because of the new 20 STP rose strap?

To be fair to the rest of alla posters, the people who posts dumb stuff like this usually get flamed there pretty badly too.

**Boko** · 2009-08-31 10:34

Here is a compilation of the "dumbest of the dumb" on alla. Listed are tons of really bad suggestions made by Alla users directly to SE on how to improve FFXI.

Allakhazam.com: Final Fantasy XI

**Drex** · 2009-08-31 11:27

I like how my nerf lizards joke thread made it in there, and about a month later lizards got nerfed

AND NO ONE COMPLAINED

**TybudX** · 2009-08-31 12:38

Originally Posted by Boko

Look at this awesome 1-hit build for campaign only.

To be fair to the rest of alla posters, the people who posts dumb stuff like this usually get flamed there pretty badly too.

Oh god, that's why I saw some guy shouting for Bushido cape and Attila's earring.

**Rida** · 2009-08-31 13:04

Originally Posted by Boko

Look at this awesome 1-hit build for campaign only.

To be fair to the rest of alla posters, the people who posts dumb stuff like this usually get flamed there pretty badly too.

lmao wut? seriously wtf? lol