Yeah Iron go fuck yourself. I don´t update my ffxiah.com Item sets too often because I dont give 2 shits about faggots like you checking it. Also @ the Loquacious on PLD town gear is town gear or you think I wear Argent Coat when I do shit with it?
If you would actually use ur brain you´d see that everything I can use Atonement for I use a "melee" build and everything I can´t use Atonement for I idle in Loq/Ethereal. Yeah you´d probably idle in Hades Earring+1 because enm+ does so much there. Again go fuck yourself.
YOUMAD VIRGIL?
Someone's mad.
You're the one that called me out: Stay out of the goddamn kitchen if you can't stand the heat.
nonetheless though, brb, growing up![]()
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HAI GUYZ BOKO IS TEH C00L AND IRONGUY IS TEH GAIZ! HE SHOULD BE KILLED AND STUFZ CUZ YER ALL SO C00L FOR MACKIN FUN OF OTHER FORUMZ0RZ CUZ YER ALL SO AUSUM!!11!
Fucktard. Get a god damn life and shut the fuck up. Leave our forums alone, and we'll leave you alone.
Ratfucks.
Inorite?
I was just trying to stick to that good ol' BlueGartyr Spirit.
EDIT: I like how Boko is under the impression everyone should be the next Vawn and be shittily geared with a relic. Aparently, even though I saw the thread with all of you reaming his ass, he claims you're all agreeing with this sentiment. All i can say is, "Have fun with your gimped relics~"
Byrnie+1 for YGK is pretty much the worst justification of 3M I've heard of since White Tathlums became popular amongst morons <_<
Assuming attack is uncapped on a particular mob, even with zerk/food/etc, Byrnie+1>Askar>Haub+1>Osode>Domaru for HNMs, but you also aren't going to use Byrnie+1 to TP in as most would a Haub+1. Haub+1 is worth 3M for 8%~ hitrate during TPing, not specifically because of STR+6 Att+12 for YGK, you can just get an Askorazin for that. If you're at the point that you're spending 3M on 12 attack (maybe 5 damage increase total?), you should just begin investing your gil into something that will pay higher dividends (Amano).
Which he's IS going for now that he has just about everything else... A relic with craptastic gear is a waste of time, it's pretty pointless disputing that.
Relic = last upgrade for DD's. Don't be Vawn, people.
Don't be Vawn...
And thus buying a Byrnie +1 before he can use Kaiten, rather than after, is apparently wrong... even though he benefits from it now as well as later? Ok, greater benefits after he completes Amano, but still.
Not saying one should Y/G/K in Byrnie +1 all the time, this is clearly not the case, but I don't follow your logic.
Using the 3M towards actually being able to use Kaiten is of much greater concern, unless you really can't find another Byrnie+1 after you get Amano. (I'm not entirely sure of its particular rarity as it's something I never check on). It's hardly the case of gimping yourself to obtain your relic, as every SAM should have a Haub/+1 or at least Askar body (both more than suffice for YGK on the 3 mobs that your attack won't be capped) lying somewhere if you're anywhere near the point that even thinking about a relic is a reality. It's the case of needlessly spending 3M on something prior to it being particularly worth the gil spent when considering what else the gil can be spent on.
tl;dr: Yes, it is the best piece for YGK in an extremely small number of cases, but the margin by which it is the best is not worth the 3M pricetag that could and should be spent on 6 Dyna sponsors, especially considering that the alternative piece to use for YGK against those mobs should already be owned. Fuck I guess this wasn't much shorter.
So when your attack is uncapped on HNMs and thing of that sort (which he mainly deals with) it's better to use Domaru (8str right?) over 6str and 25 attack. This makes no sense.
And why you have Domaru in front of osode i have no clue, your giving up 2str in return of nothing.
Edit: He has haub+1/Osode/Byrnie+1 and throws gil into anything he wants for samurai. 3 mil is hardly anything to get hyped about. I don't know where your arguement is going.
Edit edit: what are the only 3 mobs that he will fight where attack is uncapped? That's news to me that you cap attack on everything, nearly.
It depends on how much gil you're willing to save too. The guy seems like he'll be working on Amano, but personally, I would never consider a relic before any upgrade since it's just not in my interest to save vast amounts of gil.
Nobody ever said that was true. Use what's appropriate given capped or uncapped attack.
I'd guess JOL and Kirin are two of them, don't know about the third. YGK Attack bonus means you'll be at or damn near Attack capped on nearly everything, 3 might be fewer than the truth but not by much as Gekko in particular goes.Edit edit: what are the only 3 mobs that he will fight where attack is uncapped? That's news to me that you cap attack on everything, nearly.
I see where Knyghtmayre is coming from, though it's certainly not Iron's approach from what I've gathered.