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    Fixed you spell checker you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie
    Fixed you spell checker you.
    Sorry Sorry :D I'm usually the one who does those typo

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    I was at work on the phone. I swear half the time I don't even listen to people due to internet.

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    Now that was a really good episode.

    It's kind of sad they killed Mr Eko, as he was probably one of the best guy, and the last person (with Bernard) coming from the rear of the plane still alive... but his story is really well made.
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    I'm kind of thinking eye patch man is Razinski(sp).
    It can't be him, as he shot himself, and there's a brown stain somewhere on the dome in the hatch. Can't remember the dude's name, but the old guy says so in Lost 223.

    As for the smoke, I was like "Wow, so they did not forgot about it!". Note how it only appears to the faithful people: John and Eko.
    They both saw the smoke twice (when John saw it face to face, and when it tried to kill him in Lost 124), and both times, it tried to / did kill someone.

    Another thing, you can now guess all the halucinations of everyone were indeed "real":
    - Jack and his dad.
    - Shannon and Walt.
    - Kate and the black horse.
    - Hugo and his imaginary friend.
    - John and Boone.
    - Mr Eko and his brother.
    Can't remember of any other at this moment, but pretty sure more occured.

    Shannon died soon after meeting the fake Walt, Hugo almost did as the fake imaginary friend tried to convince him to kill himself, John was supposed to be dead (when the smoke tried to kill him), and Mr Eko died. Can't remember if the "Smoke / fake Jack's dad" tried to kill him. We can also guess the Smoke do test them, to see if they're good people. Dunno, just some random thoughts.

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    I hated the way Eko died. It seemed really forced. My guess is the producers had bigger plans but much like Anna Lucia's character they were forced to write him out of the script due to his off screen behaviour (drink driving offences etc). I really liked Eko's character being the biggest representation of religion on the island, and I was sure his travelling to London would link into Charlie's past now. And he will never get his brother's church finished now either

    As for the Juliet thing, I suspect that maybe the whole of Jack's situation is a social experiment into obedience/morality. The story of needing him for an operation is convenient, but then why were Kate and Sawyer also taken? This also fits in with the basis of the Hanso Foundation/Dharma Project. The bystanders suddenly joining in was really kind of an obvious attempt at breathing new life, but I guess they don't really have an option. I agree with Radzinski being the most likely candidate as eye patch man too ;o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harutaru
    The story of needing him for an operation is convenient, but then why were Kate and Sawyer also taken?
    I assumed that was just leverage against Jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbelle
    Lost has always had repeats mid season, and I always thought it was pretty retarded. I hope Heroes doesn't do anything like that... :\
    people got spoiled by 24 with its new episode every week til the season's over XD

    btw, does anybody else feel that juiliet's tv messages aren't really telling the truth either? >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRT
    Quote Originally Posted by Lbelle
    Lost has always had repeats mid season, and I always thought it was pretty retarded. I hope Heroes doesn't do anything like that... :\
    people got spoiled by 24 with its new episode every week til the season's over XD

    btw, does anybody else feel that juiliet's tv messages aren't really telling the truth either? >.>
    It's Lost.
    Nothing is the truth.
    ITS NOT A TUMAH ITS A TIME BOMB!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie

    Shannon died soon after meeting the fake Walt, Hugo almost did as the fake imaginary friend tried to convince him to kill himself, John was supposed to be dead (when the smoke tried to kill him), and Mr Eko died. Can't remember if the "Smoke / fake Jack's dad" tried to kill him. We can also guess the Smoke do test them, to see if they're good people. Dunno, just some random thoughts.

    Might have been the real Waltz, or maybe not, but that kid has strange power already. First time she met him in an hallucination, he was saying "dont push the button" or something like this backward. Also, didnt the Other asked Michael if something, Waltz was at place he wasnt suposed to be?




    As for the Juliet thing, I suspect that maybe the whole of Jack's situation is a social experiment into obedience/morality. The story of needing him for an operation is convenient, but then why were Kate and Sawyer also taken? This also fits in with the basis of the Hanso Foundation/Dharma Project. The bystanders suddenly joining in was really kind of an obvious attempt at breathing new life, but I guess they don't really have an option. I agree with Radzinski being the most likely candidate as eye patch man too ;o

    Anyone know if those bystander were actually used as bystander before, or they are really comming out of nowhere? Also, anyone has any idea how many people are left? There was 40 survivor, and like 10 died? 15ish are known




    btw, does anybody else feel that juiliet's tv messages aren't really telling the truth either? >.>
    Yeah, like I said earlier, I'm almost certain it's just a way to force Jack to operate him, knowing he wont be able to kill a man on an operation table. But true or false, there is no way to figure what the producer have in mind. Everything can go both way with them. Just think about the button and the 2nd hatch that said first one was an hoax.


    One thing i wonder about Ben is why you see him at the airport in Locke's flashback. It might be for the flashback only, but if he was there, it means the whole thing was setup a long time before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    One thing i wonder about Ben is why you see him at the airport in Locke's flashback. It might be for the flashback only, but if he was there, it means the whole thing was setup a long time before.
    Wasn't that in a hallucination in the vision tent, not a flashback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrd
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    One thing i wonder about Ben is why you see him at the airport in Locke's flashback. It might be for the flashback only, but if he was there, it means the whole thing was setup a long time before.
    Wasn't that in a hallucination in the vision tent, not a flashback?

    Yeah, it was the hallucination. However, everyone seem to act normally like they did in the airport, and Ben was a security guard or something (forgot the actual scene). I just thought it was weird for him to be there.


    Another question is why are Other so strong? Ben owned Sawyer so bad in his cell, and Ethan or whatever was his name owned Jack badly while carrying Claire in first season. They arent immortal, but wtf did they eat to be so strong.

    There is also that scene where they shot Sawyer on the cheek after drawing his weapon really fast. How

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    I believe Jul's "message" on the TV is a test. You know how they always say the are the "good ones", maybe they are testing Jack to see if he is truly good or bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Quote Originally Posted by Byrd
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    One thing i wonder about Ben is why you see him at the airport in Locke's flashback. It might be for the flashback only, but if he was there, it means the whole thing was setup a long time before.
    Wasn't that in a hallucination in the vision tent, not a flashback?

    Yeah, it was the hallucination. However, everyone seem to act normally like they did in the airport, and Ben was a security guard or something (forgot the actual scene). I just thought it was weird for him to be there.


    Another question is why are Other so strong? Ben owned Sawyer so bad in his cell, and Ethan or whatever was his name owned Jack badly while carrying Claire in first season. They arent immortal, but wtf did they eat to be so strong.

    There is also that scene where they shot Sawyer on the cheek after drawing his weapon really fast. How
    The Airport scene wasn't a flashback, but more like a clairvoyance. In the vision, you see Desmond with 3 pretty hot girls, in pilot suit. We all know it's not possible that Desmond could have been in the airport in these conditions. The whole clairvoyance vision was just a metaphore, or whatever you call that, just to say that Ben had power and control over Jack/Sawyer/Kate.

    Now, the Others aren't (so) strong. Ben kicked Sawyer's ass because the poor guy is being hold in a cell, almost starving, and he thought he had a pacemaker, so even if he could have strike back, I doubt he wanted his heart to explode.
    Ethan just knew how to fight, and he had the advantage on Jack at this time. If I remember correctly, Jack was exhausted. You will also probably remember how Jack own'd Ethan when they caught him (when Charlie killed him), so he wasn't so strong, just he had the advantage at one point.

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    Now, the Others aren't (so) strong. Ben kicked Sawyer's ass because the poor guy is being hold in a cell, almost starving, and he thought he had a pacemaker, so even if he could have strike back, I doubt he wanted his heart to explode.
    Ethan just knew how to fight, and he had the advantage on Jack at this time. If I remember correctly, Jack was exhausted. You will also probably remember how Jack own'd Ethan when they caught him (when Charlie killed him), so he wasn't so strong, just he had the advantage at one point.
    The peacemaker part was after. Sawyer caught him by the arm and tried to electrocute him. Tired or not, Ben still owned him badly for a guy who has a tumor. He isnt the type who look good at fighting either

    When Jack got Ethan, it was a surprise attack, I dont remember him owning him so bad, but again, it's been 2 years since I watched those episode.

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    To answer the OP, they killed off Mr. Eko because the actor had asked to leave. Both of his parents died recently and he wanted to return home or something. Heard this on G4's "The Feed" a couple days ago.

    Anyways, yeah that's likely the reason they forced his death. The show has always hinted at being sci-fi but managed to pull back to reality. Gonna be interesting to see what direction it takes now.

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    I just sat through season 1, 2, and all 5 current episodes of season 3 of lost. This show makes me fucking CRAZY. If I started watching the show from day one, I would have shot myself in the face from some of those cliff hangers.

    I was pissed that Eiko died too, he was a really good character. I'm really excited now about the next episode but then no new episodes till Feb? That's going to be painful.

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    If anyone watched Jimmel Kimmel on Fri/Sat night (I forget), Michael Emerson (Ben) was on it.

    They showed a clip from 3x06, it was pretty intense.

    To sum it up Jack was telling Ben that he should of been operating on him yesterday, he could die within a week, yadda yadda.

    Ben says "Ok great then we'll get started"

    Jack throws the papers at him and says something like "I never said I was going to do it, I just wanted you to know how you are going to die" and it cuts out.

    And as far as the Radzinski(sp) being dead. Its just a brown stain, Kelvin could of simply made that up.

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