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    Quote Originally Posted by PussPuss
    FFX and FFX-2 were complete garbage IMO.

    If you are so sure that people will hate the game after they finish why do you try so hard to convince people the game is bad before they finish it themselves? I'm all for having an opinion but you're just trying to convince people the game that you rushed through sucks.

    The fact that you claim you're all about story but keep harping on about CG cutscenes is laughable. FFVI is still my favorite FF so far and by far. It had the deepest story and very developed characters. Guess what? No CG cutscenes. Stating how cut scenes are cooler when comparing storylines is the most idiotic point that could be made.

    When I finish FFXII, I'll let you know if I like it or not. So far on my FF hate list is FFVIII, FFX and FFX-2. So far with the FFTA tie-ins the story seems to be developing well, it may all fall apart at the end though, I'll find out for myself.
    JUST WOW looool
    When did i included the CGS as a main story thing?
    What i said the story fail and the CG is just a diffrent story becouse the game happen to have a crapy CGS ideas and bad soundtracks also these got nothing to do with the storyline

    CGs almost dont effect story at all its just a bouns
    You people are weird >.>

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    Re: This game fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    And about that galka replays i wont replay to him since he say some random none sense stuff will let someone else with him not me since he like to argue with my points with none sense stuff and joke around
    REPLY, NOT REPLAY YOU DUMB FUCK
    NONSENSE, NOT NONE SENSE YOU FUCKING RETARD
    USE PERIODS FOR CHRIST SAKE


    I don't give a fuck if these are "stupid internet forums", and you're "not in school", if you make grade one spelling errors and neglect to use punctuation to seperate sentences in a paragraph, people are going to think you are a joke. In this case, we allready know you are a joke, and you are merely reinforcing our point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    You should go read the thread again when did i said im a ffx FANBOY
    you should read my post again, i said you SOUND like cos your preference is FFX

    Thats one of your lies i never sounded as a ffx fan
    [quote:95f8b] I didnt say there is no worthy enemy as a monster smartguy
    At ff12 There isnt realy 1 worthy enemy >.>
    k cos that completely clarifies your point /endsarcasm

    Seems like someone missed this part
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag

    i didnt say there is no worthy enemy as a monster smartguy i ment as villain like [Sephiroth-seymoure-etc lists go on]

    and i did do the side stuff and everything i got the game since 26OCT ~ so keep the none sense for yourself
    so you're telling me...that you've played the game for A WEEK and you've completed the story, done ALL the "side stuff and everything" which means all the mob hunts, all the side quests, all the optional bosses, all the espers, done the whole bestiary, filled the Sky Pirate Den, gotten Tournesol. sorry but that's just a plain lie it took me 2 months to do all that. and don't come to me now saying "lol when did i say this" cos i just quoted it and summarised your statement.

    Feel the power of people with no life!

    i dont care about it im intersted with the main game charcters and the world not the monsters i wanna see events happen
    this just completely contradicts what you just said in your previous statement

    Not realy you sure does say stuff that make none sense and you make a good lier

    And when did i say i like FFX graphic more than FFXII? CG and gameplay graphic is diffrent story so dont say punch of BS i never said
    you said it here:

    about the CG thingy yes FFX CG way better a million time than FFXII
    FFX CG

    -Yuna dancing there was pretty effects and song it was emotional atleast
    -freaking awsome CG opening
    -charcters looks awsome in CG [lulu/auron/yuna/rikku etc]
    -CG does "matter" like sin attack when the city got destroyed + goin into new city you get to see the whole place/ppl
    -FFX CG is too good to even question it or count them k? go play it
    you also say it does matter, so don't try and say a bunch of BS

    Quote Originally Posted by Rag

    And when did i say i like FFX graphic more than FFXII? CG and gameplay graphic is diffrent story so dont say punch of BS i never said

    Till then thats my last replay im talking with people who is pure fanboys so its pointless
    I'll say it again smartboy gameplay grahpic and CG is totaly diffrent things
    FFX CG>FFXII Gameplay graphic FFXII>FFX /waiting for your new lies and galka none sense


    i'll just do a reply that's similar to yours, lol when did i say i was fanboys go read the thread.
    it's pointless talking to a troll too. hope we don't see you again ^^[/quote:95f8b]

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    Re: This game fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    I regret the 60hours i wasted on this crapy game
    The game was released four days ago, approximately 96 hours ago. If you spent 60 hours of a possible 96 playing FF12, of course you're going to fucking hate it. Assuming you got 7 hrs of sleep those three nights you've owned it, that means you've spent 60 hrs of 75 awake hours on FF12.
    Read older replays i didnt get it 31 oct i got it like 4-5days earler and i wasnt the only one who got it early

    i was playing like 10hours a day >.>

    And about that galka replays i wont replay to him since he say some random none sense stuff will let someone else with him not me since he like to argue with my points with none sense stuff and joke around
    1. i'm not a galka lol, i'm elv
    2. so your points are far superior to mine, even though yours have been beaten dead to the ground and disproven? my points are not nonsense, they are facts that you only try to ignore to defend your personal opinion
    3. stop trying to defend watching child porn in the other thread, it's sickening
    4. someone ban him already lol

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    Re: This game fail

    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    And about that galka replays i wont replay to him since he say some random none sense stuff will let someone else with him not me since he like to argue with my points with none sense stuff and joke around
    REPLY, NOT REPLAY YOU DUMB FUCK
    NONSENSE, NOT NONE SENSE YOU FUCKING RETARD
    USE PERIODS FOR CHRIST SAKE


    I don't give a fuck if these are "stupid internet forums", and you're "not in school", if you make grade one spelling errors and neglect to use punctuation to seperate sentences in a paragraph, people are going to think you are a joke. In this case, we allready know you are a joke, and you are merely reinforcing our point.
    And you think i care what crap you say? lol

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    Re: This game fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    I regret the 60hours i wasted on this crapy game
    The game was released four days ago, approximately 96 hours ago. If you spent 60 hours of a possible 96 playing FF12, of course you're going to fucking hate it. Assuming you got 7 hrs of sleep those three nights you've owned it, that means you've spent 60 hrs of 75 awake hours on FF12.
    Read older replays i didnt get it 31 oct i got it like 4-5days earler and i wasnt the only one who got it early

    i was playing like 10hours a day >.>

    And about that galka replays i wont replay to him since he say some random none sense stuff will let someone else with him not me since he like to argue with my points with none sense stuff and joke around
    1. i'm not a galka lol, i'm elv
    2. so your points are far superior to mine, even though yours have been beaten dead to the ground and disproven? my points are not nonsense, they are facts that you only try to ignore to defend your personal opinion
    3. stop trying to defend watching child porn in the other thread, it's sickening
    4. someone ban him already lol
    I knew you were goin to come with more none sense stuff
    i didnt defend shit go read what i said again smartguy "not quate 1line and ignores the rest"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    You should go read the thread again when did i said im a ffx FANBOY
    you should read my post again, i said you SOUND like cos your preference is FFX

    Thats one of your lies i never sounded as a ffx fan

    on the contrary, read your previous posts continuously hailing FFX

    [quote:91937] I didnt say there is no worthy enemy as a monster smartguy
    [quote:91937]At ff12 There isnt realy 1 worthy enemy >.>
    k cos that completely clarifies your point /endsarcasm

    Seems like someone missed this part
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    seems like someone keeps trying to avoid previous statements
    i didnt say there is no worthy enemy as a monster smartguy i ment as villain like [Sephiroth-seymoure-etc lists go on]

    and i did do the side stuff and everything i got the game since 26OCT ~ so keep the none sense for yourself
    so you're telling me...that you've played the game for A WEEK and you've completed the story, done ALL the "side stuff and everything" which means all the mob hunts, all the side quests, all the optional bosses, all the espers, done the whole bestiary, filled the Sky Pirate Den, gotten Tournesol. sorry but that's just a plain lie it took me 2 months to do all that. and don't come to me now saying "lol when did i say this" cos i just quoted it and summarised your statement.

    Feel the power of people with no life!
    go kill yourself already

    i dont care about it im intersted with the main game charcters and the world not the monsters i wanna see events happen
    this just completely contradicts what you just said in your previous statement

    Not realy you sure does say stuff that make none sense and you make a good lier
    did you read any of that? or even understand it with your grade 1 english?
    And when did i say i like FFX graphic more than FFXII? CG and gameplay graphic is diffrent story so dont say punch of BS i never said
    you said it here:

    about the CG thingy yes FFX CG way better a million time than FFXII
    FFX CG

    -Yuna dancing there was pretty effects and song it was emotional atleast
    -freaking awsome CG opening
    -charcters looks awsome in CG [lulu/auron/yuna/rikku etc]
    -CG does "matter" like sin attack when the city got destroyed + goin into new city you get to see the whole place/ppl
    -FFX CG is too good to even question it or count them k? go play it
    you also say it does matter, so don't try and say a bunch of BS

    Quote Originally Posted by Rag

    And when did i say i like FFX graphic more than FFXII? CG and gameplay graphic is diffrent story so dont say punch of BS i never said

    Till then thats my last replay im talking with people who is pure fanboys so its pointless
    I'll say it again smartboy gameplay grahpic and CG is totaly diffrent things
    FFX CG>FFXII Gameplay graphic FFXII>FFX /waiting for your new lies and galka none sense

    you keep calling me a galka cos i have one in my sig? talk about judging books by their cover. and yes you did say FFX CG is better than FFXII, but you never said anything before about gameplay graphics before. and obviously which do we play more? the CG or the gameplay? the gameplay of course! stop trying to avoid that

    i'll just do a reply that's similar to yours, lol when did i say i was fanboys go read the thread.
    it's pointless talking to a troll too. hope we don't see you again ^^[/quote:91937][/quote:91937]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    You should go read the thread again when did i said im a ffx FANBOY
    you should read my post again, i said you SOUND like cos your preference is FFX

    Thats one of your lies i never sounded as a ffx fan

    on the contrary, read your previous posts continuously hailing FFX

    Thats a lie

    [quote:24c24] I didnt say there is no worthy enemy as a monster smartguy
    [quote:24c24]At ff12 There isnt realy 1 worthy enemy >.>
    k cos that completely clarifies your point /endsarcasm

    Seems like someone missed this part
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    seems like someone keeps trying to avoid previous statements
    i didnt say there is no worthy enemy as a monster smartguy i ment as villain like [Sephiroth-seymoure-etc lists go on]

    [quote:24c24]and i did do the side stuff and everything i got the game since 26OCT ~ so keep the none sense for yourself
    so you're telling me...that you've played the game for A WEEK and you've completed the story, done ALL the "side stuff and everything" which means all the mob hunts, all the side quests, all the optional bosses, all the espers, done the whole bestiary, filled the Sky Pirate Den, gotten Tournesol. sorry but that's just a plain lie it took me 2 months to do all that. and don't come to me now saying "lol when did i say this" cos i just quoted it and summarised your statement.

    Feel the power of people with no life!
    go kill yourself already
    its mmorpg forum everyone have no life! and this post and the one before it clearly i wasnt joking! i mean its FF game i gota make time for it and ignores other stuff duh

    i dont care about it im intersted with the main game charcters and the world not the monsters i wanna see events happen
    this just completely contradicts what you just said in your previous statement
    no it did not

    Not realy you sure does say stuff that make none sense and you make a good lier
    did you read any of that? or even understand it with your grade 1 english?
    my english is 3 grade

    And when did i say i like FFX graphic more than FFXII? CG and gameplay graphic is diffrent story so dont say punch of BS i never said
    you said it here:

    about the CG thingy yes FFX CG way better a million time than FFXII
    FFX CG

    -Yuna dancing there was pretty effects and song it was emotional atleast
    -freaking awsome CG opening
    -charcters looks awsome in CG [lulu/auron/yuna/rikku etc]
    -CG does "matter" like sin attack when the city got destroyed + goin into new city you get to see the whole place/ppl
    -FFX CG is too good to even question it or count them k? go play it
    you also say it does matter, so don't try and say a bunch of BS

    Quote Originally Posted by Rag

    And when did i say i like FFX graphic more than FFXII? CG and gameplay graphic is diffrent story so dont say punch of BS i never said

    Becouse this this thread is about the CG not the main game story right? RIGHT? CG soundtracks gameplay all got mentioned here yet they aint what we talking about here its all about the story and thats were the game fail got dat?

    Till then thats my last replay im talking with people who is pure fanboys so its pointless
    I'll say it again smartboy gameplay grahpic and CG is totaly diffrent things
    FFX CG>FFXII Gameplay graphic FFXII>FFX /waiting for your new lies and galka none sense

    you keep calling me a galka cos i have one in my sig? talk about judging books by their cover. and yes you did say FFX CG is better than FFXII, but you never said anything before about gameplay graphics before. and obviously which do we play more? the CG or the gameplay? the gameplay of course! stop trying to avoid that
    same replay i said up applys here

    i'll just do a reply that's similar to yours, lol when did i say i was fanboys go read the thread.
    it's pointless talking to a troll too. hope we don't see you again ^^[/quote:24c24][/quote:24c24][/quote:24c24]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    yes i play rpgs 80% for story and 20% for other stuff
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    FFX had a story and charcters story but it was weak storys
    also there was alot of events that happened with good CGS (FFXII CGS freaking fail bigtime all about ships nothing amazing or cool)
    FFXII have almost no story at all in the first place

    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    about the CG thingy yes FFX CG way better a million time than FFXII
    FFX CG

    -Yuna dancing there was pretty effects and song it was emotional atleast
    -freaking awsome CG opening
    -charcters looks awsome in CG [lulu/auron/yuna/rikku etc]
    -CG does "matter" like sin attack when the city got destroyed + goin into new city you get to see the whole place/ppl
    -FFX CG is too good to even question it or count them k? go play it

    at FFXII what you get to see at CG?
    70% flying ships
    10% like 5second clip of some new zones
    10% stuff that make no sense like vaan touching the water/watching airship etc
    10% other CG which still doesnt looks amazing
    Sounds more like 40% story, 50% CG, 10% other stuff. *shrug* You don't express yourself well in English because people keep apparently missing what you "really meant to say". It sounds like when the story takes place in "awesome looking" CG you like the story better. From everything you've said in this thread it sounds like FFX is your favorite FF. I think FFX sucked monkey balls, I'm not the only one either...but I don't rip on it on a forum dedicated to it, only trolls do things like that.

    In conclusion, I don't believe you're into the story as much as cut scenes from the way you talk about the games. Just my opinion though.

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    not gonna quote that thing anymore


    it was YOU who started the arguement on the CG, not me, nor anyone else. now you can't defend that point anymore so you're just trying to shun it

    i LIKE the story, i LIKE the gameplay, i LIKE the side stuff, a lot of ppl in another thread AGREE with me.
    just cos YOU DON'T like the game, doesn't make your opinion superior to others, now just stop posting and go defend that child porn guy in the other thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    not gonna quote that thing anymore


    it was YOU who started the arguement on the CG, not me, nor anyone else. now you can't defend that point anymore so you're just trying to shun it

    i LIKE the story, i LIKE the gameplay, i LIKE the side stuff, a lot of ppl in another thread AGREE with me.
    just cos YOU DON'T like the game, doesn't make your opinion superior to others, now just stop posting and go defend that child porn guy in the other thread
    SO WHAT if i started the CG thingy? just becouse a game have a bad soundtracks doesnt mean it have a bad story
    just becouse a game have a better CG doesnt mean it got a better story

    Got that?

    I never said FFX have a better CG so that means its story got to be better

    WEAK CG ideas is just one weak point of FFXII weak points

    FFXII have a weak story AND CG(bad ideas alot of ships almost every cs)+SOUNDtracks

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    Quote Originally Posted by PussPuss
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    yes i play rpgs 80% for story and 20% for other stuff
    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    FFX had a story and charcters story but it was weak storys
    also there was alot of events that happened with good CGS (FFXII CGS freaking fail bigtime all about ships nothing amazing or cool)
    FFXII have almost no story at all in the first place

    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    about the CG thingy yes FFX CG way better a million time than FFXII
    FFX CG

    -Yuna dancing there was pretty effects and song it was emotional atleast
    -freaking awsome CG opening
    -charcters looks awsome in CG [lulu/auron/yuna/rikku etc]
    -CG does "matter" like sin attack when the city got destroyed + goin into new city you get to see the whole place/ppl
    -FFX CG is too good to even question it or count them k? go play it

    at FFXII what you get to see at CG?
    70% flying ships
    10% like 5second clip of some new zones
    10% stuff that make no sense like vaan touching the water/watching airship etc
    10% other CG which still doesnt looks amazing
    Sounds more like 40% story, 50% CG, 10% other stuff. *shrug* You don't express yourself well in English because people keep apparently missing what you "really meant to say". It sounds like when the story takes place in "awesome looking" CG you like the story better. From everything you've said in this thread it sounds like FFX is your favorite FF. I think FFX sucked monkey balls, I'm not the only one either...but I don't rip on it on a forum dedicated to it, only trolls do things like that.

    In conclusion, I don't believe you're into the story as much as cut scenes from the way you talk about the games. Just my opinion though.
    Just becouse i like FFX CG it means its my fav? how close minded is that
    i compared FFX CG to FFXII becouse its the only option how many main FF games with CG on ps2 is out there? guess what its only FFX
    i expected CG as good as FFX not way wrost

    CG is still just a bouns afterall a good CG doesnt make a great story game

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    I never said FFX have a better CG so that means its story got to be better
    you're right, you didn't. you just pulled that out of your arse to make some weak arguement

    FFXII have a weak story AND CG(bad ideas alot of ships almost every cs)+SOUNDtracks
    k so the setting in a CG to make a town look busy = bad CG, k makes sense /endsarcasm.

    bad sountracks? better than FFX where every piece of music was a remix of the original soundtrack. Suteki Da Ne doesn't compare to Kiss Me Goodbye in terms of impact to the music industry in japan.

    i will say again, you play the game more than you watch CG, so gameplay does matter more than cutscenes, that's why FFXII>FFX in that respect.


    and wow you just insulted someone who was trying to be neutral to the arguement by calling them close minded? sorry but being neutral in an arguement = being open minded.

    PS2 FFs: FFX, FFX-2, FFXI, FFXII

    how about you complain about how FFXI sucks in the FFXI Talk section, you might actually have ppl agree with you there for once.

    god you're annoying, every post you make contradicts to something you said previously. stop trolling an FFXII section

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    If CG doesn't matter when it comes to story with you there is no reason to even mention it. Especially since you claim you're 80% story 20% other stuff...for CG being part of that 20% you sure did spend a good amount of time discussing it.

    Again, when I finish the game I'll decide for myself how the story unfolded and will laugh if you just didn't get it because of your 3rd grade (self-proclaimed) English level.

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    i know i didnt mention the CG part as a main point so believe whatever you want to believe :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    I never said FFX have a better CG so that means its story got to be better
    you're right, you didn't. you just pulled that out of your arse to make some weak arguement

    [quote:82613]FFXII have a weak story AND CG(bad ideas alot of ships almost every cs)+SOUNDtracks

    PS2 FFs: FFX, FFX-2, FFXI, FFXII
    [/quote:82613]

    FFX-2 is not a main FF
    FFXI got 1 CG only incase you dont know yet so cant realy compare with it

    Only FFX and FFXII left get your facts stright galka

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    If I understand your tortured Engrish properly you say this game fails because of weak character development, uninspired quest design and the combat system is uninteractive.

    Do you by any chance play FFXI?

    So if you hated FFXII, and there's no possible way you could think FFXI is any better, why are you on these boards at all?

    No, really, why?

    I hate nazis and pedophiles, but I don't spend my time on their message boards screaming 'HAY GUYZ REPLAY TO ME UR ALL FAILERS.'

    Just go away and play the games you like, I have no idea what your continued arguing is meant to accomplish other than draw attention to yourself. Had that been your original intent congratulations, everyone now thinks you're a tool.

    The rest of us actually have fun playing FFXII. Sometimes the experience of playing the game is why gamers play....y'know...video games, not because it's the greatest story ever written. And FFXII delivers some fun for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    FFX-2 is not a main FF
    FFXI got 1 CG only incase you dont know yet so cant realy compare with it

    Only FFX and FFXII left get your facts stright galka
    FFX-2 is ABSOLUTELY a "main FF." The only thing that makes it different from every other single-player Final Fantasy game is that the story is a continuation of a previous one.

    If any of the PS2 Final Fantasy games should be excluded, it should be FFXI, as it really is a completely different type of game than every other Final Fantasy title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    If I understand your tortured Engrish properly you say this game fails because of weak character development, uninspired quest design and the combat system is uninteractive.

    Do you by any chance play FFXI?

    So if you hated FFXII, and there's no possible way you could think FFXI is any better, why are you on these boards at all?

    No, really, why?

    I hate nazis and pedophiles, but I don't spend my time on their message boards screaming 'HAY GUYZ REPLAY TO ME UR ALL FAILERS.'

    Just go away and play the games you like, I have no idea what your continued arguing is meant to accomplish other than draw attention to yourself. Had that been your original intent congratulations, everyone now thinks you're a tool.

    The rest of us actually have fun playing FFXII. Sometimes the experience of playing the game is why gamers play....y'know...video games, not because it's the greatest story ever written. And FFXII delivers some fun for us.
    First of all FFXI does have a great storys its not only about questing but people like you who only camp dragon aery dont know that i guess

    And FFXII may does indeed to be fun for a lot of people but its story fail and thats what im talking about at this thread

    A final fantasy game is more than just "fun to play" and once you finished the game thats it

    You suppose to have a nice journy with the charcters and make you get emotional and living the events with the charcter FFXII fail here

    If you look at final fantasy as a game fun to play and thats it alot of people do not its funny when people who didnt complete the game yet argue about it it was fun first 5hours but after running through all this big empty areas filled with mobs it was fun no more

    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rag
    Quote Originally Posted by Tekki
    [img]This story is about an idea, its about a conflict and it involves the world, not just a few kids. The sheer number of polics and involves players in this struggle gives this a very "LOTR, everyone must get involved in this conflict" feel to it. Which I love. Politics, war, tragedy, conflict, world participation,
    I havent even gotten into the gameplay and why I love it as well.
    Im sorry but we knew there was war and tragedy since first hour we played FFXII and you will finish the game with this idea too without much changes

    i dont freaking mind an big story and amazing about wars and tragedy aslong it doesnt take 30min to get the whole story from start to the end of it
    you know, we all see how this idiot continues to bash the game blindly just because, but he has a point here.

    warning, spoiler commentary below:

    the story doesn't develop and end like the start of it promises, and that's a spoiler.. up to about 80% of the story (basically before they decide to invade bahamut) it's a good--no, great--story about a world conflict, but then it runs short and let a couple of "kids" save the day... and i believe that's the work of the new director who tries to round things up, because again like i said previously the original director left because his story was getting too big and SE didn't want to spend any more money on it or let the fans wait another 3 years. fortunately, in a way the new director transits where the old director left off to his own story quite nicely, so if you are not really paying that close of attention to it you shouldn't notice it at all

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