Emo to the Max

[Dustinsp]

Coming from someone whos been addicted to drugs for awhile. I can see peoples arguments about sitting on your comp playing games all day being just as bad. At least most of the "druggys" are getting out and actually doing somthing rarther then sitting on asses at a comp all day.

Coming from someone who was addicted to comp games/internet for a few years. Hell yes its worse imo. I'm not talking from a health/law standpoint either. I'm talking from a actually living your life standpoint. Your missing out on so much life has to offer sitting around trying to get your next "uber" item. I'm sure i'll get the "zomg but playing games is so fun i have lots of friends!!!!!!!!!!" manditory responce. All i gotta ask is when was the last time you hung out with friends in your real life, and didn't you find it so much more fun?

This parts aimed at whoever said about cigs being legal and being 100x times worse then pot.
Of course it is, the government can tax cigs and make money off of people killing themselves. If pot was legal they couldn't tax it and make money off it, because it doesn't have to be made in factorys to put in all the harmful shit they put in cigs. So they do the next best thing, they make money off of catching people with it. I've always viewed pot as being way less harmful then drinking myself. I really have no facts to back it up, but i've sure we've all seen the guy at party who drink himself stupid puking his guts out.

Lets see ya'll get through a day without Caffeine

[yayaok]

i drink like, 3 cans of soda a week... maybe 4-5 cups of coffee, only during weekends so i can stay up lol

caffeine is weak, sad thing is you need lots for it to be effective (at least, for me)

are drugs really worth the money/hassle anyway? i see it like this, 1 pack of cigs = chips and comic

[Perfect Night]

Plow, you're mentally retarded. Seriously. Let's compare, shall we?

I've never heard of a forum whore being arrested for posting on too many forums.
I've never heard of a forum whore being admitted to rehab.
I've never heard of forum whores forming gangs.
I've never heard of a forum whore killing brain cells from prolonged exposure.

afk while I pick at my acne.

lol the last line sums it all up.

But it is you Totien, who is mentally retarded.

Who are you to judge somethign that has be practiced and used for over 10k years?

That made me lol. So lets say something like murder has been going on for that long, I'm not saying it has I'm just using it as an example, does that make it right? Should we not judge those who do it because it's something that's been happening for so long?

I had a very close friend overdose and die on drugs, but ITS OK, she was just experiencing new things!

[Dustinsp]

Like someone else said its all about moderation.
If you do any drug to much its going to be to expensive and probably make you broke/lose your job etc lol.

You see chips/comic with pack of smokes.

I see a joint for me and friends to make movie we watch better

I'm sorry, but from someone who does drugs, if you od on somthing, your probably not to smart. I've been doing a variety of drugs for 6 years now. I researched everything i've done before i did it. I'm still here

[heals]

Coming from someone whos been addicted to drugs for awhile. I can see peoples arguments about sitting on your comp playing games all day being just as bad. At least most of the "druggys" are getting out and actually doing somthing rarther then sitting on asses at a comp all day.

Coming from someone who was addicted to comp games/internet for a few years. Hell yes its worse imo. I'm not talking from a health/law standpoint either. I'm talking from a actually living your life standpoint. Your missing out on so much life has to offer sitting around trying to get your next "uber" item. I'm sure i'll get the "zomg but playing games is so fun i have lots of friends!!!!!!!!!!" manditory responce. All i gotta ask is when was the last time you hung out with friends in your real life, and didn't you find it so much more fun?

This parts aimed at whoever said about cigs being legal and being 100x times worse then pot.
Of course it is, the government can tax cigs and make money off of people killing themselves. If pot was legal they couldn't tax it and make money off it, because it doesn't have to be made in factorys to put in all the harmful shit they put in cigs. So they do the next best thing, they make money off of catching people with it. I've always viewed pot as being way less harmful then drinking myself. I really have no facts to back it up, but i've sure we've all seen the guy at party who drink himself stupid puking his guts out.

Lets see ya'll get through a day without Caffeine

1. the government is FAR from making money off of enforcing drug laws

2. the government has the largest marijuana fields in the US, and I'm sure they have very good botanists growing the shit, so it's not gonna be some cheap midgrade

[SephYuyX]

1) I dont drink coffee or pop or other caffeine.
2) I dont smoke cigs or do any other drugs.
3) I dont drink beer or other alcohol.
4) I dont take any medicines.

I never understood why people drink coffee or pop to stay up, it doesnt make sense, they both taste like shit, and for me once im out of bed its easy to stay up. Ive never smoked cigs, ive smoked a joint once with my friends before though, dumbest thing ever, didnt even do anything to me while they were all 'trippy'. Ive drank beer a few times, see above, dumb, waste of money, doesnt do anything, etcetc.

I dont like to drink it anyway as I dont like carbonation. I dont take any medications, as I never get sick, the worst I ever had was the flu in gradeschool, if that im lucky enough to get a cough every other 3 years. When I do get sick I dont take any meds because I rather have my body work it off naturally.

Honestly, anyone who drinks or smokes anything to get away from it, or have more fun, is a dumb fuck. All my friends smoke weed and drink all the time, and I tell them all the time that theyre idiots for doing itand just wasting money as well. If you need to do something to have a 'better experiance', youre messed up in the head, period. Go ahead and compair video games and the internets all you like, its nothing compaired to drugs or the like.

Yeah, there are people who go way overboard on games, and theyre idiots too.

If a person can manage being a drugy and still lead a succesful life, ok, thats fine and dandy for you, but dont say things like 'theyre not bad for you' or 'there are worse things man' while you puff a joint.

Seriously, if you drink or smoke a lot, and think its ok, you have a problem. If you play video games all day every day and it messes with your real life, and think its ok, you have a problem.

Also, compairing drugs to video games is dumb, yes they can both be addictions, but obviously one is outlawed for a reason. If one person played video games, for the same amount of time that another was doing drugs, guess which one will end up failing at life. Little johnny smokes crack everyday for 3 hours, while little billy plays video games at the same time, I wonder which is worse.

Obviously if you do drugs and play video games, youre fucked up for life but makes for good movies (Grandma's Boy).


Also, I bet no one who does smoke or drink can tell me one positive reason for doing so. Seriously, there is nothing good that comes from doing those things.

So I bet someone is going to say 'omg you post on a forumz and play games'. Ok, well, yeah, I post on forums and shit when im at work during down times. I play video games to have fun and kill time, just the way others read books, watch TV, work outside, etc. Im sure youre think 'I do drugs to have fun and kill time, one cant be wrong while the other is ok!' ok fine, so you do drugs to kill time, but wait, im not losing brain cells and getting stick from playing video games, if anything I get smarter. I read text in video games, exersise my brain while trying to figure out puzzles and dont forget hand/eye cooridination.

I mean damn, yall can compair the two all day long, but you know it as well as everyone else, video games are no where close to as bad as drugs. Sorry.

Im sure theres a few people who do drugs and excel at life, and im sure there are a few people who play video games and fail at life, theres always those cases. But, as with this post, in my opinion, people who do drugs and shit, fail at life.

[Kazen]

Hey mr. hypocrite, can YOU admit you obviously have a computer problem? Are you trying to deny that computers AREN'T bad? Because really, they are. Anything addicting and bad for your health is pretty much something you shouldn't be doing.

I get what you're saying, but you can't relate it to me, simply because you don't know me. I know and I can say that I don't have a problem. If you look at my start smoking date, I HAVE been smoking for over 10 years, (very close to 15 years), smoking frequently. As of late I haven't smoked nearly as much as I did before (or I'd be boardering 5000 joints), since I moved to a different college the time I had for smoking has gone down even more.

Can you tell how 6 bowls a day AVERAGE (this is an important word) on ONE pipe OVER a 15 years automatically means I have an addiction to pot?

Hell, if you look around the world, I'M number 800,000,000 (how the fuck did I drop to 800,000,000?) Does that mean everyone with a higher thc count (and slightly lower) then me is a pot junkie with no hope? Nope. We aren't doing anything bad or wrong, you however are.

It's ludacris to relate smoking pot count with an addiction to drugs, if I was smoking pot non-stop not eating and sleeping I could understand, but I'm not, so it's stupid to argue what you're arguing.

I would like to say finally, seek help Elcura, seek help.

deeeeennniiiiiaaaaaallllllllllll (Do you need any help?)

anyway it's pointless to try to debate with people whose mental capacity when it comes to issues about addiction and shit can't exceed that of mr mackey

I'm sorry but your fucking retarded :wink: . Ok lets do the math here, I see 4200 posts in a span of about 2yrs; ok 4200/730 = 5.753425 posts/day. I hardly call 6 posts a day (rounding up) a harmful addiction. Hell you can do 6 posts in a matter of minutes; not to mention most people on these forums or a majority are college students. I dont know about the rest of you but i have a hell of alot of time between classes (usually 30-45 min inbetween each) and i dont see how 6 posts a day is an "addiction". Yeah getting fucked up with drugs is sooo much more of a life and meaniful isnt it

[Correction]

Wow!

I did something I knew was illegal while hiding it from my parents, got caught and now I'm grounded for a year

GOD DAMN FUCKING WAR ON DRUGS/DRUG USERS

I love you, Internet!

[Sadler]

Damn, you deserve a fucking cookie.

If your that much of a pot head to even leave you shit out on sight you deserve what you get... and before people go "But his parents came home early" that isn't the point.

If your stupid enough to change your "hiding" patterns just because members of the house hold are on holiday just tells you how many brain cells you have lost.

[Demetrius*]

i hate to sound like the boring fuck here, but, everything in moderation. (some) drugs are fine, video games are fine, just keep it under control. its only the extremes that screw your life up.
to be honest, its the straightedges like sephirothyuyx that scare me the most. there are some stellar fucking people out there that engage in some recreational substances. don't write em off so easily.

[Septimus]

I think that people who believe that drugs should be legalized need to work with addicts. People need to see how crack and meth destroy people's lives and the lives of people around them. But what do I know? (Oh wait, my former job was working with substance abusers.)

Yes, there is such a thing as internet addiction, just like food addiction, sex addiction, video game/MMO addiction, Jane's Addiction, high-speed car chase addiction, Anderson Cooper addiction, etc. The major criteria for diagnosing an addiction involve the affects on one's life- does it prevent you from doing your job/going to school, does one continue despite negative effects to health, does it cause the person to endanger the health and well-being of others, is it physically/mentally painful to be without it, so on and so forth. Substance abuse has a greater chance to impact the well-being of other people's lives, you don't often hear about someone going on a forum bender and getting into a car wreck or robbing a convenience store to get the money to pay for internet so they can chat.

[Lawls]

[thread]I think that people who believe that drugs should be legalized need to work with addicts. People need to see how crack and meth destroy people's lives and the lives of people around them. But what do I know? (Oh wait, my former job was working with substance abusers.)

Yes, there is such a thing as internet addiction, just like food addiction, sex addiction, video game/MMO addiction, Jane's Addiction, high-speed car chase addiction, Anderson Cooper addiction, etc. The major criteria for diagnosing an addiction involve the affects on one's life- does it prevent you from doing your job/going to school, does one continue despite negative effects to health, does it cause the person to endanger the health and well-being of others, is it physically/mentally painful to be without it, so on and so forth. Substance abuse has a greater chance to impact the well-being of other people's lives, you don't often hear about someone going on a forum bender and getting into a car wreck or robbing a convenience store to get the money to pay for internet so they can chat[/thread]

[Dustinsp]

Theres a huge differance between saying pot/shrooms/acid should be legal.
and saying meth/crack/herion should be legal.

ones on second list have a tendancy to fry your brain in 1-2 tries

[Carbon]

lol the last line sums it all up.

But it is you Totien, who is mentally retarded.

Who are you to judge somethign that has be practiced and used for over 10k years?

I'm pretty sure that he wasn't bashing drugs in this statement, at least directly. Rather, he was comparing the idiotic comparison to the fact that an addiction to drugs is equally as bad as an addiction to the internet (which is horse shit).

And this last line, which I so conveniently bolded for all of our readers, is a pretty bland statement. I would assume that you could be less original in your arguments.

Because "(which is horse shit)" is such a powerful argument.

Guess what? I smoke a whoooole hell of a lot of pot.

Before FFXI, I did quite well in school, had a "booming" social life, was in great shape, etc. All while smoking a whole lot of pot.

Since FFXI, (and quitting drinking lol...) I've not done nearly as well in school, hardly ever go out anymore, got myself a belly, etc.

So which is worse? One that breaks the law, but allows me to do everything I would normally do at the same time, or one that keeps me at my computer all the damn time?

You're going to say drugs are worse for 2 reasons. A. Mommy and daddy told you so. B. You're probably as addicted to the internet as anyone else here, and you can't deal with the fact that your addiction is as bad as any other addiction.

Holy shit you're dumb.

[Kross]

Plz elaborate Carbon.

You said I was dumb cuz you thought weed didn't exist since the Stone Age, but guess what! It did!!

Plz stop calling other ppl dumb when you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

And comparing weed to crack is like comparing a paper cut to a shot in the chest; be reasonable.

thread]I think that people who believe that drugs should be legalized need to work with addicts. People need to see how crack and meth destroy people's lives and the lives of people around them. But what do I know? (Oh wait, my former job was working with substance abusers.)

Yes, there is such a thing as internet addiction, just like food addiction, sex addiction, video game/MMO addiction, Jane's Addiction, high-speed car chase addiction, Anderson Cooper addiction, etc. The major criteria for diagnosing an addiction involve the affects on one's life- does it prevent you from doing your job/going to school, does one continue despite negative effects to health, does it cause the person to endanger the health and well-being of others, is it physically/mentally painful to be without it, so on and so forth. Substance abuse has a greater chance to impact the well-being of other people's lives, you don't often hear about someone going on a forum bender and getting into a car wreck or robbing a convenience store to get the money to pay for internet so they can chat[/thread]

In many cases, ppl depend on marijuana to cope with their sickness just like grandma depends on pills to live. A lot of positive things come from smoking marijuana:

http://www.marijuana-uses.com/essays/061.html

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/c ... ical.shtml

Marijuana is a medicine, and yes it's not good to abuse it but it's not comparable to Crack or Heroïne.

But yes, you guys are right, being addicted to the internet is nowhere as bad as being addicted to crack,meth,coke etc.

But please don't knock weed lol.

[Lawls]

I don't care if people use "hardcore drugs", but if I don't want to try it, then leave me the fuck alone.

[Kross]

I don't care if people use "hardcore drugs", but if I don't want to try it, then leave me the fuck alone.

Yeah I agree, my friends were doing coke and offered... no thanks man I'll stick to the shit I know.

[Plow]

I think that people who believe that drugs should be legalized need to work with addicts. People need to see how crack and meth destroy people's lives and the lives of people around them. But what do I know? (Oh wait, my former job was working with substance abusers.)

Yes, there is such a thing as internet addiction, just like food addiction, sex addiction, video game/MMO addiction, Jane's Addiction, high-speed car chase addiction, Anderson Cooper addiction, etc. The major criteria for diagnosing an addiction involve the affects on one's life- does it prevent you from doing your job/going to school, does one continue despite negative effects to health, does it cause the person to endanger the health and well-being of others, is it physically/mentally painful to be without it, so on and so forth. Substance abuse has a greater chance to impact the well-being of other people's lives, you don't often hear about someone going on a forum bender and getting into a car wreck or robbing a convenience store to get the money to pay for internet so they can chat.

First off, working with people that have serious problems only shows you the end results.

When you've watched firsthand good friends, and family members go from wonderful people who are great to hang out with, to people so fucking crazy they stand face to face with you with a baseball bat in their hands ready to go because you tried to help them get over the shit... All occuring within a number of DAYS... then you can truly begin to grasp the situation.

And at that point, the differences between that shit (meth in the above example) and the shit your typical "druggie" get into become extremely apparent.

Of course doing things that dramatically change you, and make you *dependent* on a substance, is bad.

But you just can't even begin to compare things like pot to substances of that level. It's like comparing drinking a beer sometimes to drinking a fifth of whiskey every morning.


Also, apparently everyone here is apparently completely unaware of the fact that you don't have to smoke pot to get high from it. There are several ways to get the same high without doing anything directly detrimental to your health. (Vaporizing and cooking, for instance.)


Pot "addiction" to internet "addiction" is an extremely valid comparison, and it's favorable towards pot.

I can do anything else in the world that I want to do, while smoking pot.

I cannot do anything else... pretty much period... while sitting at my computer playing games.


FFXI is less obvious an addiction that say something like WoW... but remember there are dozens of people on every WoW server who play 10-15+ hours EVERY SINGLE DAY in order to achieve the highest pvp rankings. I know, I did it myself, and that's why I'm back to FFXI.

I'm not saying that there is no drug addiction in the world, or even a miniscule amount. I'm not saying there are no drugs that are problematic.

Many of you, however, are saying that there's miniscule, if any, addiction to the internet.

That is idiotic, and I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

The first step to fixing a problem is admitting it.

I know I have a problem with being on the internet too much, and playing silly games too much, do you know that you do?

[Carbon]

Plz elaborate Carbon.

You said I was dumb cuz you thought weed didn't exist since the Stone Age, but guess what! It did!!

Plz stop calling other ppl dumb when you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

And comparing weed to crack is like comparing a paper cut to a shot in the chest; be reasonable.

Actually I was referring to Plow in this post. If you hadn't been so "toked up" you might have seen that.

And regarding what I bolded, this is exactly what Plow is doing. Silly comparisions that are being paired up with foolish things.

[anoush]

Yeah, hey lol. I was just being EMO to the MAX sorry for posting the gay thread. regardless there's been gayer threads so yeah i just felt like sharing lol