Emo to the Max

[Kenai]

As much as I disagree with drug use and abuse for non-medical purposes, it IS pretty hypocritcal when alchohol and cigarettes, which are equally bad or worse in many ways, are up for buying legally.

That being said, two wrongs don't make a right to me. If you can get away with it and it doesn't ruin your life or affect mine, whatever. But when I have to pay my tax dollars to put overdosed bastards through rehab or keep people in jail because of the mistakes they did, while I am working hard just to keep a roof over my head and live somewhat how I like, then it's not "your life" anymore, it's affecting me too.

[Unklemonkey]

Is that the best you could come up with? Judging somebody on an internet forum about the avatar they use? Does that mean you're will ferral playing the cow bell? And Kross is a rabbit humping a balloon? I found it funny, just like you two probably found yours funny or amusing.

Just fyi- I don't drink at all anymore, I've drank maybe 2 times in my entire life and I wasn't impressed. Try harder next time.

I fully support Will Ferrel and his cowbell playing. Apparently Kross fully supports rabbits humping balloons lol. And judging by your avatar, you fully support beer.

That has to be the dumbest arguement I've ever heard... You still havn't answered me, do you have a medical condition in which you need the drugs?

There are actually 7 people in the USA that can legally smoke marijuana. Thier bodies are riddled with tumors and really operating would be just like putting the adamantium skeleton on Wolverine. (sorry for the gay analogy >.>) Not sure what the desease is called, or even how the pot helps.. but it keeps them alive, so meh.

I know there are people who are very sick and need the drug for whatever reason, but what I was asking was why bring the fact that Marijuana is a medical herb and using that as a reason for it to be ok when they themselves don't have any medical conditions in which it would be ok for them to use it.

[SephYuyX]

As much as I disagree with drug use and abuse for non-medical purposes, it IS pretty hypocritcal when alchohol and cigarettes, which are equally bad or worse in many ways, are up for buying legally.

There are people trying to get these things outlawed, theyve been trying for years with cigs, and then there was that whole prohibition thing back in the day.

I wish cigs and alcohol where banned personally, I wish they were outlawed, they serve no purpose.

If that cant be done (any time soon) atleast tax the shit out of them. Cig tax needs to be like 20$ per pack, and about 500$ per carton. Beer needs taxed 20$ per bottle, 100$ per pack, and 500$ per keg.. or something.

That would be great, with those sorts of taxes you can A) not drink/smoke, B) Steal them and get caught and raped in jail, or C) pay off our national dept and lower other taxes.

[Devek]

That would be great, with those sorts of taxes you can A) not drink/smoke, B) Steal them and get caught and raped in jail, or C) pay off our national dept and lower other taxes.

D) Google for the word, "zymurgy"

You can't ban and you can only tax alcohol so much before people simply make their own. It is so incredibly easy to make alcohol and humans have been doing it for billions of years or something. It would be like trying to tax or ban masturbation, it would be impossible to enforce and many people consider it their personal right to do so.

The first step in getting rid of drug and alcohol usage in our society is to realize that our society can't live without drugs and alcohol. Once that step has been taken we can try to move on to the next step. That next step involves killing all the over protective parents who object to schools teaching kids anything.

[Septimus]

That next step involves killing all the over protective parents who object to schools teaching kids anything.

Sorry, too busy stuffing their heads full of facts for the mandatory "No child left behind" standardized tests. Not time to teach kids stuff like that. Or English, Math, History, Art, Music...

[Devek]

That next step involves killing all the over protective parents who object to schools teaching kids anything.

Sorry, too busy stuffing their heads full of facts for the mandatory "No child left behind" standardized tests. Not time to teach kids stuff like that. Or English, Math, History, Art, Music...

Ok, first step is to kill all the politicians.

[Kenai]

As much as I disagree with drug use and abuse for non-medical purposes, it IS pretty hypocritcal when alchohol and cigarettes, which are equally bad or worse in many ways, are up for buying legally.

There are people trying to get these things outlawed, theyve been trying for years with cigs, and then there was that whole prohibition thing back in the day.

I wish cigs and alcohol where banned personally, I wish they were outlawed, they serve no purpose.

If that cant be done (any time soon) atleast tax the shit out of them. Cig tax needs to be like 20$ per pack, and about 500$ per carton. Beer needs taxed 20$ per bottle, 100$ per pack, and 500$ per keg.. or something.

That would be great, with those sorts of taxes you can A) not drink/smoke, B) Steal them and get caught and raped in jail, or C) pay off our national dept and lower other taxes.

You won't get an argument out of me there. I would not even mind that much if I didn't have to pay for it when someone screws up overdosing or whatever, because it IS their body to do how they want, if they keep the smoke/chemicals/whatever away from me and everyone else who wants no part in it, but when the (many) people who can't control themselves do mess up, who's got to pay for it, be it money or lives? That's not right that I have to pay to get a bum back up on his feet when even STARTING it was illegal, especially when they have a good chance of getting addicted again to wind up in the same situation.

FYI I am EXTREMELY senstive to cig smoke, one decent breath of it and I am miserable the rest of the day, so I am a bit touchy on stuff like that when I used to not even be able to leave a building or enter a restarant without seeing puffs of smoke.

[Turtlesoup]

Half the people here arguing against marijuana use don't know anything other than what their government has told them. (zomg its bad, and you will die if you use it)

occasionally smoking marijuana is less harmful to your body than going out drinking every friday night, or even smoking cigarettes. There are not hundreds of additives in your bud, and you aren't going to die by occasionally smoking. It can lead to other drugs, and addictions, but do you guys seriously believe that every person who enjoys a beer is a raging alcoholic?

Think about your government for a minute. How many times has the U.S. Government come out and said they were wrong about a subject? Republican or Democrat, doesn't matter. The government tries to hide things from the people, like it or not, it happens. Do you think that after saying for almost a hundred years that Marijuana is bad that they are suddenly going to turn around, admit that the billions of dollars they spent on anti-marijuana propaganda could have been much better spent on something else, and tell the people that marijuana isn't even that bad for you?

I'm not arguing for either side here, I think both the internet and marijuana can be good if used IN MODERATION. I just think one side of the argument was very misinformed about what they were arguing for.

[Lawls]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfEvfJ9XAw

[Militant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfEvfJ9XAw

The irony of this is that any time I see this or a similar commercial on TV, its usually followed up by an Alcohol advertisement, some how subliminally (or not so subliminally) adverisiting that if I chose their drink I will A) get laid B) make friends.

[Not Kuno]

That commercial actually seems like it wants people to do drugs.

[Brendam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLekZ...elated&search=


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbBU7...elated&search=

I really hope this passes today, not cause I live anywhere near nevada, but if action is taken for the legilization of the weed in one state, its sure to spread to many more.
I do not wish for weed to be smoked everywhere, but keep it very similar to beer and liquor. Glad to see an open minded state. [/url]

[Kross]

I'd never expect to see so many idiots posting in 1 thread.


To everyone who says Marijuana is a medicine, unless you have a doctors prescription saying you're eligible to use it for medical use, please shut the fuck up about it, thx.

why is it that many people who use marijuana are idiots who show the leaf everywhere they go. Why and for what? Sometimes I think people who use crack and drugs of that nature are smarter than the ghetto dumbasses who advertise weed like it's something to be proud of.

blah blah blah

You're a fucking idiot for ignoring the fact that marijuana was the medicine most widely used worldwide before "aspirin". Why is it so hard to understand that Marijuana has some good effects?

Up here in Canada, there's a lot of ppl on the medicinal marijuana plan, they are mosly ppl with Aids or with Cancer. It helps cancer patients eat because Chemotherapy does a number on your hunger. Ppl with glacoma(sp), the eye disease, marijuana greatly slows down the sickness.(Curb your Enthusiasm anyone?)

For all the ppl who think that medicinal marijuana is oblivious, plz make a wiki search for "medicinal marijuana", and you'll understand our(ppl who support pot) point of vue.

Half the people here arguing against marijuana use don't know anything other than what their government has told them. (zomg its bad, and you will die if you use it)

occasionally smoking marijuana is less harmful to your body than going out drinking every friday night, or even smoking cigarettes. There are not hundreds of additives in your bud, and you aren't going to die by occasionally smoking. It can lead to other drugs, and addictions, but do you guys seriously believe that every person who enjoys a beer is a raging alcoholic?

Think about your government for a minute. How many times has the U.S. Government come out and said they were wrong about a subject? Republican or Democrat, doesn't matter. The government tries to hide things from the people, like it or not, it happens. Do you think that after saying for almost a hundred years that Marijuana is bad that they are suddenly going to turn around, admit that the billions of dollars they spent on anti-marijuana propaganda could have been much better spent on something else, and tell the people that marijuana isn't even that bad for you?

I'm not arguing for either side here, I think both the internet and marijuana can be good if used IN MODERATION. I just think one side of the argument was very misinformed about what they were arguing for.

The gov't often make mistakes. Take this movie for example

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0028346/

The gov't back in the 1930s were convinced that marijuana was the leading drug for violence and detoriation of youths of that era, so they did this movie to scare them off.

One of my favorite quotes of all time come from a band named Tool: "Think for yourself, question authority."

If you do what the quote does, you are a worthy person.

[Devek]

One of my favorite quotes of all time come from a band named Tool: "Think for yourself, question authority."

If you do what the quote does, you are a worthy person.

Thats pretty immature..

If I think for myself and question authority because you told me to I'm not really thinking for myself.

[Kross]

One of my favorite quotes of all time come from a band named Tool: "Think for yourself, question authority."

If you do what the quote does, you are a worthy person.

Thats pretty immature..

If I think for myself and question authority because you told me to I'm not really thinking for myself.

Your supposed to question my authority if you think I'm telling you what to do. learnhow2read

[Devek]

One of my favorite quotes of all time come from a band named Tool: "Think for yourself, question authority."

If you do what the quote does, you are a worthy person.

Thats pretty immature..

If I think for myself and question authority because you told me to I'm not really thinking for myself.

Your supposed to question my authority if you think I'm telling you what to do. learnhow2read

I don't understand.. I'm just gonna think for myself and lol@pot heads.

[Kross]

One of my favorite quotes of all time come from a band named Tool: "Think for yourself, question authority."

If you do what the quote does, you are a worthy person.

Thats pretty immature..

If I think for myself and question authority because you told me to I'm not really thinking for myself.

Your supposed to question my authority if you think I'm telling you what to do. learnhow2read

I don't understand.. I'm just gonna think for myself and lol@pot heads.

That's exactly what you're supposed to do :D

btw it's from the song Third Eye - Tool

[Plow]

Is that the best you could come up with? Judging somebody on an internet forum about the avatar they use? Does that mean you're will ferral playing the cow bell? And Kross is a rabbit humping a balloon? I found it funny, just like you two probably found yours funny or amusing.

Just fyi- I don't drink at all anymore, I've drank maybe 2 times in my entire life and I wasn't impressed. Try harder next time.

I fully support Will Ferrel and his cowbell playing. Apparently Kross fully supports rabbits humping balloons lol. And judging by your avatar, you fully support beer.

That has to be the dumbest arguement I've ever heard... You still havn't answered me, do you have a medical condition in which you need the drugs?

No, and I never said anything that would imply that I did.

There are actually 7 people in the USA that can legally smoke marijuana. Thier bodies are riddled with tumors and really operating would be just like putting the adamantium skeleton on Wolverine. (sorry for the gay analogy >.>) Not sure what the desease is called, or even how the pot helps.. but it keeps them alive, so meh.

I know there are people who are very sick and need the drug for whatever reason, but what I was asking was why bring the fact that Marijuana is a medical herb and using that as a reason for it to be ok when they themselves don't have any medical conditions in which it would be ok for them to use it.

I didn't.

[Perfect Night]

One of my favorite quotes of all time come from a band named Tool: "Think for yourself, question authority."

If you do what the quote does, you are a worthy person.

Thats pretty immature..

If I think for myself and question authority because you told me to I'm not really thinking for myself.

Your supposed to question my authority if you think I'm telling you what to do. learnhow2read

I don't understand.. I'm just gonna think for myself and lol@pot heads.

That's exactly what you're supposed to do :D

btw it's from the song Third Eye - Tool

I think a lot of what they mean by that stems from this. -wall of text warning-

The anesthetic state produced does not fit into the conventional classification of stages of anesthesia, but instead produces a state of unconsciousness which has been termed "dissociative" anesthesia in that it appears to selectively interrupt association pathways to the brain before producing somesthetic sensory blockage. In contrast to other anesthetics, protective reflexes, such as coughing and swallowing are maintained under anesthesia. Varations in body temperature may occur. Although some salivation is occasionally noted, the persistance of the swallowing reflex aids in minimizing the hazards associated with ptyalism. Single intramusclar injection usually has a wide margin of safety select patience. Fasting prior to induction is not essential; however, when preparing for elective surgery, it is advisable to withhold food for at least six hours prior to administration. Restraint in subhuman primate neonates is difficult to achieve. The recommended restraint dosages for the following are: Papio cynocephalus, Pongo pygmaeus, 5 to 7.5 mg/kg; Aotus trivirgatus 10 to 12 mg/kg, Macaca fascicularis 12 to 15 mg/kg. A single intramusclar injection produces restraint suitable for TB testing; radiography, physical examination or blood collection. To reduce the incidence of emergence reactions, subjects should not be stimulated by sound or handling during the recovery period. Apnea, respiratory arrest, cardic arrest and death have occasionally been reported when used in conjunction with sedatives or other anesthetics. Close monitoring of patients is strongly advised during induction, maintenance and recovery. Timothy Leary identified a genetic type whose future circuits have begun to be activated and coined them FUTANTS. Futants are naturally selected to facilitate survival by being better adapted to explore the future and take risks through their genetic characteristics. Unless we provide a proper environment of freedom in which this positive genetic type can be recognized, operate in, and the dross be separated from the valuable information, we will be depriving the race of a vital resource. Every time a scientist, philosopher, artist, or athlete pushes our thresholds to new ground the entire race evolves. Ritual Magik is a system of disciplines and exercises aimed at activating parts of the mind we might normally never use (about 85%). Through this system a better understanding of ourselves is attained. No true Ritual Magician has ever sacrificed life, drank goat's bload, or taken part in any other stupid urban legend ritual. This sort of behavior is left to the psychotic, dogmatic, fundamentalist believers you see on your T.V. everyday letting off bombs and killing people in the name of God. Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing...

- Tool, Aenima inside cover

[Zigma]

I'd never expect to see so many idiots posting in 1 thread.


To everyone who says Marijuana is a medicine, unless you have a doctors prescription saying you're eligible to use it for medical use, please shut the fuck up about it, thx.

why is it that many people who use marijuana are idiots who show the leaf everywhere they go. Why and for what? Sometimes I think people who use crack and drugs of that nature are smarter than the ghetto dumbasses who advertise weed like it's something to be proud of.

blah blah blah

You're a fucking idiot for ignoring the fact that marijuana was the medicine most widely used worldwide before "aspirin". Why is it so hard to understand that Marijuana has some good effects?

Up here in Canada, there's a lot of ppl on the medicinal marijuana plan, they are mosly ppl with Aids or with Cancer. It helps cancer patients eat because Chemotherapy does a number on your hunger. Ppl with glacoma(sp), the eye disease, marijuana greatly slows down the sickness.(Curb your Enthusiasm anyone?)

For all the ppl who think that medicinal marijuana is oblivious, plz make a wiki search for "medicinal marijuana", and you'll understand our(ppl who support pot) point of vue.

No, I am not ignoring the fact that it can be a medicine, I've known that for years. I am pointing out that I am disgusted by the fact that people who don't NEED it as a medicine want to use that very excuse to justify their reason for getting it approved by the goverment.

If it ever gets passed, 80+% of the people buying it sure as fuck aren't gonna be getting it to help them health wise.