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[Khamsin]

back on topic

Are there any short term plans to fix the Dynamis-Jeuno dancing goblin bug? Every time we call a GM for this they say it's being fixed, but it's been years now...

For those who don't know about it, the bug consists in groups goblins starting to just do a glitchy vertical vibration at some time, and killing mobs does not make them depop, they just stand there, dead with their name grey, and never vanish or drop anything, so the NM's never pop since we don't actually "kill" the triggers.

Last Dynamis-Jeuno we did, we had over 1h left on our hourglasses for farming and had to drop them when the glitch occured. /farewell 1,000,000 gil



EDIT: oh yeah, first post ftw

Weird, I've done hundreds of Dynamis-Jeunos, and never seen this bug once.

The glitch happens when newbs pull the boss to the mob house and fight it there.

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l_4F-jtM6g

So the Orcs do riverdance, and the Goblins do macarena?

[Guyverarmor]

Interesting glitch, but fucking funny ass dance

[Koul]

The graphics to those questions make me smile

my question: why isn't Massacre Elegy out yet or why we don't have a TP-paeon-like song~ Brd needs an improvement over COR now
*waits and see if anyone takes me seriously*

[shinobi_tabi]

[quote=Miji]

Give smithers some good fucking consumables

drksteel ingots, its consumable basically<.< gobby bags
every craft has good consumables...
am i the only one who lol'd?

I lol'd when you said ingots are consumables.

they practically are, ppl always buy them for crafting, skilling, quests. and guess what? they get consumed by crystals or npcs.
what kind of consumables does a smither want , iron sushi? steel pancakes, kunwu cookies?
you all ready have makibashi, shurikens, if you want to use the tight definition. however a consumable is somthing that can be consumed, and every synth material is consumable under the loose definition, even if the final products are not. so yea ingots are consumable
and if you wanted to make your idea of comsumable stuff that badly, you should of just leveled wood, alchy, cook.
lolconsumable

I'm going to assume you don't craft (or have otherwise limited knowledge on the subject) since you just made a semantics argument out of this.[/quote:a7644]
maybe you are just limited to thinking inside the box. what other kinds of consumable do you want from smithing then?what other kinds besides shurikens,ninja tools are even left? hello metal is hard to consume unless you are tossing it. shit go look consumable up ion the dictionary. its a noun and adj. when you put that ingot in that lil wil synth box, it gets consumed. when you put it in that lil wil trade box, it gets consumed.
semms like i am repeating myself. anyway how is your iron'kabobs and
kopparnickel juice going?



and yea it takes a real genius to craftLMAO
and it is not somthing that you actual has to know alot about it to do it...
hey what do you do with your painites MIJ? do you turn them into gold/gem ear/ring+1? Or do you sell them on AH to ppl who want to do gob bag 4?
yea dont answer that

[shinobi_tabi]

[quote=Kuropiko]

Give smithers some good fucking consumables

drksteel ingots, its consumable basically<.< gobby bags
every craft has good consumables...
am i the only one who lol'd?

I lol'd when you said ingots are consumables.

they practically are, ppl always buy them for crafting, skilling, quests. and guess what? they get consumed by crystals or npcs.
what kind of consumables does a smither want , iron sushi? steel pancakes, kunwu cookies?
you all ready have makibashi, shurikens, if you want to use the tight definition. however a consumable is somthing that can be consumed, and every synth material is consumable under the loose definition, even if the final products are not. so yea ingots are consumable

and if you wanted to make your idea of comsumable stuff that badly, you should of just leveled wood, alchy, cook.
lolconsumable

A Haubergeon gets consumed by a crystal too if you make a Hauberk. Yeah, smithers have Haubergeon as a consumable too ![/quote:1454d]
yea and many ppl skill up on haubys too, right.

[shinobi_tabi]

every craft has consumables fyi
if you don't consider ingots consumable, god for you, but thats just you.
smithing has ninja tools and shurikens. don't like it? like i said go lvl cook,alch,wood if you want hardcore consumable omg it consume my soulsuoluslujgfhio;das nbsdhflksnb;iosdjf;o

[shinobi_tabi]

ANYWAY
Bercus, please don't waste time on smithing consumable questions <.<
if any crafting question needs to be asked it is, will they ever add a recipe for my orichalcum rings+1 and elemental beads?

[Khamsin]

every craft has consumables fyi
if you don't consider ingots consumable, god for you, but thats just you.
smithing has ninja tools and shurikens. don't like it? like i said go lvl cook,alch,wood if you want hardcore consumable omg it consume my soulsuoluslujgfhio;das nbsdhflksnb;iosdjf;o

Yeah, I don't see the issue. Alchemy has Silent Oils and Echo Drops, Smithing has Shurikens and Makibishi, Woodworking has Shihei, Clothcraft has Shinobi-Tabi, Cooking has food, etc.

Other than perhaps the rate at which people consume some items, I don't really see the difference.

[Furia]

might want to think twice about the "obtainning orb from outside HNM" part... just add "a linkshell that camp and can kill the orb HNM 24/7" and GS that's now interested in it cuz they can actually arrange to fight HQ kings like how they did kirin. and you have another 3 ulli right there.

[shinobi_tabi]

yea you pointed out the only difference really
some guy said to ask when will smithers get good consumables
and i said you already have good stuff, darksteel ingots sell for alot and i consider them consumable, and most consumables do stack!
just gotta change your mindset on what is actually consumable.
then mij tried to say i am dumb and don't know shit, but that is far from the truth

and at the guy who said hauby-consumable
lolno
but the damascus ingot is!
and i am sure your servers GS love it when you buy it off AH and consume it from them
i bet they /joy if your break it too

[Mertron]

As for the whole "wyrms sleep too easily" debate, I've always thought along with other people that putting a 2 hour (or maybe 3, but that seems too easy) rage timer on them would work. Might seem unfair for a starting LS to try to kill Tiamat in 2 hours their first try, but hey, Jorm is probably up, go practice on him. He's harder than Timmy anyway, Tiamat is just about claiming.

As for this:

It's been a long time since an "oh shit" moment, but I know they happen. I dont think faf/nid/tiamat should be completely immune to sleep, but should be SIGNIFIGANT sleep resistance after a few sleeps. By signifigant, I mean ES isnt always 100% sleep no matter what, and put some shitty LSs that use 20+ sleeps per fight out of business, or learn to use some fucking skill.

Those linkshells are just learning. I'm sure everyone here though, on the great BG site, killed all their wyrms first try with zero or just a couple sleeps. It's a stupid idea to cockblock new shells from content just because the really good ones can kill Fafnir in 15 minutes or less and greater wyrms in under an hour.

Come to Fairy. The shell that has killed far more Tiamats, and started killing it before any of the current endgame shells, also sucks the hardest at the fight. It's one thing to "cockblock" new shells from killing it, its another thing to watch a shell rotate ES sleep2 on a wyrm for 4 hours while they wait for the rest of their shell to wake up (While you have 20+ people waiting to fight it).

Put a 2 hour rage timer on it, problem solved.

[Plow]

Pretty sure they have... I was watching a team do it the other day because they were doing it with rdm/nin main tanking, and I'm pretty sure it hypered on em. They were doing fine but really slow until about 5%, at which point it went completely nuts. And not like blah blah wyrm below 20% normal shit nuts.

Talking hitting at like hornetneedle speed with normal hits ranging from 500-800+ and 900+ crits, on the same rdm and pld's that had been tanking the whole time just fine.

Not completely certain about the time but I think it was right about 2 hours in.

[Miji]

[quote=shinobi_tabi]

they practically are, ppl always buy them for crafting, skilling, quests. and guess what? they get consumed by crystals or npcs.
what kind of consumables does a smither want , iron sushi? steel pancakes, kunwu cookies?
you all ready have makibashi, shurikens, if you want to use the tight definition. however a consumable is somthing that can be consumed, and every synth material is consumable under the loose definition, even if the final products are not. so yea ingots are consumable
and if you wanted to make your idea of comsumable stuff that badly, you should of just leveled wood, alchy, cook.
lolconsumable

I'm going to assume you don't craft (or have otherwise limited knowledge on the subject) since you just made a semantics argument out of this.

maybe you are just limited to thinking inside the box. what other kinds of consumable do you want from smithing then?what other kinds besides shurikens,ninja tools are even left? hello metal is hard to consume unless you are tossing it. shit go look consumable up ion the dictionary. its a noun and adj. when you put that ingot in that lil wil synth box, it gets consumed. when you put it in that lil wil trade box, it gets consumed.
semms like i am repeating myself. anyway how is your iron'kabobs and
kopparnickel juice going?[/quote:853ad]
You're still basing your argument on semantics. You know what he meant by consumable, yet you're making up iron kabobs and kopparnickel juices to combat his request. It's not our jobs to think them up, and that doesn't prevent him as a blacksmither from wanting more consumables. Now you're talking about damascus ingots now as consumables under your impractically broad definition of the word, under which everything is a consumable. Also, he's not saying smithing doesn't have any; he's saying he would like more. Nothing wrong with that request.

[shinobi_tabi]

synth materials are consumable. get over it. that can't be semantics there. can it.

i can read and do know he said he wanted better. well you can't get much better consumables in smithing then what you got now, if you want to think the only consumables the craft have are makibashi's and shurikens. go ahead.and who knows how he meant better. he could be asking for faster sales?, or more gil per sale? idk

consumable is somthing that is consumed. go put up a darksteel ingot or stack of shihei on AH. someone will buy it. i would call that being consumed.

he wants more better consumables for smithing. i just was pointing out theres more then your standards of consumable items already.
don't start pointing fingers when you are the one who assumed i have no knowledge in crafting
and yea i think it is a stupid, time wasting, question to ask. theres is much more pressing matters then you're fucking IRON KABOBS, especially when developer q&a time is so scarce.

[Sixtail]

Some good points and some lolers.

1-Wyrms need a rage timer. Save the "OMG NOT EVERYONE IS AS SKILLED AS YOUZ" protests, being able to hold Tiamat for hours while you wait for people is stupid. More proof that mob AI in this game has been a loler for years. After all this is why we have AV who gets stuck at Gobby Footprint, breakdancing wyrms and KB's who are smart as sacks of shit.

2-Mobs do need to be ramped up. It's not even a factor of skill anymore, the gear progression has made it so that most HNMS are jokes because of gear and player boosts over the last two years. Rage timer is the only thing that keeps thfs from soloing B anymore and even then you can pretty much trio the damn thing.

3-Crafting does need fixing, but not as badly as other parts of the game. Crafters are fucked if the playerbase vanishes, no one is gonna be around to buy your stuff.

4-Mob AI needs fixing. See #1 but i've always thought it funny that KB will still follow that PLD or NIN while the BLM's and melees beat him to death. It's also funny to watch Faf go down in 15 mins and still roar 3 times in a row while he's about to drop dead. Hell even a death spike flail might be funny.

5-Spread the drops out. As much as you might hate to see RMT's, gilbuyers and other idiots with Ridllis, Ebodies and whatnot, it's going to happen anyway. So why cockblock a king? Stick it in a hard ass BCNM and I promise you the level of people at the king will drop, even more so if that king's likely to mow em all down.

6-AV. Fix it, or move the drops and leave it unkillable but it's annoying now. I almost think again that mob AI is to blame or SE is pissed at how the first kills happened. I also think that with all it does, it's just a semi-perma glitched mob, it can't handle all it's given.

7-Listen to the damn playerbase. Most JPN and NAs are saying the same thing.

[Daemonxel]

synth materials are consumable. get over it. that can't be semantics there. can it.

i can read and do know he said he wanted better. well you can't get much better consumables in smithing then what you got now, if you want to think the only consumables the craft have are makibashi's and shurikens. go ahead.and who knows how he meant better. he could be asking for faster sales?, or more gil per sale? idk

consumable is somthing that is consumed. go put up a darksteel ingot or stack of shihei on AH. someone will buy it. i would call that being consumed.

he wants more better consumables for smithing. i just was pointing out theres more then your standards of consumable items already.
don't start pointing fingers when you are the one who assumed i have no knowledge in crafting
and yea i think it is a stupid, time wasting, question to ask. theres is much more pressing matters then you're fucking IRON KABOBS, especially when developer q&a time is so scarce.

Ok lets look at ingots shall we...

If I decide to make ingots I make a whooping huge 200g profit per ingot.

DS ingots can be desynthed from pauldrons yes but when pauldron sales skyrocket to 10k per pauldron and the ingot itself is only selling fo a whooping 16k and desynth is not gaurenteed.

Shurikens? well lets face it the synth sucks and they are not really in demand on this server.

I am asking for a better consumable in the smithing field. And LOL at your D. Ingot consumable analogy. Yes everything you synth in the game is a consumable you fucking tard including the crystal your using. Why not look at what I am fucking asking and use your brain next time before dragging out a symantics arguement.

[Plow]

I think what daemon is saying is something along the lines of

"RR2 Celata prz!"

etc

[Daemonxel]

I think what daemon is saying is something along the lines of

"RR2 Celata prz!"

etc

or just a consumable item that sells.

[Everlasting]

Have an NPC that can mark and item for say 500g so like a Rare or Ex item it will prompt you a second time before you sell it to a NPC.

[Pearlsea]

Have an NPC that can mark and item for say 500g so like a Rare or Ex item it will prompt you a second time before you sell it to a NPC.

Call the flag "Precious" or something XP, thats a good idea though ^^.