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    Quote Originally Posted by bercus
    Quote Originally Posted by November'd
    Id like to know if we will ever be able to exchange CoP and RotZ rewards, like the earrings, and rings, because some of us might have picked an earring and now need another for the new jobs that were added in ToAU.
    They said in the last Interview that that will not be able to change.
    Reason for them is that it was their intention(sp) to make those decisions
    a one time decision and therefor have to think twice what to take.
    Same reason they told me why race/hair change will never be possible.
    They said you can't do that in real life LOL... >.<
    I said "sure I can get a haircut ectect". Whatever we can ask gamewise questions next time. There are a few arround.
    Imo those questions are ok for now to ask. It is a lot already and I hope we get some answers. And I hope they will change a lot.
    Fuck those reward, there is more important stuff .
    Sky/Sea/BST(for some, i personally dont care )3kings/HNMs.....
    They need to understand that isnt acceptable. We pay their fucking salary by playing this game. Send them an alarm clock or give me the address and ill send one. Ask them why they still stick with that cop out, yet they have added 3 new jobs to the game. This is a big one b/c I know of alot of people, like drks with abyssal that have become blu mains and dont play their drk anymore etc.

    And I agree with the fuck 3 kings thing. They need to add something different that will make people think twice about going back to DA, and maybe for once make some endgame event that benefits every job rather than 1/4th to 1/3rd of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everlasting
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    Huh? We're capped on Zilart content. Sky isnt needed at all except for 3rd/4th jobs, M.Body is freelot, E.Body is on Bsts, handful of A.Bodys needed for multi-job rdms. Ridills always welcome. All non-xarca AF freelot, shadow mantles capped out though we still havent gotten a ring. Working on Relic #3.

    The only thing that keeps us sane is CoP content, if you can call it that. 1/x on AV and it didnt lock after 20+ sets of wynavs. Countless Tiamats. Hell, we even did Tiamat->Vrtra->Jorm one day just to give us a little but of excitement. Boy, that m.pole certainly raised our spirits. (Limbus is great, and in my opinion the games only real saving grace at this point until they add some better fights/drops from higher tiered assaults.)

    I guess you can argue that we're vets, and newer people/linkshells reaching the endgame dont have such luxurys. Well guess what, new content with better gear will get people like us out of there and open up the older content for them. Its called tiering. You can change the old stuff all you want, but the games not going to get any better until we step out of 2004 and get better encounters.
    Let me get this straight: You're saying even though you clearly have what you need for your LS (you're at a point where it's all just luxury) you're still camping kings *and* feel bad for new LSes because you blame SE's lack of new content.

    SE doesn't have a solution to your problem but I do. Stop playing. Come back when new content is released, beat it, and quit for a while again. There are a couple LSes on my server that operate this way.

    We've had this discussion over and over in other threads. SE cannot create limitless content and some players will do pretty much everything there is to do. Find new things to do or stop playing, what other options are there?

    Your completely made up "problem" applies to exactly .02% of the FFXI population.
    Seriously. Boohoo all we get are ebodies, mbodies, and dalmaticas, what kind of content is this?! How about you just stop fucking camping instead of being one of those gay ls's that manequins good gear.

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    ALSO

    A serious post. We SHOULDNT get orbs for faf/aspid from another NM. Youre just replacing the problem with another one. Instead of LSes botting fafnir you have LSes botting (whatever the fuck drops the fafnir gear)

    Since you people like pictures Ill draw a diagram.

    Right now:
    Fafnir = Fafnir Gear

    What it will be:
    Shitty NM = Fafnir = Fafnir Gear

    All someone has to do is cockblock the shitty NM and you're screwed once more. Hurray for not solving anything.

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    Yar what kuno says is right.

    The only way to solve 2390348209384209 people wanting 1 thing is instancing.
    And since FFXI has no instancing whatsoever, the next best thing is a BCNM or Assault. That way multiple people get their chances to fight in a non cockblocked zone. The only way you can get blocked is diabolos-patch style where more than 4 groups wanted to do the BCNM at once, but that's not cockblocking that's just spamming.

    If there's an orb for these, they should be in seal > orb form. Otherwise, assault. The reason ouryu / baha v2 works so well is because it can't be cockblocked, it's all from ENM.

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    Re: Questions to SE - November

    Quote Originally Posted by spooky
    Quote Originally Posted by bercus
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    Here's what you have to do. Make a graphic that shows the progression of sky gods (like a tournament bracket). Underneath all the NMs, write in Black "3 - 6 Hours to pop". Then under Ullikummi, write in giant red "12+ Hours to pop". Make the arrows to Genbu, Seiryuu, and Suzaku Green, and the Arrow from Ullikummi to Byakko Red with a Giant X through it. Then do the same thing with the 4 arrows connecting the gods to Kirin (the one from Byakko to Kirin is red with an X through it). Make it as blantantly obvious as possible that Ullikummi is the bottleneck to fighting Byakko and Kirin, simply because he pops less often.
    Hmm wanna go for it? Or anyone else?
    Sorry if i stole a pic of your website but i did this in a hurry. Only took like 20mins. And yes i fail at art. But here you go anyway. I can email you the original which is bigger, photobucket likes to resize things. ; ;

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...ityBLM/sky.jpg
    Honestly to come off as more mature/professional and serious I would take out the pic of what seems to be the Gilsellers celebrating cause its just not needed plain and simple.. If you think they are celebrating cause they are stopping people from experiencing Byakko/Kirin that just isnt the case if it were they wouldnt allow you to buy the item and would instead do it themselves

    Simpley put, the point to be brought across is the bottleneck dealing with the time/circumstances of the NM Ulli ... whether the claims go to GSers or Botting LSs or whatever the case may be ... The issues on RMT and Botting is an individual seperate issue already being address....

    Anyways thats my two cents on that.. I think the other graphic (by Shades i thnk) is very well done showing the sky bottleneck ^^


    On Dynamis/Limbus

    I agree that basically they will answer with "server space issues" or whatever variant they will come up with saying pretyt much the same thing

    Perhaps asking WHY they cannot fix this when imo it seems obviously possible being assault tho more restrictive in numbers active in the area at any given time allows for multiple groups access which theoretically could allow 2 to 3x the numbers active in one instance then on a given dynamis if it should occur and on a more frequent basis no less

    Why can they not make seperate server or more server space or whatever to accomedate for the growing endgame aspects of Dynamis/Limbus/Etc Etc

    Simply asking Yes or No Qs isnt the best route (depending) especially on the rarity of them possibly actually taking the time to answer questions from a more openly public source

    When a game Heralds its co-op team based system ... then they should feel obligated imo to change the system to accomedate for the vastly growing numbers of endgame players and events

    Given the time and numbers usually needed for endgame events like Dynamis ... laced with time restrictions and group restrictions (onle one group allowed entrance at any time ... not to say the least issue of if someone or anyone technically wanted to.. could trade a timeless hourglass and enter as just one individual with no intenstion short of ruining events for others) I find it inconcievable that they do not go about making it a priority to adjust and change these systems

    From my already limited endgame experience the current system seems to almost entice more along the lines of drama and fueding between LSs/Players rather then teamwork and comradary which should be what the game is about and was even before its released described as the main focus of the game.... hence not much solo options and the like and almost all aspects group/party based

    I think that point is something that needs to be stated and stressed when asking some of these questions being its supposed to be the basis of the system for FFXI



    now Offhand I know this thread is about Questions and most deal with changing certain aspects which obviously is good to ask if asked correctly, but is there also room for possibly suggestions... ? Ive red almsot the entire thread and some of the original thread ... and most seem to suggest changes to the current system which i think is important and need addressing

    Before posting some random idea I personally had I wanted to make sure it was appropriate per se

    Thank you all for your time.. forgive lack of spelling >< I didnt double check .. and I dont sleep much haha not that that excuses laziness

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    a moronic idea indeed. we already have ks99 adamntoise/behemoth/fafnir, fucking use them, duh. none of that orb shit to move onto another ks either, just make the 99 drop the shit. it's not like every newbie in a botter/cheater ls doesn't already have it anyways, not like it's rare or important anymore to warrant that shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bercus
    Quote Originally Posted by Silfer
    Quote Originally Posted by bercus
    They said in the last Interview that that will not be able to change.
    Reason for them is that it was their intention(sp) to make those decisions
    a one time decision and therefor have to think twice what to take.
    The thing that SE needs to realise (and don't take this the wrong way) you too is that most people did this mission on their first job and could never have expected how things would be a couple years down the line.

    You were obviously happy with your choice. I seriously think you should stress that players have progressed alot since they released this game and that having the choice now that we have multiple jobs leveled to choose a different earring or cop ring should be there.
    Sure I can ask this the next time. And no Iam not happy with a few of my decissions in game, Item wise and character style wise.
    And yes I understand you ^^.
    Thanks Bercus, i appreciate it.

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    Two quick points:

    With the BRP system, if the orbs are dropped by the Beast kings, then you don't solve anything, you just move where people camp. Instead of 100+ people in BD or DA, they'll be in Oztroja or Cavern. The orbs/access rights need to be handled in two manners. The condition for obtaining an orb would have to be dependant on some control factor, which ends up being Time or something else, or maybe a combination of the two. One way I can think of is through CP and Rank or Beastmen/Kindred Seals. The other which I would prefer is an ENM entry style where you do a small quest to obtain the key item, then you have access to the zone once in a 5 or 7 day period. Then there's a random chance of fighting NQ or HQ mobs.

    Concerning the BST charmable at levels chart, Hippo's are in Lv55 but they only exist in Lv40/50 cap zones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everlasting
    SE doesn't have a solution to your problem but I do. Stop playing. Come back when new content is released, beat it, and quit for a while again. There are a couple LSes on my server that operate this way.
    a lot of people have definitely stopped playing a couple of patches back but coming back to do what, Hydra? LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Everlasting
    We've had this discussion over and over in other threads. SE cannot create limitless content and some players will do pretty much everything there is to do. Find new things to do or stop playing, what other options are there?
    no, they can't create limitless content but they certainly can create a lot more worthwhile content than what currently exists out there. and they don't even need to make new stuff, they just need to adjust old things so they are worthwhile.

    they can put the freaking forced HNM pop items in Garrison and Expeditionary Force for all i care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Everlasting
    Your completely made up "problem" applies to exactly .02% of the FFXI population.
    because we all play on our own servers? and us being in Dragon's Aery doesn't affect the newer players that are there?

    it might be a unique problem to a very small group of people but it affects the people around them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
    Concerning the BST charmable at levels chart, Hippo's are in Lv55 but they only exist in Lv40/50 cap zones.
    Ya I noticed it a bit late, lol. Not like they're gonna revamp what we can charm anyway, and if we do I don't see more than 3 mobs on that whole chart being charmable.

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    Just wanted to note, if you're going to make arguments for why stuff should be moved to KS99 battles, point out that (at least in my personal experience), most players only do the Behemoth one with any frequency, since it's easier and has more worthwhile drops.

    At least, that's what I've been told every time I look to gather people for runs at Early Bird Gets The Wyrm or The Hills Are Alive. Damn it, I want a Stylet.

    Anyhow, adding stuff to all three of them would increase the incentive to actually, y'know, do the other ones.

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    Yes, I agree. With the BRB system, a person would need to do some sort of quest, something say a repeatable quest or enm style random battle that'll give you say a 50% chance of getting an orb to perpetuate the cycle. Anything higher than that would suck unless the time between these BC's requires it to be different.

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    no it wouldn't. bot/cheat ls have nothing going for them in life and will sit in da until the sun goes out. DIMSUN, HAHAHA.

    anyways, so long as ks99 isn't dropping ridill/dring noone will neglect the other ones..trusssssst me.

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    lots of people already neglect the 3 Kings because they just can't deal with the camping.

    but you're right, if the other alternatives don't drop Ridill and D Ring a lto of people will still be camping, which ultimately is not a bad thing. there's no need to completely obsolete the camps.

    but if the abjurations fall in other places, you will thin out the crowd.

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    a lot of people have definitely stopped playing a couple of patches back but coming back to do what, Hydra? LOL
    Sure, ISNMs, new Assaults, FROGS. They are adding content, sorry it's not what you like or as much as you like.

    no, they can't create limitless content but they certainly can create a lot more worthwhile content than what currently exists out there.
    So you don't like what's out there? Why are you still playing or even talking about the game then?

    and they don't even need to make new stuff, they just need to adjust old things so they are worthwhile.
    And the old stuff isn't even worth your time. Again, why do you even play?

    it might be a unique problem to a very small group of people but it affects the people around them as well.
    Good point.

    Like I said before, once a LS has what they *need* (not e.body for BST) they need to GTFO! They are the ones cockblocking the newer LSes. You know, like some people on these boards who have done three kings for years now but keep coming back everyday.

    And since there is no other worthwhile content for us to do, so we'll keep showing up for that 1/50 drop, and keep freelotting those abjurations to our level 40 jobs. Would we still be there if there were more rewarding drops elsewhere, from more challenging fights? Nope. Would you still be there even with the existance of more challenging fights? Well unless you plan on tanking NewUberNMofPower in your AF1, i would think so. Thats tierin
    Boo hoo, everything else is "not challening" and "not worthwhile". I'll ask for the 83th time, why the hell do you even play anymore?

    And I'll say for the 2nd time it's LSes like you who are blocking new ones, it's not SE's fault. We all know how the game works with NM pops and such and your LS chooses to still claim and kill, contrary to what you say about helping newer LSes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
    Two quick points:

    With the BRP system, if the orbs are dropped by the Beast kings, then you don't solve anything, you just move where people camp. Instead of 100+ people in BD or DA, they'll be in Oztroja or Cavern. The orbs/access rights need to be handled in two manners. The condition for obtaining an orb would have to be dependant on some control factor, which ends up being Time or something else, or maybe a combination of the two. One way I can think of is through CP and Rank or Beastmen/Kindred Seals. The other which I would prefer is an ENM entry style where you do a small quest to obtain the key item, then you have access to the zone once in a 5 or 7 day period. Then there's a random chance of fighting NQ or HQ mobs.

    Concerning the BST charmable at levels chart, Hippo's are in Lv55 but they only exist in Lv40/50 cap zones.
    should be done at the same time as the new assaults posted by Jahuran

    Quote Originally Posted by Jahuran
    So I've been thinking about assault based beastmen king battles.
    Anyone think the system in this picture might work:
    I've stolen some stuff from BRPs king system

    http://www.mkrone.com/lol/bking.jpg
    People would get their chance at beastmen kings without wasting hours upon hours of their lives, and people would get their chance at the Zilart Endgame stuff without wasting hours upon hours of their life staring at a screen ready to do nothing more than hit a claim macro.

    It might make endgame like fun and stuff instead of "orz the other LS got it again T_T"

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    And FYI, these are NOT valid "questions" to ask SE:

    - I'm bored, make more content.
    - I don't like the content that is out there, make more so I can bitch about how much it sucks too.
    - I beat everything and nothing is fun, make more hard stuff ASAP.
    - Make more powerful armor and weapons even though people can do a 1 minute Kirin.

    So serious, don't waste the thread's time with them.

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    Ask them why FFXI isn't as popular as WoW and what they would like to do to fix that.

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    @ Senoska, or however you spell the name: I didn't read it, yet, I'm on the run, but the only problem I would ever have with it is that the Yagudo king doesn't lead to Fafnir. Thats not consistant with KSNM99s! Otherwise, as long as SE fixes the game, I don't care who gets credit or who's idea they choose. I hope they just listen to people.

    Hey, no one commented on my Animal Crossing Mog House ;o!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Quote Originally Posted by Everlasting
    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Huh? We're capped on Zilart content. Sky isnt needed at all except for 3rd/4th jobs, M.Body is freelot, E.Body is on Bsts, handful of A.Bodys needed for multi-job rdms. Ridills always welcome. All non-xarca AF freelot, shadow mantles capped out though we still havent gotten a ring. Working on Relic #3.

    The only thing that keeps us sane is CoP content, if you can call it that. 1/x on AV and it didnt lock after 20+ sets of wynavs. Countless Tiamats. Hell, we even did Tiamat->Vrtra->Jorm one day just to give us a little but of excitement. Boy, that m.pole certainly raised our spirits. (Limbus is great, and in my opinion the games only real saving grace at this point until they add some better fights/drops from higher tiered assaults.)

    I guess you can argue that we're vets, and newer people/linkshells reaching the endgame dont have such luxurys. Well guess what, new content with better gear will get people like us out of there and open up the older content for them. Its called tiering. You can change the old stuff all you want, but the games not going to get any better until we step out of 2004 and get better encounters.
    Let me get this straight: You're saying even though you clearly have what you need for your LS (you're at a point where it's all just luxury) you're still camping kings *and* feel bad for new LSes because you blame SE's lack of new content.

    SE doesn't have a solution to your problem but I do. Stop playing. Come back when new content is released, beat it, and quit for a while again. There are a couple LSes on my server that operate this way.

    We've had this discussion over and over in other threads. SE cannot create limitless content and some players will do pretty much everything there is to do. Find new things to do or stop playing, what other options are there?

    Your completely made up "problem" applies to exactly .02% of the FFXI population.
    Seriously. Boohoo all we get are ebodies, mbodies, and dalmaticas, what kind of content is this?! How about you just stop fucking camping instead of being one of those gay ls's that manequins good gear.
    Because we still need certain rare drops from all those hnm, and theres no reason to move on because theres no other worthwhile content available? And we're definately not to the point where King Bodies are on mannequins, though thats probably a situation with various other LS's across servers.

    Dont put words in my mouth. You cant dispute the fact that another tier of content would open up Zilart content to people without the majority of it, which are probably the people that need it the most.

    Instancing would be fantastic, but how naive do you have to be to think that its actually going to happen to 3 year old content? Your best and most feasible bet to free up those older areas, would be to add new (preferably instanced themselves, perhaps in assault) content to steer away the people who already have the majority of the drops. New worthwhile loot table > Old loot table, hoping for one thing.

    Everlasting: If youre gonna finish every sentence with "then why do you still play?!", youre going to be ignored until you show you actually possess a brain. We play because we enjoy the game, and have friends we enjoy playing with. People arent going to quit just because they finish their gear (lol? most people -.-).

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