Offical Election 2006 Thread.

[sephir]

Jeb Bush 2008

god help the world then.


but ya Hilary Clinton is actually a good Candidate, hes actually smarter than Bill is and hes not afraid to admit it. Im actually hoping she does consider running because between her and Bill alot can be done since they have all the worlds contacts and a good line of trust built up from '92-00 era.

but ya I sort of doubt she will just because the timing would seem wrong... just think about it "George Bush sr. > Bill Clinton > Bill Clinton > George W. Bush > George W. bush > Clinton?" would be 20 years of Bush and clinton and as we've seen with this last vote, people are demanding change in politics.

[Demosthenes11]

but ya Hilary Clinton is actually a good Candidate, hes actually smarter than Bill

AFK ROFLing

[Btight]

Jeb Bush 2008

America, fuck yeah.

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[Epincus]

The animosity aimed at Hillary Clinton the person is far too much to overcome. I believe she will run, and if she gets past the primary (Which will be easy unless Barack Obama runs) she'll probably lose to either Rudy or McCain.

In the majority of America, the attitude of "Fuck anything involving Hillary" is very widespread. She'll end up having to overcome not only being a democrat, but being a Clinton.

[Lbelle]

but ya Hilary Clinton is actually a good Candidate, hes actually smarter than Bill

AFK ROFLing

he did it like twice in one sentence rofl

[archibaldcrane]

Hooray for some change, esp. hooray for d-bag Rumsfeld quitting. However, I think that, sadly, the only thing that would be able to beat McCain or Guiliani (or even maybe Jeb Bush - he's actually a pretty good public speaker/debater as I saw in the gubernatorial debate when I lived in florida even though he's a douchebag - made the democrat look like a moron) would slaughter a non-male-WASP (or Catholic I guess) democrat. Hilary/Obama/Russ Feingold don't have much of a chance IMO. I really hope I'm wrong, but this is what I feel.

[edgarfigaro]

I just hope they don't fuck up too badly in the next 2 years.

It'll be hard to top what happened these last 6 years.

I hate what the republicans have done in terms of imposing their morality and destroying our rights...but the economy is rolling right now despite a protracted war and the massive damage 9/11 caused it. Now the Democrats will try their best to dismantle it, and they probably will. Thankfully passing a minimum wage hike won't do too much damage due to the paucity of people actually making minimum wage (though it sucks for kids looking for work during the summer and old people just trying to make some extra cash, say good bye to alot of those jobs), but if they follow through on their plan to persecute Wal-Mart and the drug companies, I can see things getting really, really ugly.

[Daahan]

As far as right now and the past 6 years have gone and went,

I'd settle for a monkey at a typewriter for the '08 elections.

[Kyreth]

[ Now the Democrats will try their best to dismantle it, and they probably will.

Amazingly, people fail to remember the economy did rather good under the Democrats, too. Whether they do it in a manner that the prior rulers of the legislature approve of is a different story entirely.

Thankfully passing a minimum wage hike won't do too much damage due to the paucity of people actually making minimum wage (though it sucks for kids looking for work during the summer and old people just trying to make some extra cash, say good bye to alot of those jobs), but if they follow through on their plan to persecute Wal-Mart and the drug companies, I can see things getting really, really ugly.

Actually, the scary thing is that a larger and large number of the "new jobs" in the economy are towards the bottom end of the scale. Bumping up the minimum wage also means that the entire wage scale goes up a notch. That's not a bad thing- people need "living wages", and there hasn't been a change at the bottom line in over a decade....relative to the major changes at the top end of the scale.

You call it damage. I call it trickle-down economics at it's finest- poorer people tend to actually spend more of their income by % than rich ones, and the more money being spent and circulating in the economy, the healthier it becomes. A system where wealth pools and stagnates is a Bad Thing.

As for Wal-Mart....big companies need occasional prods to stay in line, or we end up with corrupt companies. It won't do them any great harm, and if anything it'll encourage them to stay flexible and competitive- which is good.

Drug companies? My sister's married to a guy who represents a lot of them to doctors. The profit margin is insane by most standards. Short of nationalizing the entire system, the Dems couldn't make a significant dent in that. Too much money involved, like Big Tobacco only less dirty and better legal protections.

As of today, it looks like the House and Senate go Democratic. It's about time- the country runs best when the legislature is under one party's dominance and the executive branch another. It keeps them both from complacency and things actually get done, while people are motivated to actually work in the political process rather than sit there and spout propaganda and insults.

Screw the conservative doom and gloom. A government where one party dominates the entire process is one guaranteed to only serve it's own interests and ignore the best benefits to the rest.

[Plow]

I hate what the republicans have done in terms of imposing their morality and destroying our rights...but the economy is rolling right now despite a protracted war and the massive damage 9/11 caused it. Now the Democrats will try their best to dismantle it, and they probably will.

I was thinking about saying "Ok, Rush."

Then I realized even he wouldn't be stupid enough to say some shit like that.

Bush might though lol

[edgarfigaro]

I hate what the republicans have done in terms of imposing their morality and destroying our rights...but the economy is rolling right now despite a protracted war and the massive damage 9/11 caused it. Now the Democrats will try their best to dismantle it, and they probably will.

I was thinking about saying "Ok, Rush."

Then I realized even he wouldn't be stupid enough to say some shit like that.

Bush might though lol

sure, lowest job rates in 5 years, a surging wall street even in the face of the major housing market cool down, stable inflation...during a crappy protracted war...that's not an indication of a rolling enconomy, nope not at all...moron. I'm sorry if I don't sit around pining for shitty manufacturing jobs like the unions do. People need to realize that outsourcing jobs isn't a bad thing...really, it's not. Free Trade is so much better than protectionism it's not even funny, especially with the huge cultural advantage we have as americans.

If the Democrats can get us out of Iraq without screwing around with the economy too much, we'll be in excellent shape. If they insist on screwing the economy too much, well, grad school will look mighty inviting especially with tution loan interest being tax deductible.

[Tyche]

Wal-mart just came out with the $4 drug plan, a lot of seniors are going to be extremely upset if congress interferes with that in any way/shape/form.

[Gregorio]

Actually, the scary thing is that a larger and large number of the "new jobs" in the economy are towards the bottom end of the scale. Bumping up the minimum wage also means that the entire wage scale goes up a notch. That's not a bad thing- people need "living wages", and there hasn't been a change at the bottom line in over a decade....relative to the major changes at the top end of the scale.

You call it damage. I call it trickle-down economics at it's finest- poorer people tend to actually spend more of their income by % than rich ones, and the more money being spent and circulating in the economy, the healthier it becomes. A system where wealth pools and stagnates is a Bad Thing.

Know what else happens when the entire wage scale goes up a notch? Prices go up a notch too. Where do you think the money is coming from to pay more people a higher wage? Companies aren't just going to take a hit in the pocket...they're going to raise prices and/or fire people.

Plus I'm not too sure I'm comfortable with the fact that a kid in high school who works an unskilled job requiring little to no training and for a couple hours a week is making $8 an hour.

[BerenTebogo]

Maybe its cuz I spent most of my life in MA

but I lived in FL with republicans for 2 years...and...I just can't understand it.

I honestly don't get people who support the current republican situations.

Ok I hate immigrants too, I'll say that, but fuck I don't see how keeping scientific advances on the same level as they were in 1850 is good for anyone, no matter where you live.

[Groovebox]

Wal-mart just came out with the $4 drug plan, a lot of seniors are going to be extremely upset if congress interferes with that in any way/shape/form.

Democrats would be wise not to touch that, since they love sucking the dicks of all of our seniors to get them to vote for them. Dems and sick/poor seniors were made for eachother.

[thinktank]

Jeb Bush 2008

lol. Jeb Bush is a polarizing figure like Hillary Clinton and will only have a chance for US Senate only.
I think someone unusual like the governor of New Mexico will have a better chance for president.

[Kuya]

Anyone mind filling me in on current US politics, here in PR all we got is mega corrupted buttwipes filling their pockets with money, wont be long before were anexed(sp) from the US, because of our inmense failings.