Limit Break Radio

[Zalius]

I have no idea actually record and distrubute though, so I never opened my mouth >_>

Sound Recorder and PMs sent to every single account on the forum. Gogo!

ILL BE YOUR FIRST GUEST

seriously i think id actually know how to set this up

OR

Can just have a live voice feed on the main page, and be mods so you can mute everyone and do live shows and stuff

and ill sing you the power rangers theme again (did you save that btw)

[Rocl]

I have no idea actually record and distrubute though, so I never opened my mouth >_>

Sound Recorder and PMs sent to every single account on the forum. Gogo!

ILL BE YOUR FIRST GUEST

seriously i think id actually know how to set this up

OR

Can just have a live voice feed on the main page, and be mods so you can mute everyone and do live shows and stuff

and ill sing you the power rangers theme again (did you save that btw)

i'm technologically retarded so idk wtf youre talking about and no I didnt save the power ranger theme song

[Ohemgee]

Does everyone on Odin suck ass now? Jeez, Odinites are retarded now more than ever.

[Yeargdribble]

My wife and I had actually considered being on the show. Figured having a husband/wife group would be interesting for the LBR guys, but I don't think our personalities could handle it. Perhaps we've become embittered and elitists as a result of being on the endgame scene for so long, but there are times I just cringed at things being said. I think if we were to come on the show we'd be far too blunt the entire time correcting mistakes.

This isn't about being entitled to opinions and liking a certain portion of the game play (endgame, mid game or whatever). This is about misinformation. There are low level people that listen to the show that are getting really badly misinformed. A friend that I started on the game was the one that pointed me to LBR. He was so confused about certain issues that had been mentioned. People are hearing this and believing it. The spread of misinformation is probably why so many at BG dislike Alla.

omgwtf said if you did a show about endgame you would alienate the rest of the listeners, but how much of early game do you really cover (not that there is much to cover). Sayl honestly doesn't get to say much and perhaps the reason he annoys me (other than his voice... sorry it just does) is that he's trying to chime in on things he knows nothing about, lest he not be able to speak at all.


I'm appreciative when you do correct mistakes (like the SATA thing), but you would have to do entire shows to fix later mistakes or add half a show of footnotes where you correct yourselves if you actually where to correct things. At one point I was trying to compile some advice to post, but it's very difficult. There are some quasi-subjective issues that I find totally wrong (all assaults are beating on walls, all Level II merits are worth getting). The only way to even begin to correct this would be for the LBR staff to actually participate in a variety of assaults or hit 75 and actually start meriting on multiple jobs. Aside from that what advice could I give? Could I list all assaults and how different they are and say that you should make a less biased comment about assaults?

I will at least say that Aniero seems the most mature, has a good voice for it, and swallows his pride very easily. He's more informed than the rest m of the time. Arget doesn't seem to clueless though he doesn't speak much. Most of the show is Aniero playing straight man to Kallo's immature and uneducated comments it seems with Sayl chiming in... just to have his voice heard.

[Aniero]

Is Sange secretly useful? Honest question, I'm just trying to think of a NIN that was excited about it and none come to mind. Not that most NIN merits are mind-blowing.

hmm...well, as far as I could tell the only way this would be useful is if the player had capped throwing and wasn't tanking. NINs do get A+ throwing...it's just too bad SE doesn't provide more to throw, or at a cheaper cost. Regardless, the ability might be useful to someone out there.

here are some quasi-subjective issues that I find totally wrong (all assaults are beating on walls, all Level II merits are worth getting). The only way to even begin to correct this would be for the LBR staff to actually participate in a variety of assaults or hit 75 and actually start meriting on multiple jobs.

Now, when most people talk about the misinformation we give out these are always the first to be brought up, and most of the time these are the only examples that people give to us. So, firstly, we never said ALL assaults were wall breaking....I said the ONE that I did (PSC Leujaoam Sanctum) was all wall breaking and it got turned into a running joke. So, I've made it a point to do some more assaults before the next show. As for the merit abilities, as I said before I think they were a great and dynamic addition to the game and I could see how most of the abilities were useful in some way/shape/form. Now, not everyone may agree, but call me an optimist, I think, for the most part, they're good solid additions to the game. Again, if there is information that you believe is incorrect, then please correct us. It would be nice to get a comprhensive list of the misinformation...even just a list of subjects for us to find out how me messed up. I need a little bit more to go on then just the assaults and merit abilities complaints.

That being said I think I should shed some light on how I feel the show works. We try to appeal to every level range, and yes, I know that we have neglected much of the endgame stuff, but as of right now neither Kallo or I have a ton of time to do a whole ton of endgame, shit I barely have time to level...been stuck at 73 for 2 weeks...what does that tell ya?...anyway...we thought it would be a good idea to provide to context or exposition to the lower level players as to what exactly is involved when we talk about things like jailers, gods, grands ect. Hence why we've been covering sky, sea, etc the way he have. So before each show we do research, since much of this shit we still haven't done yet, then we talk about it with our guests...or rather fire noobish question after noobish question at our guest and they do their damndest to correct the hell out of us. We're not saying, nor have we ever said, that we're experts or have amazing stories of great NM takedowns, but we are players that love the game. Again, feel free to correct us anytime.

Information correction will definitely be more prevalent in coming episodes. Going back and listening to our episodes again, it's something that we have neglected for a while now.

I know that when Omgwtfbbqkitten posted he challenged anyone to make a FFXI radio show. I don't challenge, but rather I invite you to make your own FFXI podcast. This game is all about community and I see user created media as a way of contributing to the community. We would love to see more shows sping up. Pet Food Alpha, the only other currently running FFXI podcast, does an awesome show and we really like and respect what they do, but we're the only fish out here. So if you're serious or have any questions about how to pull something off like this, again, contact me, I'd be more then willing to help.

-Aniero

[Toth]

....I said the ONE that I did (PSC Leujaoam Sanctum) was all wall breaking and it got turned into a running joke.

Misinformation! Lebros Cavern, rly :D

[Kimiko]

Well, I had the chance recently to listen to the back episodes of LBR. For the most part I think their information is realitvly good for newer players and those just starting to get into the endgame levels. I may not agree with everything they say, and I hope as they get more and more advanced into endgame situations and such their material will eventually become more concise. And the antics occasionally found in the various episodes really add a touch of fun to the show. Overall, a good effort with a few rough edges that I feel will smooth themselves out with time.

[Plow]

You want more examples? How's this one.

When you were discussing the merits, you talked about the one that improves sentinel, reducing enmity loss while using it.

You guys, being rather clueless to how the game actually works, assumed that meant sentinel reduces enmity, and discussed it as such.

The way it works is that it makes it so that anything which causes enmity loss-- for example being hit, or having a shadow absorb a hit-- will lose less enmity than it normally would.

That's just one among many. There's just too many things to list; we're not going to be your post-broadcast fact-checkers, sorry.

[Kimiko]

You want more examples? How's this one.

When you were discussing the merits, you talked about the one that improves sentinel, reducing enmity loss while using it.

You guys, being rather clueless to how the game actually works, assumed that meant sentinel reduces enmity, and discussed it as such.

The way it works is that it makes it so that anything which causes enmity loss-- for example being hit, or having a shadow absorb a hit-- will lose less enmity than it normally would.

That's just one among many. There's just too many things to list; we're not going to be your post-broadcast fact-checkers, sorry.

Yes, but this was when said meritable abilities had just been anounced. Nothing more than pure speculation at that point. Hinsight is 20/20 last I checked

[Plow]

You want more examples? How's this one.

When you were discussing the merits, you talked about the one that improves sentinel, reducing enmity loss while using it.

You guys, being rather clueless to how the game actually works, assumed that meant sentinel reduces enmity, and discussed it as such.

The way it works is that it makes it so that anything which causes enmity loss-- for example being hit, or having a shadow absorb a hit-- will lose less enmity than it normally would.

That's just one among many. There's just too many things to list; we're not going to be your post-broadcast fact-checkers, sorry.

Yes, but this was when said meritable abilities had just been anounced. Nothing more than pure speculation at that point. Hinsight is 20/20 last I checked

They thought it meant that sentinel actually reduces enmity when you use it.

You cannot possibly come to that conclusion if you understand how the game works.

It's things like that, which are really simple to most of us that post here, that people just don't get.

The fact is someone posted and asked what people thought of it, and people told him. Coming here and talking down to people that simply gave their honest opinions on the subject is just silly.

edit to clarify why this really matters: What they said was that sentinal reduces hate, like as a negative effect to counter the positives, and that this merit will make that less so. In reality, sentinel is already a hate gaining move, and this merit makes it an even more effective hate tool. There's a freaking massive difference there.

And where do you see that difference? In the level 65 paladin that listens to LBR and reads allakazham, and heard that sentinel reduces hate so he refuses to use it.

[Gippo]

wheres my fucking dirge of cerberus. lol

no seriously, im the one that won. ^^

i cant even get a goddamn email,

Gippo of Sylph

[Swatt]

Out of topic, but here's a list of pretty useless lvl 2 Merits off the top of my head.

Warrior
Aggressive aim

Monk
Penance
Invigorate (unless you like soloing a ton)

White Mage
Protectra V
Martyr

Thief
Ambush

Paladin
Iron Will

Dark Knight
Desperate Blows

Ranger
Recycle

Samurai
Ikishoten
Blade bash(somewhat now its not ranged...lolstun)

Ninja
Sange
Ninja tool expertise(lol cheap shit)

loldrg
Strafe


correct me if i'm wrong.

edit: oh and

all the retarded Ninja -san spells, all the blm spells save Freeze and Burst, since all blms merit ice and thunder potency, and I haven't seen any smn use their level 2 BPs, so i'd assume they're pretty crappy too.

[Swatt]

Is Sange secretly useful? Honest question, I'm just trying to think of a NIN that was excited about it and none come to mind. Not that most NIN merits are mind-blowing.

hmm...well, as far as I could tell the only way this would be useful is if the player had capped throwing and wasn't tanking. NINs do get A+ throwing...it's just too bad SE doesn't provide more to throw, or at a cheaper cost. Regardless, the ability might be useful to someone out there.

nins have 5 A- skills(throwing included), and 0 A+ skills

[Aniero]

wheres my fucking dirge of cerberus. lol

no seriously, im the one that won. ^^

i cant even get a goddamn email,

Gippo of Sylph

I've sent three emails personally, please contact us with your address and we will send you your game. Methinks you should check your spam folder >_>

....I said the ONE that I did (PSC Leujaoam Sanctum) was all wall breaking and it got turned into a running joke.

Misinformation! Lebros Cavern, rly :D

damn....owned...LOL!





*edited for spelling and to add response to Toth

[Correction]

Lol @ thinking picking up an endgame player to speak on LBR is going to improve it.

FFXI does not make compelling, 20-minute radio content no matter what level of play you're at. Anyone with a Ventrilo/Teamspeak server can speak to this. Eventually it all becomes dick/fart jokes.

Criticize LBR all you like but I don't know what the fuck about posting on BGboards makes you think you'd be more interesting making a podcast.

[Mr.City]

I find listening to the show is much like listening to nails across a chalkboard. You all seem to wield this extremely exaggerated version of those extremely annoying radio personalities.

[Pearlsea]

Out of topic, but here's a list of pretty useless lvl 2 Merits off the top of my head.

Beastmaster
Beast Healer
Killer Instinct
Feral Howl

[Plow]

Out of topic, but here's a list of pretty useless lvl 2 Merits off the top of my head.

Warrior
Aggressive aim
Savagery

Monk
Invigorate (unless you like soloing a ton)

White Mage
Protectra V

Paladin
Iron Will

Dark Knight
Desperate Blows
Dark seal is debatable, but I can't remember the last time it was super important I land a dark spell

Ranger
Recycle

BST
Feral Howl
Killer Instinct
Beast Healer



Samurai
Ikishoten
Blade bash(somewhat now its not ranged...lolstun)

Ninja
Sange
Ninja tool expertise(lol cheap shit)

loldrg
Strafe
Deep Breathing

SMN
The all suck, bad.


correct me if i'm wrong.

edit: oh and

all the retarded Ninja -san spells, all the blm spells save Freeze and Burst, since all blms merit ice and thunder potency, and I haven't seen any smn use their level 2 BPs, so i'd assume they're pretty crappy too.

added a few, removed one or 2

[aurik]

Out of topic, but here's a list of pretty useless lvl 2 Merits off the top of my head.

Monk
Penance

lol wut?

[Swatt]

Out of topic, but here's a list of pretty useless lvl 2 Merits off the top of my head.

Monk
Penance

lol wut?

oops my bad.