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  1. #21
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    The job pages got locked because morans were constantly edit warring over the "strengths" and "weaknesses" of each job. Unfortunately, some were locked with misinformation (like the Dark Knight one). You're supposed to put on the talk page what you want to change in the article, it's too bad the admins don't care.

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    The actual data information is decent, as far as being able to type up Blade Madrigal and find out the exact numbers from the bonuses, However all of the opinionated guides are made by Mister MilkmaAllaBrady.


    It's a decent resource, but you should know by now never to trust a "guide" written and put on a public website written by people who want others to agree with them.

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    That Haste quote from the whm guide made me cringe.

    I'm reading through and not finding that much bad with the site though. It seems to have a lot more accurate information than allakhazam. Of course, this isn't exactly a difficult feat.. but it does say something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassiraa
    The actual data information is decent, as far as being able to type up Blade Madrigal and find out the exact numbers from the bonuses, However all of the opinionated guides are made by Mister MilkmaAllaBrady.


    It's a decent resource, but you should know by now never to trust a "guide" written and put on a public website written by people who want others to agree with them.
    Milkman from 1up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vixy
    Quote Originally Posted by cassiraa
    The actual data information is decent, as far as being able to type up Blade Madrigal and find out the exact numbers from the bonuses, However all of the opinionated guides are made by Mister MilkmaAllaBrady.


    It's a decent resource, but you should know by now never to trust a "guide" written and put on a public website written by people who want others to agree with them.
    Milkman from 1up?

    Mister MilkmaAllaBrady is just a term combining Milkman (from 1up) Allakhazam, and the Brade Guide. I'm not really talking about anybody in particular, but that type of person.

    The type who is ignorant enough to assume that the way they play is good or the best, and good enough to write a guide about. The type of person who is arrogant enough to type their own opinions without backing them with data.

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    What the fuck you guys talkin' about? Seriously? The Allakhazam PUP forms are only weeks away from cracking the code that will allow PUP tank HNMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    What the fuck you guys talkin' about? Seriously? The Allakhazam PUP forms are only weeks away from cracking the code that will allow PUP tank HNMs.
    PUP/PLD

    Flash holds hate, and the Defense bonuses keep you alive! You can even cure yourself so you can configure your robot to collect the tears of your comrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer the Pointy
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    What the fuck you guys talkin' about? Seriously? The Allakhazam PUP forms are only weeks away from cracking the code that will allow PUP tank HNMs.
    PUP/PLD

    Flash holds hate, and the Defense bonuses keep you alive! You can even cure yourself so you can configure your robot to collect the tears of your comrades.
    Hmm, but does /PLD give enough EVASION?

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    Re: Ok so I was bored and was reading the ffxi wiki

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Dark_Knigh ... _Selection

    I hear alot of people sing the wikis praises but I started to read alot of this stuff.. these people have no clue about jobs. This is just one example, alot of the jobs have retarded info that seems like its out of brady guides.

    The following from that page have brought the lulz:

    However hitting is the problem with Elvaan, becuase of thier very low DEX it makes it hard for them to hit anything.
    Mithra have the highest accuracy in the game so they make great Dark Knights.
    Strengths
    * Dark Knights are able to Magic Burst off of their own skillchains.
    Ninja (as a sj)
    * A subjob usually only used in the late 60's and 70's.


    Seriously, this is a wiki. Why is there so much wrong shit everywhere.
    I'm confused.

    You would go Drk/Nin before 60?
    Elvaans dont have low dex?
    Mithras dont have the highest base accuracy in the game?
    Drks cant Magic Burst, even if they for some reason wanted to?

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    souleater rampage lawl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer the Pointy
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    What the fuck you guys talkin' about? Seriously? The Allakhazam PUP forms are only weeks away from cracking the code that will allow PUP tank HNMs.
    PUP/PLD
    Flash holds hate, and the Defense bonuses keep you alive! You can even cure yourself so you can configure your robot to collect the tears of your comrades.
    People looked at me funny when I burst out laughing for no reason in a silent room.

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    A resource like the wiki is only as good as its contributors. You guys know better? Then sign up and correct it!

    I know I did... then got in a muddle with templates LOL.

    Seriously, I've corrected quest details where I've seen them and things like that. I really have to go read that WHM guide.. that's bad.

    Still, is a nice resource and the Limbus stuff is a godsend for us n00bs to Limbus just starting out.

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    Re: Ok so I was bored and was reading the ffxi wiki

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Dark_Knigh ... _Selection

    Seriously, this is a wiki. Why is there so much wrong shit everywhere.
    Because until someone who knows their shit looks at it to improve something, a wiki entry is only as good as the person who posted it initially. Which as you noted can be crap. Edit for great justice, that's how these things work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    The job pages got locked because morans were constantly edit warring over the "strengths" and "weaknesses" of each job. Unfortunately, some were locked with misinformation (like the Dark Knight one). You're supposed to put on the talk page what you want to change in the article, it's too bad the admins don't care.
    I disagree. They're only human (or Tarutaru in a human suit in some cases ) and if you see a flaw, bring it up on the forums if for some reason admins are missing it on the talk page. Or PM them. They have to deal with the ZAMfoolery as many other forums do, that's the bad part of having an editable database. The slow kids like to pull out their crayons and try for the Mona Lisa.

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    Re: Ok so I was bored and was reading the ffxi wiki

    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Drks cant Magic Burst, even if they for some reason wanted to?
    why can't they?

    just cast the appropriate magic spell after a skill chain.
    duh.

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    drk mb so far has been fairly nice at lower levels. adds another 30-40+ damage or so in qufim. however, i'm having a problem with hate since i'm eating sushi just to hit mobs, while others don't eat anything, thus taking unnecessary enmity.

    cant hit sh*t...

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    From the WHM guide, under merits:

    Cure Cast Time -4%: I'll take it. I don't use cures very much, but there are those times where a quicker cure can save your target and when you're soloing you have a somewhat larger margin for error coupling this with Fast Cast III and Haste.
    ..sounds like a good WHM..[/quote]

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    Benidiction: Avoid at all costs. Use if you must, but if you can do without, do so. The amount of Emnity this generates almost always guarantees your death afterwards. The one exception is the Paladin two-hour, Invincible which overrides this when used first.
    In Valkurm, sure.

    Regen: Always do this before you cure someone. It restores more HP for the MP and generates way less Emnity towards you.
    The tank has 5 HP left, toss a regen!

    Paladin [under subjobs]
    As I was running through Valkurm Dunes and hearing the singular sound of a Shield Bash, it gave me this idea. Statisticaly it gives minor MP, Mind and VIT. Ability-wise it provides Shield Bash and Sentinel to give a little extra damage and defense. Later, Cover can be used to help a low level with an event, such as quests or other uncapped fights. With the recent update and the addition of Auto Refresh, this sub job is now even more viable than normal. As far as I can tell, it is now a perfectly acceptable sub job for an EXP party or anything.
    PLD sub is awesome... for annoying people in Ballista.

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    The job guide wikis shouldn't have been locked. They should have been burned.

    Delete them entirely. Then lock to prevent them from being reposted.

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    A resource like the wiki is only as good as its contributors. You guys know better? Then sign up and correct it!
    The correct way to fix a problem in a wiki is add a template letting everyone else know that there's a problem and have them fix it.

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