Damage confusion with BLM gear, help me out

[Bluedemon]

I notice that the majority of taru blms are EXTEREMELY agitated when a Hume or other race blm puts up superior numbers than theirs Talk about racism and superiority complexes.

I semi-retired BLM a while ago and thus don't expect to out damage much of anyone with it since its gear and merits aren't really up to par anymore. I know what you mean though, I see Elvaans and Galkas always trying to voke mobs off my NIN in merit parties when I grab hate as if they need to "protect" me or as if they're just upset that I'm pulling in more hate. Its cute when they do that

[Rumply]

I already have the MND necessary for max stoneskin, and I never MB, so static earring reads to me as "+2 MDB". I'll pick +5 conserve MP over +2 MDB.

No, thats saying you would rather have +5 conserve mp over 5, or 7 magic atack bonus(novio,moldy), or INT+2(abyssal).

And your right if you never ever MB then your better getting another earring for another job.

Would you rather have +5 counter earring for your mnk or a str+2 earring?

[aurik]

I already have the MND necessary for max stoneskin, and I never MB, so static earring reads to me as "+2 MDB". I'll pick +5 conserve MP over +2 MDB.

No, thats saying you would rather have +5 conserve mp over 5, or 7 magic
atack bonus(novio,moldy), or INT+2(abyssal).

Uh, no, you're being a retard. The choice isn't "what earring should I wear?", but "which of these 2 earrings would I rather have". You can't get both. I can choose either an earring with MDB+2 or an earring with CMP+5; the rest of the stats aren't relevant because they can be purchased or have zero real effect. Obviously, I'll take the CMP earring, because for earring2 it will virtually always outperform 2 INT, and I don't have access to the 7MAB earring.

In general, if you don't have novi earrings and you're not magic bursting, magnetic earring is the next best thing you can wear for efficiency.

And your right if you never ever MB then your better getting another earring for another job.

Would you rather have +5 counter earring for your mnk or a str+2 earring?

Seeing as I don't have to make a permanent, exclusive choice, I'll take both.

[Toth]

I make many gear choices based on whether both my SMN and BLM can both benefit from the item. Still happy with my Magnetic

[Kaylia]

Conserve MP is shit, even if the +5 makes it proc 5% more, it does NOT have ANY effects on the % of MP conserved, that is a random amount. I don't see why you're arguing over Magnetic being used anyway. Since you have Novio, if you use Magnetic instead of Moldavite in any situationyou fail miserably as BLM.

I don't use moldavite earring when I cast enfeebling and debuff. >_> I nuke with novio/moldavite obviously, but that's not the point of this topic. I'm still gonna argue that magnetic is better than static earring, because I've many reason to think so.

I never said it has any effect on the "%" of mp conserved, the guy from the test you keep mentioning over and over did. Like I said, his test is bullshit, and the only reason why I brought it here was to make you shut up about his innacurate result.
Magnetic, like it or not will give you a manapool around 40mp higher than than you normally have which is pretty good for a earring. When you take in consideration it also save you one macro slot for hmp and help lowering the chance of being interupted, it makes this earring the best choice in many situations.

[Luke]

I chose Static Earring and don't regret it at all. Pretty much just use it on aspid/kirin/gods though(Kited kirin omg). I thought my PLD was going to be gimp without ethereal but AF2 body is so overpowered. Really don't think that +3% would be very useful, especially as a tarutaru who mainly tanks flying wyrms.

[Bluedemon]

Theres always the option of taking neither until you level a job that benefits exceptionally well from one of the 4 earrings.

[Rocl]

wait, this games been out 3 yrs, and setideti only has one job at 75 ?

If you think that's something you should meet the guy who's been playing longer than him with one 75 job.

[aurik]

Eternus was banned lol

[Rocl]

Eternus was banned lol

Wasn't referring to him

[Rumply]

In general, if you don't have novi earrings and you're not magic bursting, magnetic earring is the next best thing you can wear for efficiency.

No. Fail.

Then why don't you use serket ring instead of a snow ring for nuking?
Why don't you use af2 boots instead of yigit for nuking?

You might as well then stack as much +MP gear while you are nuking.

Remember kids real BLMs put Damage > MP.

[NynJa]

in endurance fights I do use AF2 over yigit....

[aurik]

In general, if you don't have novi earrings and you're not magic bursting, magnetic earring is the next best thing you can wear for efficiency.

No. Fail.

Then why don't you use serket ring instead of a snow ring for nuking?
Why don't you use af2 boots instead of yigit for nuking?

You might as well then stack as much +MP gear while you are nuking.

Remember kids real BLMs put Damage > MP.

If you take 4 nukes to kill something with snow and the same 4 nukes to kill something with serket, then use serket. Both setups get you the same xp, might as well use the one that gives you more mp in case things go wrong.

And in fact, conserve MP is more powerful than just +mp because if you cast a thunder4 for half-price, you just saved yourself 20 seconds of recovery time.

You'd rather extra damage that doesn't matter instead? Now that's fail. Overkill damage doesn't give you extra reward; it's a wasting a slot.

[Rumply]

in endurance fights I do use AF2 over yigit....

I have both af2+1 and yigit, Yigit will net better results as long as you have a good tank.
side note: Yigit vs Nashira is debatable.

[aurik]

in endurance fights I do use AF2 over yigit....

I have both af2+1 and yigit, Yigit will net better damage as long as you have a good tank.

Fixed that for you. Fact of the matter, if you have a good tank-party than 10-20 damage per nuke isn't going to change the fight between win or lose. Might as well be doing 10-20 less for hate reasons and occasionally get a chunk of free mp from boots to spend constructively.

[Rumply]

If you take 4 nukes to kill something with snow and the same 4 nukes to kill something with serket, then use serket. Both setups get you the same xp, might as well use the one that gives you more mp in case things go wrong.

So if they give the same exp, go for the more damage. If "things go wrong" I doubt the little extra mp will make the differance.

[aurik]

If you take 4 nukes to kill something with snow and the same 4 nukes to kill something with serket, then use serket. Both setups get you the same xp, might as well use the one that gives you more mp in case things go wrong.

So if they give the same exp, go for the more damage. If "things go wrong" I doubt the little extra mp will make the differance.

Extra MP may or may not make a difference; doing extra 25 damage before things go wrong won't make a difference. Potentially something is better than absolutely nothing.

[Rumply]

Fixed that for you. Fact of the matter, if you have a good tank-party than 10-20 damage per nuke isn't going to change the fight between win or lose. Might as well be doing 10-20 less for hate reasons and occasionally get a chunk of free mp from boots to spend constructively.

So if you have 10 BLMs and each BLM casts 10 nukes and does 20 more dmg each nuke 200*10 = 2000 more damage.
Faster fight > "your chance to save some mp"

[aurik]

Fixed that for you. Fact of the matter, if you have a good tank-party than 10-20 damage per nuke isn't going to change the fight between win or lose. Might as well be doing 10-20 less for hate reasons and occasionally get a chunk of free mp from boots to spend constructively.

So if you have 10 BLMs and each BLM casts 10 nukes and does 20 more dmg each nuke 200*10 = 2000 more damage.
Faster fight > "your chance to save some mp"

Because a faster fight has better drops, right? I'd rather have a safer fight, and then have 2 black mages nuke 1 extra time.

[Nikko]

For all those BLMs who chose magnetic, you should just wear a loq. earring. You get the 30mp you would save w/ conserve mp, AND you get fast cast! /cheer


I keep seeing this argument that extra dmg is stupid when you would just be overnuking, but thats not really true. A lot of times extra dmg in the tier 4's allows me to finish off a mob with a tier3 instead of another tier4. There is no reason every spell you cast has to be tier4.