Version Update Highlights (11/22/2006)

**Not Kuno** · 2006-11-28 12:47

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ENIXWRIGHT.gif

Best avatar ever.

**Khamsin** · 2006-11-28 13:01

What I hope Salvage isn't:

A series of open zones with an activity similar to mining where a ??? pops every 15 minutes in a random spot easily monopolized by RMT who, once they click on the ???, get a ??? box which may contain anything from Wool Thread +1 to an AF2 piece for a job they don't need/have. Upon entering the area, you can find an RMT bazaar of several ??? Boxes for a few mil a piece, which will be the only way you can obtain one... which in turn, is the only way you can have a chance at getting said Wool Thread +1 or AF2 for a job you don't need/have.

**Janice** · 2006-11-28 13:44

or it could just be salvage = remnants... as in salvaging remnants from a lost civilization. It'll probably be 18 man assault at the final desk.

**Maguspk** · 2006-11-28 14:11

Originally Posted by Janice

or it could just be salvage = remnants... as in salvaging remnants from a lost civilization. It'll probably be 18 man assault at the final desk.

Ding Ding.

I always thought that from day one when they implemented Assaults that it would be kewl if they attempted to copy WoW in a sense that the assaults could be done with larger groups and be more end-game geared. I am hoping that is what Salvage is, an instanced end-game oriented Assault-esque quest/mission which involves some quests and nice rewards and good replay value. It wouldn't be hard either. Or maybe even make it part of the story with some decent rewards and the main purpose be to unearth a hidden Astral Candescence. I remember a cutscene awhile back mentioning there were more than one, and I know the Cute Aht Urghan Princess found one in Subterrane.

**Kuropiko** · 2006-11-28 14:26

Yeah, 5 ACs but that one in Subterrane was just a look-a-like iirc.

**solsovly** · 2006-11-28 14:30

Originally Posted by Not Kuno

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ENIXWRIGHT.gif

Best avatar ever.

<3 Phoenix Wright. The new JP version has full enligsh text as well. If it wasn't for the fact that I have close to 10 sealed games at my desk, I'd pick it up now.

**Almalexia** · 2006-11-28 14:40

Or maybe even make it part of the story with some decent rewards and the main purpose be to unearth a hidden Astral Candescence.

Four Remnant zones? Five suspected ACs in existence? One in Al Zahbi?

I can see it.

If Salvage does end up being an alliance-sized Assault, I wonder if it will progress similarly to The Ashu Talif. A tiered system where each phase/objective occurs in the same zone, but unlocks new parts of the zone with different mobs, challenges, and (most importantly) phat lewts.

This may very well be what puts our Astral Compasses to use.

And and and and, um, once you've cleared all the Salvage missions and, um, activated all the candescences, um um, and, um, then... then you gets to go to the Nyzul Isle and fight Alexander.

Yup.

He drops both the blue and purple Adaman Hauberk abjurations because he simply has the capacity to be that awesome.

**Missnasty** · 2006-11-28 15:05

Originally Posted by Septimus

Originally Posted by Missnasty

You guys are all wrong! They need to bring back some mention of the Dark Rider/Odin. He didn't appear in any of the recently added stuff.

Yup, not hide, nor hair of Odin...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...h_img_0055.jpg

Nope, nothing at all...

Oh snap

. I probably should have finished all the mission CSes first then

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**Helpoemer** · 2006-11-28 16:18

Originally Posted by Almalexia

Or maybe even make it part of the story with some decent rewards and the main purpose be to unearth a hidden Astral Candescence.

Four Remnant zones? Five suspected ACs in existence? One in Al Zahbi?

I can see it.

If Salvage does end up being an alliance-sized Assault, I wonder if it will progress similarly to The Ashu Talif. A tiered system where each phase/objective occurs in the same zone, but unlocks new parts of the zone with different mobs, challenges, and (most importantly) phat lewts.

i can see where you're coming from, but my main concern is that i don't know if everyone can do it when they want to.

i mean, take a look at the Astral Plinth during Besieged cutscenes, there are 5 or 6 small indentations on the pillar itself and one is kinda glowing, which would indicate to me that there is one indentation for each Astral Candescence.
Now what if the whole server had to compete to reap the rewards for obtaining the other Astral Candescences, and there were only 4/5 others in the game? yeah sounds pretty stupid to me too

**Septimus** · 2006-11-28 16:41

Originally Posted by Helpoemer

Originally Posted by Almalexia

Or maybe even make it part of the story with some decent rewards and the main purpose be to unearth a hidden Astral Candescence.

Four Remnant zones? Five suspected ACs in existence? One in Al Zahbi?

I can see it.

If Salvage does end up being an alliance-sized Assault, I wonder if it will progress similarly to The Ashu Talif. A tiered system where each phase/objective occurs in the same zone, but unlocks new parts of the zone with different mobs, challenges, and (most importantly) phat lewts.

i can see where you're coming from, but my main concern is that i don't know if everyone can do it when they want to.

i mean, take a look at the Astral Plinth during Besieged cutscenes, there are 5 or 6 small indentations on the pillar itself and one is kinda glowing, which would indicate to me that there is one indentation for each Astral Candescence.
Now what if the whole server had to compete to reap the rewards for obtaining the other Astral Candescences, and there were only 4/5 others in the game? yeah sounds pretty stupid to me too

Wow, I hadn't considered that... Good thinking.

**BRP** · 2006-11-28 16:50

http://vanadielranch.com/gallery/dat...8-54-43-98.jpg
[image found on google]

Keep in mind Salvage will be server-effecting. What has my attention are the little orbs of light on the AC. There is five remnant zones, not four, amirite? One of them might not have the word remnant in the name, but I'm sure there is 5. Anyway, there is 6 orbs on that AC(which kind of look like the Kaballah, spelled that wrong I'm sure), with only one being lit atm. Just throwing out some speculation.

**Almalexia** · 2006-11-28 16:52

i mean, take a look at the Astral Plinth during Besieged cutscenes, there are 5 or 6 small indentations on the pillar itself and one is kinda glowing, which would indicate to me that there is one indentation for each Astral Candescence.

Well, you have to wonder whether the plinth and candescence were found together, or if the plinth was crafted by the Empire after the AC was discovered. Has this been addressed in any NPC chat or cutscene?

But for the sake of game balance, unless SE really stresses serverwide teamwork, the other ACs will probably serve only as a means for story advancement. Then again, maybe they just don't work (see: THE BALLS ARE INERT) since this sophisti-fucking-cated compass can't seem to pick up anything.

Edit after BRP's post:
I just noticed the design on the whole of the plinth. It looks like the arcs of a circle, as if the plinth is a piece removed from a larger design...

Guess I'll assume the plinth and candescence were found together. 8)

**Khamsin** · 2006-11-28 17:00

Originally Posted by BRP

http://vanadielranch.com/gallery/dat...8-54-43-98.jpg
[image found on google]

Keep in mind Salvage will be server-effecting. What has my attention are the little orbs of light on the AC. There is five remnant zones, not four, amirite? One of them might not have the word remnant in the name, but I'm sure there is 5. Anyway, there is 6 orbs on that AC(which kind of look like the Kaballah, spelled that wrong I'm sure), with only one being lit atm. Just throwing out some speculation.

We don't know that Salvage will affect the server or be affected by the server (e.g. in the same way, say, the status of the AC and results of Beseiged and the AC recovery BCs affects the server). Likely we'll be able to do Salvage much the same whether or not the AC is in Al Zahbi or not, and everyone else will be able to do Salvage independant of each other's success or lack thereof in their own Salvage operations.

And there's only four Remnants: Bhaflau, Arrapago, Zhayolm, and Silver Sea Remnants.

There's also a completely separate and unrelated zone, Nyzul Isle, which is not a Remnant zone. However, the maps of this zone do look very similar to that of the Remnants.

**Helpoemer** · 2006-11-28 17:03

Originally Posted by Khamsin

Originally Posted by BRP

http://vanadielranch.com/gallery/dat...8-54-43-98.jpg
[image found on google]

Keep in mind Salvage will be server-effecting. What has my attention are the little orbs of light on the AC. There is five remnant zones, not four, amirite? One of them might not have the word remnant in the name, but I'm sure there is 5. Anyway, there is 6 orbs on that AC(which kind of look like the Kaballah, spelled that wrong I'm sure), with only one being lit atm. Just throwing out some speculation.

We don't know that Salvage will affect the server or be affected by the server (e.g. in the same way, say, the status of the AC and results of Beseiged and the AC recovery BCs affects the server). Likely we'll be able to do Salvage much the same whether or not the AC is in Al Zahbi or not, and everyone else will be able to do Salvage independant of each other's success or lack thereof in their own Salvage operations.

And there's only four Remnants: Bhaflau, Arrapago, Zhayolm, and Silver Sea Remnants.

There's also a completely separate and unrelated zone, Nyzul Isle, which is not a Remnant zone. However, the maps of this zone do look very similar to that of the Remnants.

i'm not getting my hopes up just yet, SE seems to be more interested in giving us useless info about LS Community update and that Stratics website i never heard of in my life before they mentioned it. So this update will probably be anything but spectacular

**BRP** · 2006-11-28 17:28

I'm pretty sure they said something about it being like besieged or server-related. Maybe, not I guess. And there are like 5 little areas/entrances in the ruins themselves, I think it's a good idea to count off them.

**Lordwafik** · 2006-11-28 19:29

What i'd like to see in FF is a real dungeon crawl, like in the older FFs.

The idea is semi there in Dynamis, except aside from Xarcabard all the bosses are lolworthy and dont drop anything good.

I really hope Salvage has it, go in > fight mobs taht are easy at the start > harder at the end, with a boss with nice shit on him, and instanced kthx.

**FFXIFlux** · 2006-11-28 20:56

Originally Posted by Lordwafik

What i'd like to see in FF is a real dungeon crawl, like in the older FFs.

The idea is semi there in Dynamis, except aside from Xarcabard all the bosses are lolworthy and dont drop anything good.

I really hope Salvage has it, go in > fight mobs taht are easy at the start > harder at the end, with a boss with nice shit on him, and instanced kthx.

Most MMORPG you'd have half a dozen bosses (or more) in the zone, each with 3-10 peices of loot on them. I much prefer that to putting the loot on the yard trash mobs with a low drop rate (and not having any real bosses at all!) The Dynamis experience is pretty lacking, but it's made worse by the fact that all the zones are basically the SAME experience and doing them twice a week for two years won't gaurentee you the AF2 you'll necesarrily want.