/yawn "Community Beta Version Update (28/11/2006)"

[Lordwafik]

Jees do I have to be technical about everything I say? Fuck that.

I'll stand by my statement saying we get alot of shit, and you know exactly what I mean.

We don't need to join meleeburn merit parties, we're fine in mount Z, hell I prefer as BLM only having to find 1 or 2 other friends, instead of having to find 5 other people to go xp.

Here's a fix that doesn't boost BLM in any way.

Add more then 7 flans in the fucking game. ToAU has like 40 merit spots for melee and only one fucking flan camp. Sure there are some wamoura camps and they are ok but those are usually taken by people soloing.

I dont know about you but that flan camp usually has 2-3 people soloing/parties competing for the same mobs.

There's more than flans that 2 blm can chain, flans are only a bit easier and have MP to aspir from, Wamoura are really easy, there's tons of camps too, and when there's nothing due to Princes becoming Moths, you can just tag a bunch and zone them (or die/RR) to reset them.

Still don't see why blms complain about the whole camp thing. When Mount Z is taken, there's buffalo/snolls to unlimi-chain on, when that's taken you can duo/trio in sea or sky (sea is easier to get to than Mount Z, and next patch sky will be too) on the same level mobs for the same xp with the same repop time (well sky is kinda harder when the eles repop T or when the camp is taken by other blms).

[spooky]

Why should we happy with a sub par 5-7k/hr when melee can get 20k+/hr?
Sea isn't that good to merit in because you don't get IS or KSs. Sky no IS. Buffalo is royal pain in the ass to get to. Where as melee can warp to very decent camps in seconds.

when there's nothing due to Princes becoming Moths, you can just tag a bunch and zone them (or die/RR) to reset them.

Also, hardcore lol @ this. Why they hell should this be acceptable for any class when so many other people don't have to do this for double-triple the xp/hr?

[spooky]

At least give us back sea manaburn. Melees have burn parties. But I doubt BLMs will have anything come their way. The change to resistance on NMs appears to be barely noticeable for non RMT groups

Are there any mobs that take like double-damage from Magic?

Yeah loads; shame they have 10x the HP of a normal mob.

[threevo]

Yeah I'm very concerned by the total lack of "wowness" so far. Normally they start with something good to get people fired up a bit. Hopefully at some point this week we will get some cool news. Maybe BLM will get something… oh wait SE don’t like mage jobs.

wow ive never seen you say this before.

[spooky]

Here's a fix that doesn't boost BLM in any way.
Add more then 7 flans in the fucking game. ToAU has like 40 merit spots for melee and only one fucking flan camp. Sure there are some wamoura camps and they are ok but those are usually taken by people soloing.
I dont know about you but that flan camp usually has 2-3 people soloing/parties competing for the same mobs.

QFT

[spooky]

Yeah I'm very concerned by the total lack of "wowness" so far. Normally they start with something good to get people fired up a bit. Hopefully at some point this week we will get some cool news. Maybe BLM will get something… oh wait SE don’t like mage jobs.

wow ive never seen you say this before.

Thanks for contributing to the discussion.

[Lordwafik]

Here's a fix that doesn't boost BLM in any way.
Add more then 7 flans in the fucking game. ToAU has like 40 merit spots for melee and only one fucking flan camp. Sure there are some wamoura camps and they are ok but those are usually taken by people soloing.
I dont know about you but that flan camp usually has 2-3 people soloing/parties competing for the same mobs.

QFT

QFT for blms who want to fight with other BLMs for flans yaok, i'll be over there making more xp/hr than you.

6 BLM unlimichaining on flans, hell on ANYTHING there, even wamouras can make 11/14k hr so long as they don't break the chain.

Also, hardcore lol @ this. Why they hell should this be acceptable for any class when so many other people don't have to do this for double-triple the xp/hr?

Nobody has to. You can fight the moths too omg. 3 minutes of prebuffing my nice solo/duo camp for relaxing XP is fine by me, you can fight over flans with all the other retard blms.

[spooky]

I don’t exp on BLM anymore (capped merits / get buffer from ENM), so I don't really know why I'm debating this anyway. *shrug* I still think it's unfair that one class should be shunned to manaburn only; and I don't believe there is enough places (if any) were BLM can get the same exp/hr as a TP burn PT.
EDIT: What is 'yaok'? Even google didn't know. >.>

[Sidanoir]

BLMs can kill same mobs as melee IMHO....why does there have to be a BLM specific camp? I see no reason why a BLM manaburn pt couldnt unlimited chain in thickets for instance or mire...unless they resist too much or something I am not aware of.

Could always go kill Aura Status and maybe get some Ulli while your at it

Anyways nowadays it seems most people have leveled up jobs specifically to merit...im sure most of you BLMs are the same...if not you gotta deal with the limitations of the job I Guess...don't forget that you can always level brd to 75 in 2 weeks to merit like a champ >.>

Just like the fact that melee mostly suck ass on stuff that BLMs do good on...for instance when is the last time anyone tried to TP Burn Tiamat or Jorm >.> Hell people mostly never used melee on Kirin...BLM and RNG only

[HAcoreRD]

Guys guys guys...lets be more creative with our fantasy requests from SE for BLM....

How about adding the spell Meteo however the spell cannot be cast unless 4/more BLM resides within the party. Kind of like that food that affects the entire party that no one ever uses. The option to cast it appears with the correct number of BLMs in the same party and initiating the cast promps a yes/no option to the other BLM. Once all BLM select yes the BLM start casting this spell.

It's early...no work today and I am only 1/2 way into my first cup of coffee.

That reminds me of Palom/Porom's "Twin" ability, both need to be alive, not casting, attacking, and use combined powers to do bad ass AOE Damage

[spooky]

Just like the fact that melee mostly suck ass on stuff that BLMs do good on...for instance when is the last time anyone tried to TP Burn Tiamat or Jorm >.> Hell people mostly never used melee on Kirin...BLM and RNG only

looooooooool BLM are totally out of fashion even for HNM and ESPECIALLY for Kirin. I take it you've not seen the 90 second melee burn Kirin vid then?
The one thing they are still good in is Dynamis, but that’s really it.

[Hyjynx]

lol this BLM vs Melee burn tirade is siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiily.

Pitting 1 job against 7 (9 if u count bst and pld) and saying S-E is playing favorites because they are adding content that 7 (to 9) jobs can benefit from +2 to 3 (rdm, brd, and whm) others that also benefit from it simply because they have to be there for it to work is just asinine to me.

But its early... and its cold and I'm tired... so maybe I'm just crazy.

Lets steer away from the BLM vs Melee bitch fest and go back to crying about more stuff for blm prz. That made more sense :x

looooooooool BLM are totally out of fashion even for HNM and ESPECIALLY for Kirin. I take it you've not seen the 90 second melee burn Kirin vid then?
The one thing they are still good in is Dynamis, but that’s really it.

Sounds to me like you just need a linkshell that's a little less focused on fads.

BLMs are still useful on many mobs in the game from the Kings, to CoP wyrms, to Jailers, to Sky gods.... In most cases melee still never see Bahamut v2.0 and the same goes for lolOuryu.

Lets face it... the endgame content in FFXI is absolute shit. It lacks diversity and doesn't give people much excitment at all... If people found a "new" way to kill a mob (lolKirin) and it's more exciting that way... Why cry about it? I know the BLMs in my shell are more than happy to be done with all our kirins sets in the time it took to fight 1.

I guess finding some silly issue to care way too much about makes your work day go faster.

Carry on~

[FFXIFlux]

Why are they adding features you can't even access while playing the game? Maybe it's time they made a windower? (and fuck console players)

[Sidanoir]

Just like the fact that melee mostly suck ass on stuff that BLMs do good on...for instance when is the last time anyone tried to TP Burn Tiamat or Jorm >.> Hell people mostly never used melee on Kirin...BLM and RNG only

looooooooool BLM are totally out of fashion even for HNM and ESPECIALLY for Kirin. I take it you've not seen the 90 second melee burn Kirin vid then?
The one thing they are still good in is Dynamis, but that’s really it.

We killed 3 Kirins TP Burn style fastest just under 2 mins....without even the best DDs in...
3 out of 100 done with TP Burn...rest done BLM , RNG style
BLMS still are better than meleing Tiamat and shit..unles you wanna get TP and SA them...

BLMs are necessary it seems for Bahamut 2...

[spooky]

Things I'd like for BLM:
Auto-Refresh
Frost etc II
Aspir II
A JA I used more than once a month. Maybe a HMP/MAB boost JA? Could be AoE. mmmmm
Decent mobs to exp on where I could use my lamia-bain(sp?) throwing thing.
A reason for people to SC/MB on exp mobs.
All Absorb spells.
New gear that is actualy BETTER than existing stuff. And not for just 30mins a week.
I'd also like to be able to fly and pass through solid walls.

[Onizuka]

Wow what babys Never thought id see the day, blm complaining... one of the best jobs in the game and you want more... Your saying you want blm to tank burn nuke etc... no not gonna happen just lvl another job like everybody else.. Alot of jobs don't normally do burn pts so it's not like blm is the only one and hell i lvled blm 70-75 in 2 days in burn pts i made myself, blm can main heal you know.

75rdm for when i feal like meritng on a mage 75 war for when i feal like meleeing, i wouldn't ask for my war to get nukes or healing abilitys nor would i ask for my rdm to get melee JA's, diffrent jobs for diffrent ocassions/situations.



On another note. Solo/duo mount Z is fun more exciting than burns when im in the mood, moths can be duo'ed easy, flans not worth fighting for but really fun to exp on when their not killed on sight. Duo or solo princes is good but yes when i want fast exp i normally just grab rdm or war.

[Lordwafik]

Spooky is a nagger.

The ironing is funny in this statement though :

I still think it's unfair that one class should be shunned to manaburn only

I guess you haven't spoken with any oldschool smn who basically had to SMN burn from 50+ because nobody invited them? Or BST burn? Etc. Deal with it dude, it's been happening since before you were playing.

[SephYuyX]

Never thought id see the day, blm complaining

BLM complain all the time, and have been for a long time. I think it first started when they realized all they get is Z.Hands from HNMs.

[Lithiani]

A reason for people to SC/MB on exp mobs.

Qutrub

Needs a really good party though.

[Onizuka]

BLM complain all the time, and have been for a long time. I think it first started when they realized all they get is Z.Hands from HNMs.

True but i ment it more for bitching about burn pts

Does suck all we get from HNM is Z-hands though for a job thats needed in drons for alot of big stuff we should get more rewards from them, nothing big or overpowering i.e a body armor with +5 mgk atk +10 ele skill +5 int and refresh, not to diffrent from weisket but good enough to use over it and wouldn't be game changing.

Hell if they just added refresh to weskit id be happy :D