Job Adjustments (12/01/2006)

[Obev]

Wow, the allakhazam paladins really don't get the idea of merit parties, do they? As if being able to dual-wield two double-attacking weapons with over 300 weapon skill somehow isn't good enough.

Also, lol @ damage to MP conversion job trait. Y HALO THAR ETHEREAL EARRING.

[Sasarai]

Ah ZAM, you never fail to amuse me, the writer of that last quote was also the one who advocated PLD/WHM cure spamming in exp.

[Vedder]

My biggest beef with meriting as a PLD is keeping hate. Doing a TP-Burn style party its impossible to be effective as a tank. Hopefully the Sentinel upgrade will be a good hate generator, and worth meriting down.

The "straight damage mitigation" description for the new sentinal sounds a lot like a type of phalanx to me. (something I think paladins have been long overdue for) Unfortunately, the 30 second duration isn't quite what I wanted to see. I was hoping for something more like defender (maybe a level 60 or 65 ability), which could be used continuously and give a gimped phalanx (like 15 points - same as level 1 phalanx 2 and would be stackable with it).

[quote:68110]pld need a damage to mp conversion job trait thatll work only without nin sub. thats just my 2 cents tho.

The sentinel thing seems like the idea toss around about -% damage taken but seems kind of like a token upgrade. Sentinel just doesnt seem to last long enough to be all that super useful. Might be more useful endgame for hate but I dont see it being all that useful in xp or merit parties.

Increased hate generation for 30 seconds is great...but @#%^ing hell its only 30 seconds. You really can't start spamming cure spells during that time b/c u run out of mp. 30 seconds in the long run is worthless. Def/Vit is @#%^ed up endgame, and there is too much involved with fixing it...to the point its not worth it. The only real feasable solution is -xx% damage...which I am glad they got the point and are adding something about it. But 30 seconds is sh*t...whether your talking about pre-merit parties, merit parties, or HNMs... 30 seconds is so minimal its rediculous.

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UR such an elitist prick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111ONE11!!

[Khamsin]

Wow, the allakhazam paladins really don't get the idea of merit parties, do they? As if being able to dual-wield two double-attacking weapons with over 300 weapon skill somehow isn't good enough.

Also, lol @ damage to MP conversion job trait. Y HALO THAR ETHEREAL EARRING.

They can't get sea, remember? So they want to learn BLU spells in an easy to get to area, and be given a job trait that converts damage to MP, instead.

30 seconds is so minimal its rediculous.

Rediculous indeed!

[Sorrower]

My biggest beef with meriting as a PLD is keeping hate. Doing a TP-Burn style party its impossible to be effective as a tank. Hopefully the Sentinel upgrade will be a good hate generator, and worth meriting down.

The "straight damage mitigation" description for the new sentinal sounds a lot like a type of phalanx to me. (something I think paladins have been long overdue for) Unfortunately, the 30 second duration isn't quite what I wanted to see. I was hoping for something more like defender (maybe a level 60 or 65 ability), which could be used continuously and give a gimped phalanx (like 15 points - same as level 1 phalanx 2 and would be stackable with it).

[quote:06ebf]pld need a damage to mp conversion job trait thatll work only without nin sub. thats just my 2 cents tho.

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The sentinel thing seems like the idea toss around about -% damage taken but seems kind of like a token upgrade. Sentinel just doesnt seem to last long enough to be all that super useful. Might be more useful endgame for hate but I dont see it being all that useful in xp or merit parties.

Increased hate generation for 30 seconds is great...but @#%^ing hell its only 30 seconds. You really can't start spamming cure spells during that time b/c u run out of mp. 30 seconds in the long run is worthless. Def/Vit is @#%^ed up endgame, and there is too much involved with fixing it...to the point its not worth it. The only real feasable solution is -xx% damage...which I am glad they got the point and are adding something about it. But 30 seconds is sh*t...whether your talking about pre-merit parties, merit parties, or HNMs... 30 seconds is so minimal its rediculous.

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UR such an elitist prick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111ONE11!![/quote:06ebf]

Last Resort is a good buffer but it lasts for 30 secs. If Maxx didn't slit his wrist over that, i don't see the big deal with pld's having to deal with the same thing. God, it's sad cause it's not the site's fault, it's just you realize these people don't even have a slight grasp on how to "really" play this game.

Ninja Edit: If they make Sea spells obtainable and f'ing losers who didn't do shit in order to get sea get them, i'll seriously quit. I laugh when i see like 50% of the blu's on our server don't have disseverment along with any of the other spells. We can close or open any of those SC's, thanks ahead of time for making me want to quit though. I can just sense they'll make it so where you can learn it off blu mobs. Either that or toss sea mobs in the undersea ruins or something, anything for the allakanoob.

[Dark Vincent]

Epic quotes there lol. Specially the MP conversion one. But hey, as Tekki said, that might be the prelude for more PLD buffs soon!

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Last Resort is a good buffer but it lasts for 30 secs. If Maxx didn't slit his wrist over that, i don't see the big deal with pld's having to deal with the same thing. God, it's sad cause it's not the site's fault, it's just you realize these people don't even have a slight grasp on how to "really" play this game.

lol sentinel is so much better than LR... Yes LR needs a buff but its nothing to whine about too much.

If they buff it to 2m that desperate blows merit will freaking ROCK.

[Sorrower]

Last Resort is a good buffer but it lasts for 30 secs. If Maxx didn't slit his wrist over that, i don't see the big deal with pld's having to deal with the same thing. God, it's sad cause it's not the site's fault, it's just you realize these people don't even have a slight grasp on how to "really" play this game.

lol sentinel is so much better than LR... Yes LR needs a buff but its nothing to whine about too much.

If they buff it to 2m that desperate blows merit will freaking ROCK.

I don't disagree with you at all, i just find it sad that with each update PLD just gets more and more like the job i wish i lvl'd earlier. Each time i see one of those dumb fucks post something though, it makes me wanna take a cheese grater to my cock. It's unbelievable how they have absolutely no idea how the game is played. Keeping hate in a merit pt? Try getting a good LS once u reach 75 if its your first job, get sea and sky. Get a joyeuse from charbydis and a justice sword from JoJ. Then go throw on your little /nin sub and go to town. I've been parsed out of the water from a pld using those swords and some of the best gear avail to him. It's disgusting to see how such low att can produce these bigger numbers than someone who's base attack is 380ish on Nin or 450 on Drk. Shows in my mind how this game is broken. Brd's tanking better than Nin's. It's gonna start falling apart soon enough.

[Sho]

Actually, I'd like a damage to MP convert on my BLU tho. >_>

[Obev]

Actually, I'd like a damage to MP convert on my BLU tho. >_>

Here ya go.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7...earringyw0.jpg

[Sho]

Actually, I'd like a damage to MP convert on my BLU tho. >_>

Here ya go.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7...earringyw0.jpg

As a trait, son. Nice attempt at sarcasm.

[Sasarai]

Because BLU aren't totally broken yet amirite

[Sho]

Because BLU aren't totally broken yet amirite

Hey, I can be hopeful. XD Not really broken per-se outside of certain exp mobs and lolballista. I put out low as shit dmg on BLU/NIN in Northernlands Dynamis and sea NMs. BLU/THF is crazy shit tho.

[Kilik]

Shield Mastery
In addition to granting a TP bonus, the Shield Mastery job trait will also prevent interruption to spell casting when an enemy's attack is blocked with a shield.

so does this finally end the Aegis vs Gjallahorn debate for best relic :D

[Sasarai]

Shield Mastery
In addition to granting a TP bonus, the Shield Mastery job trait will also prevent interruption to spell casting when an enemy's attack is blocked with a shield.

so does this finally end the Aegis vs Gjallahorn debate for best relic :D

Gungnir ftw, fool.

[Cjskater]

NOWAI Claustrum only!

[Ninjiz]

Are people still saying Blu is broken/overpowered. I thought that was only on the ALLA boards. Who cares about Balista enough to cry for a nerf of a job??? Who cares about being able to kill LOLimps with terrible DEF in the Mire? Sure blu can pump out big pretty numbers to make people go "oooh" and "Ahhh", but so what. They cant keep up that steady amount of dmg in the long run because they are limited by the hate they will get, and the MP that will run out quickly if they even think of trying to spam in party settings.

Sure i can pump out 1.5-6k dmg on a exp mob or certain NMs. Still doesnt make me come close to dotting the numbers of Nins, wars, Sams and mnks so theirs no threat to those jobs like the ppl on that damn Alla forum keep screaming for blu nerf. Their main reason being ballista.... yet they forget the official ballista design is not for 1 man army pwn everything. It was about teamwork. SO, so what if theres a job that YOU cant solo in a 1 on 1 fight. Who said yorue supposed to be able to solo anything you come accross. Do what people do to my Rdm/nin in ballista... GANG UP ON IT. Is it really that hard in ballista to say "HEY GUYS... Theres a Blu over here... Lets jump it" ?? Or does everyoneand their momma get mad that "OMGz Nerf that job, because IM unable to beat it up on my own beause i want to be a one man army".

So besides the ballista debate, and some lame T mob able to be solod by a few jobs alrdy mean its overpowered and broken? especially when im limited by MP, and cant keep up with dots of Wars, Sams, Nins, Mnks in exp setting? Or is this "broken blu" debate really only on Alla? Do people want them to add only useless jobs that are weak? Whats wrong with a job that pretty powerful?

[RKenshin]

I think I'm liking that Absorb spell casting time reduction more for NIN/DRK than DRK main.

[Vobent]

Are people still saying Blu is broken/overpowered. I thought that was only on the ALLA boards. Who cares about Balista enough to cry for a nerf of a job??? Who cares about being able to kill LOLimps with terrible DEF in the Mire? Sure blu can pump out big pretty numbers to make people go "oooh" and "Ahhh", but so what. They cant keep up that steady amount of dmg in the long run because they are limited by the hate they will get, and the MP that will run out quickly if they even think of trying to spam in party settings. Sure i can pump out 1.5-6k dmg on a exp mob or certain NMs. Still doesnt make me come close to dotting the numbers of Nins, wars, Sams and mnks so theirs no threat to those jobs like the ppl on that damn Alla forum keep screaming for blu nerf. Their main reason being ballista.... yet they forget the official ballista design is not for 1 man army pwn everything. It was about teamwork. SO, so what if theres a job that YOU cant solo in a 1 on 1 fight. Who said yorue supposed to be able to solo anything you come accross. Do what people do to my Rdm/nin in ballista... GANG UP ON IT. Is it really that hard in ballista to say "HEY GUYS... Theres a Blu over here... Lets jump it" ?? Or does everyoneand their momma get mad that "OMGz Nerf that job, because IM unable to beat it up on my own beause i want to be a one man army". So besides the ballista debate, and some lame T mob able to be solod by a few jobs alrdy mean its overpowered and broken? especially when im limited by MP, and cant keep up with dots of Wars, Sams, Nins, Mnks in exp setting? Or is this "broken blu" debate really only on Alla? Do people want them to add only useless jobs that are weak? Whats wrong with a job that pretty powerful?

holy shit..clif notes plz

[Priran]

Shield Mastery
In addition to granting a TP bonus, the Shield Mastery job trait will also prevent interruption to spell casting when an enemy's attack is blocked with a shield.

so does this finally end the Aegis vs Gjallahorn debate for best relic :D

YO MANG HORN CAN CRIT SONGS 3x :D :D :D :D