Job Adjustments (12/01/2006)

[Janice]

I wouldn't mind if they did something like have a part of BLU lvl 2 merits is being able to learn a bunch of spells like Rushing Stab and the Puk Flashga move. That way, it gives people who don't have sea a chance to learn sea attacks and people who do have sea can spend their merits elsewhere or have even more moves to use.

But to give out those spells just cause people whine, cheapens the job.

[SassiAsura]

How many patches has Pld gotten over the last year?
Sure they're trying to get the job to be effective at tanking since Nin pretty much destroyed them in the past...

Oh well, eventually they'll move on to another job and buff them the hell up too.

[Not Kuno]

I wouldn't mind if they did something like have a part of BLU lvl 2 merits is being able to learn a bunch of spells like Rushing Stab and the Puk Flashga move.

I really hope it's not like that.

[Kyreth]

i'm trying to think of these "mid-level healing and dispel blue magic spells"

but the only ones i can come up with are Wild Carrot from the bunnies in uleguerand range, Blank Stare from opos and Dispelling Wind from wyverns

edit: i'm not counting White Wind cos only a besieged NM uses that and can't really count for "mid-level"

You could also pick up Wild Carrot from the Bibiki Bay bunnies, too. Either way, it'll be nice seeing expanded places to learn BLU spells...maybe the update areas will have monsters with some of the CoP special attacks, too?

It better not.

Why? Because some of the CoP stuff is a royal pain in the rear as far as special attacks go? BLU is the only job that requires you to have all expansions to use it's spell lists properly, as it stands. COR and PUP can at least buy anything they really need from others on the AH/Bazaar, but it's not like you can pay someone to get BLU's spells for you.

[Janice]

I wouldn't mind if they did something like have a part of BLU lvl 2 merits is being able to learn a bunch of spells like Rushing Stab and the Puk Flashga move.

I really hope it's not like that.

But if the other merits were really cool, then it would be a bonus for us. While they are getting sea-like spells cause they can't get them the normal way. We are learned a really good ability or trait instead.

[Nikkei]

I did IP and name ban FFXI-APP.com, I'm taking it a step further right now.

Half alseep so not sure if this was mentioned during the thread but this...

Rampart
In addition to the defense bonus granted to party members within the area of effect, Rampart will now also provide a "Magic Shield" that will absorb a certain amount of magic damage in the same manner as the spell "Stoneskin."

I'm a little curious if there will be a modifier for this to make it take more damage. Watch it be lolCHR cause of Koenig.

[Norelco]

How many patches has Pld gotten over the last year?
Sure they're trying to get the job to be effective at tanking since Nin pretty much destroyed them in the past...

Oh well, eventually they'll move on to another job and buff them the hell up too.

I don't mind all of the changes. :D

I'm looking more forward to the Corsair shit though.

[Janice]

Why? Because some of the CoP stuff is a royal pain in the rear as far as special attacks go? BLU is the only job that requires you to have all expansions to use it's spell lists properly, as it stands. COR and PUP can at least buy anything they really need from others on the AH/Bazaar, but it's not like you can pay someone to get BLU's spells for you

Yeah, so why should all the noobs have it easy? Work for it if you want it.

[NynJa]

lol, bitch please. you aint got no girlfriend.

[Spungy]

Needs moar WHM changes though ; ;

Not really, the PLD change is a nice WHM change too. Less damage all around, better hate control. And having an AOE magic stoneskin means the tank party will probably stay up if a sleeper lets an Astral get off.

[Kenai]

Oh yeah you guys have like 3-4 more hours of my annoyance til my Mom gets home from work so I can get tucked in.

Fixed.

[Isiolia]

BLU is also the only mage that doesn't need tier II merits to get all their spells.

Whether or not they "should" get them is irrelevant, since by the same token all the tier II merit spells "should" have been acquired earlier anyway in a logical progression. Meriting them is just a cop-out.

[Kyreth]

Why? Because some of the CoP stuff is a royal pain in the rear as far as special attacks go? BLU is the only job that requires you to have all expansions to use it's spell lists properly, as it stands. COR and PUP can at least buy anything they really need from others on the AH/Bazaar, but it's not like you can pay someone to get BLU's spells for you

Yeah, so why should all the noobs have it easy? Work for it if you want it.

Be happy to work for it. There a problem with me getting it by working through a ToAU zone rather than a CoP one?

I'd just like to see more area options for getting some BLU spells, not easier ones. These days, getting people out to some CoP zones is like trying to walk to Outer Mongolia...over water...from Mexico.

[Elmer the Pointy]

ELMER IS GETTING EXCITED!

New weaponskills makes me happy.

HP Drain could help the Valoredge tank better and if available at lvl 60 is great for the ENM.

Plus unless they make Automatons curable, which they won't, especially with this new /ignorepet command, they can't be classified as a "tank". I really wish you'ld stop thinking puppets can do this at endgame...But you've probably been told that enough times, it just never sinks in.

What are you talking about?
I wish you wouldn't just make up stuff about me.

If you read my posts in the Attachments Thread or on Alla, you'd see I'm against PUP tanking. In fact, I've been active in both places for a while now I contribute a lot of information and have never once suggested a Master or Automaton could "tank" endgame. Quite the contrary, I've been vocal against the concept.

I'm merely suggesting this weaponskill is good for a situation in which the Valoredge would find itself face-to-face with a mob.

So please don't waltz in here late-November and just fabricate my opinions and play style.

[Janice]

Be happy to work for it. There a problem with me getting it by working through a ToAU zone rather than a CoP one?

I'd just like to see more area options for getting some BLU spells, not easier ones. These days, getting people out to some CoP zones is like trying to walk to Outer Mongolia...over water...from Mexico.

It's not about going to the zone to get the spell, its about having access to the zone to get the spell (mainly sea spells)

[Kyreth]

Oh yeah you guys have like 3-4 more hours of my annoyance til I go back to whacking myself off and crying over my inflatable doll so I can finnaly go to sleep.

Fixed that for you.

[Janice]

BTW, what abilities do soulflayers use? Chances are we will get magic hammer from frogs, but no clue about soulflayers.

[FFXIFlux]

Pretty good buffing going on there. Right now FFXI feels like kicking puppies and these buffs are like putting on steel toed boots. How soon before we can break 20k/hr XP or kill the baddest assed HNMs in the game with 1 party? Paladins now are already so good at their job on HNM I can't see why anyone would have thought they'd need more buffing, so I hope Salvage turns out to be pure ass rape to put this stuff to work.

[Janice]

Pretty good buffing going on there. Right now FFXI feels like kicking puppies and these buffs are like putting on steel toed boots. How soon before we can break 20k/hr XP or kill the baddest assed HNMs in the game with 1 party? Paladins now are already so good at their job on HNM I can't see why anyone would have thought they'd need more buffing, so I hope Salvage turns out to be pure ass rape to put this stuff to work.

Problem is that there are 2 games in FFXI, and they are buffing for the easy xp game (since more people probably send comments about that).

[Lordwafik]

Pretty good buffing going on there. Right now FFXI feels like kicking puppies and these buffs are like putting on steel toed boots. How soon before we can break 20k/hr XP or kill the baddest assed HNMs in the game with 1 party? Paladins now are already so good at their job on HNM I can't see why anyone would have thought they'd need more buffing, so I hope Salvage turns out to be pure ass rape to put this stuff to work.

*pinches self to see if he's dreaming*