Leveling Dark Knight with Great Axe?

[Xavier]

I pulled hate quite often as drk/nin.

DRK/WAR is great for your e-peen, but its an mp sponge. Unless your WS kills the mob, you're tanking the rest of the fight. So you either waste a ton of your healers mp, or you're forced to save your tp until the mobs hp is low enough to ws.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

When I was leveling I was consistently the highest DD and there was no point where I actually took so much damage it broke a chain or anything. Usually, when everybody is playing it that safe, there is a lot of unused MP. Putting it to use to increase damage will increase your party's efficiency. Of course, this means not doing stupid things like popping last resort after hitting the mob and not WSing above 50%.

[Xavier]

Usually, when everybody is playing it that safe, there is a lot of unused MP.

Of course, this means not doing stupid things like popping last resort after hitting the mob and not WSing above 50%.

Missing the point that DRK/NIN is relatively the same dmg without having to play it safe.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Usually, when everybody is playing it that safe, there is a lot of unused MP.

Of course, this means not doing stupid things like popping last resort after hitting the mob and not WSing above 50%.

Missing the point that DRK/NIN is relatively the same dmg without having to play it safe.

...Zerk and Double attack are rediculously huge deals. Last resort is just unneeded hate and many spells are as well. I do play DRK/NIN 90% of the time at 75 but tanking is a lot better at that level so DRK/WAR is safer then...

[Xavier]

...Zerk and Double attack are rediculously huge deals. Last resort is just unneeded hate and many spells are as well. I do play DRK/NIN 90% of the time at 75 but tanking is a lot better at that level so DRK/WAR is safer then...

I don't think he cares what to sub at 75 yet.

I think a couple of the absorb-spells, drain and aspir are amazingly awesome to use, and the freedom to use them at will doesn't come with war sub.

I'm not trying to argue about which does more damage, just that the difference isn't big enough to give up the safety of nin sub leveling. Not when the majority of parties you have won't have a great tank, etc.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Ok this is my last post here, but played well a DRK/WAR is safe and more damage at those levels. I like playing on the edge personally, finding the sweet spot of hate is fun and outperforming expectations. Its not exactly easy to do but its fun as hell and will help you do great damage. Its more possible then you think

Gotta go balls to the wall man, DRK IS FUCKIN HARDCORE MAN
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[Xavier]

Nothing says hardcore like 0 hp :wink:

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

As I said its about balance... yes you can do a lot of damage without taking too much damage. DRK/WAR DoT is FUCKIN METAL MAN!

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FUCK I SAID I WOULDNT POST AGAIN!

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[Rocl]

That megaman thing just makes you look like a tool >_>

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

If I am a tool I am merely a tool of the almighty yin to teach the word of ROCK!

:megametal:

[Xavier]

You lied to me, you lied to me twice. Two posts since you promised to stop!!!

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

You lied to me, you lied to me twice. Two posts since you promised to stop!!!

Ok I'll stop now massa

I'm ascared

[Obev]

DRK/WAR DoT is FUCKIN METAL MAN!

Horrendous nu-metal lyric macros are a bonus then? I figure with those fancy Windower macros I can put at least half a Linkin Park album into party chat before I even draw my weapon, let alone use an ability...

[Lockecole]

Lol, it shows how little Maxx has used dual-wield, because the DoT of Dual-wield completely blows away that of any twohanded weapons. Most of the time with my 8sword merits, and attack gear, Im hitting almost as hard if not harder than most jobs with 2handed weapons, and this is with Sword/Sword. If they have berserk down, its almost always harder than them. The damage curve on 2handed weapons are just broken, until SE fixes that, 1handed weapons will just be that much better.

[Elcura]

[quote="Obev"]I cares.

I don't like to feel that I'm gimping myself or my party's exp, no matter what level I'm playing at.[/quote

I never said gimp yourself >.> I said just don't bother keeping all the weapons up to cap if you aren't serious about DRK and just use 1 weapon (the best till 37 is Gaxe or GSword)

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Sorry Xav, but somebody decided to personally attack me

Lol, it shows how little Maxx has used dual-wield, because the DoT of Dual-wield completely blows away that of any twohanded weapons. Most of the time with my 8sword merits, and attack gear, Im hitting almost as hard if not harder than most jobs with 2handed weapons, and this is with Sword/Sword. If they have berserk down, its almost always harder than them. The damage curve on 2handed weapons are just broken, until SE fixes that, 1handed weapons will just be that much better.

WRONG

I've tried sword/sword a ton. Its nothing compared to what I can do with my Scythe, it was just for fun. Exactly how much do you mistreat your scythes? You don't need attack gear with them. I'm usually hitting around double what a WAR also using sushi hits, not counting zerk. I dont use attack gear, +18% haste is better than whatever attack gear can do. You can keep saying the damage curve or whatever the fuck you think is the problem is is broken, but some of us have figured out how to thrive using two handed weapons.

Of course exceptions made for Ridill

[DrObvious]

I think he's talking about his war...

[Stilgar]

Hold up, Max, I thought you DID need attack, and fucking tons of it, to get the most of high D weapons. Enlighten me, I need to take DRK to 37 anyway.

[Awoir]

Hold up, Max, I thought you DID need attack, and fucking tons of it, to get the most of high D weapons. Enlighten me, I need to take DRK to 37 anyway.

Use attack/Acc/STR gear to 37, there isn't even haste gear till then I think, and if there is it prolly isn't worth using.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Hold up, Max, I thought you DID need attack, and fucking tons of it, to get the most of high D weapons. Enlighten me, I need to take DRK to 37 anyway.

Nope, pDIF (what attack affects) is independent from weapon DMG, and delay does not factor into damage equations at all.