Ohio State vs. Who?

[Tyche]

2 games before the ohio state game, michigan played 2 incredibly weak teams. They got time to prepare, hide the playbook, and rest up before the ohio state game, and played a very good game, hell, a perfect game. Florida played 2 games against bowl teams before their loss to Auburn. They had no time to prepare, and no time to hide a playbook. Time to prepare means a hell of a lot. Don't get me wrong, i don't think Florida will win, but i definately wouldnt discount them.

My BCS bowl predictions:

Ohio State
USC
Louisville
LSU
Boise State

[Cleveland]

Can't believe I might have to root for this group of assholes.

Not sure how you can call them assholes. They haven't bad mouthed anyone, no off field problems, no trash talking. Even Smith, who has every right to toot his own horn, has layed low all season. Everytime he is asked about the Heisman, he either dodges the question, or says Ginn should win it. Sure, he is coached for media events, but it takes alot of restraint to compliment the team you just destroyed and say everyone else should get the Heisman.

[Cleveland]

2 games before the ohio state game, michigan played 2 incredibly weak teams. They got time to prepare, hide the playbook, and rest up before the ohio state game, and played a very good game, hell, a perfect game. Florida played 2 games against bowl teams before their loss to Auburn. They had no time to prepare, and no time to hide a playbook. Time to prepare means a hell of a lot. Don't get me wrong, i don't think Florida will win, but i definately wouldnt discount them.

My BCS bowl predictions:

Ohio State
USC
Louisville
LSU
Boise State

Definately not discounting them. I am hoping for, and thinking it will be, a good game. I just think the "time to prepare" argument is invalid when both teams have the exact same time. Its not like 1 team had more time than the other. Sure OSU has been done for 2 weeks, but they didn't know who they were going to face. As of Sunday, Florida and OSU are both aware of their opponent, and the clock starts now.

[Tyche]

2 games before the ohio state game, michigan played 2 incredibly weak teams. They got time to prepare, hide the playbook, and rest up before the ohio state game, and played a very good game, hell, a perfect game. Florida played 2 games against bowl teams before their loss to Auburn. They had no time to prepare, and no time to hide a playbook. Time to prepare means a hell of a lot. Don't get me wrong, i don't think Florida will win, but i definately wouldnt discount them.

My BCS bowl predictions:

Ohio State
USC
Louisville
LSU
Boise State

Definately not discounting them. I am hoping for, and thinking it will be, a good game. I just think the "time to prepare" argument is invalid when both teams have the exact same time. Its not like 1 team had more time than the other. Sure OSU has been done for 2 weeks, but they didn't know who they were going to face. As of Sunday, Florida and OSU are both aware of their opponent, and the clock starts now.

I think you are stating my point, urban meyer is an incredible coach, and it's really hard to prepare in the SEC when you play bowl teams almost every week. I was just saying that with this time, i think we'll see a florida we haven't seen all season.

[Roranora]

Picking Boise State over Oklahoma? @@; Oh how glorious that would be, but I don't think it'll happen. :/

LSU and Louisville are going to blow-out, which is sort of depressing for a BCS game, but I predict at least the Rose Bowl/Championship game will be worthwhile.

[Tyche]

I have no way at all of justifying Boise State over Oklahoma. I just think it will happen.

[Cleveland]

Picking Boise State over Oklahoma? @@; Oh how glorious that would be, but I don't think it'll happen. :/

LSU and Louisville are going to blow-out, which is sort of depressing for a BCS game, but I predict at least the Rose Bowl/Championship game will be worthwhile.

Winner of the Rose Bowl will be the pre-season #1 team for 2007. Loser will end up at #2 or #3. Basically, the Rose Bowl could be the preview of the 2007 NC game.

I think Michigan will win the Rose Bowl and be pre-season #1 for 2007. If USC couldn't get anything going against UCLA's defense, they sure as hell won't get much against Michigan.

OSU will probably be pre-season #4-5. The offense will be highly suspect, but the defense will remain intact at the end of this season, thus the 4 or 5 rating. The Buckeyes will lose a few games in '07 due to lack of scoring. Defense will be one of the best, if not the best, in the country. By '08 OSU will be back in the title run as the defense will have 3 seasons under its belt and the offense will have had some stars emerge. Michigan will be top dog in '07, but in rebuilding in '08 due to graduation/draft status of its key weapons at the end of '07.

Notre Dame will continue to be overrated in '07. By 2010, the world will have finally woken up and realized that it is no longer 1950, and Notre Dame is no longer good. Not too mention all the old farts who vote for them due to fucking Rudy, Knute Rocknie, and the Gipper will finally be dead. In 2015, after being totally snubbed for the 7 yrs, ND will break down and finally join a conference.

My hope for 2007....Michigan is 11-0 going into the OSU-Michigan game, Ohio State is 8-3 and mathmatically out of the BCS. And OSU goes to Michigan and wins handily, ruining their season. Payback for the Cooper era bitches!!!!

[archibaldcrane]

Can't believe I might have to root for this group of assholes.

Not sure how you can call them assholes. They haven't bad mouthed anyone, no off field problems, no trash talking. Even Smith, who has every right to toot his own horn, has layed low all season. Everytime he is asked about the Heisman, he either dodges the question, or says Ginn should win it. Sure, he is coached for media events, but it takes alot of restraint to compliment the team you just destroyed and say everyone else should get the Heisman.

If it isn't clear by now that I'm permanently biased against Ohio State, I don't know what will convince you. Did you notice that I called them gang rapists last post?

I'm just messing around here, honestly, but between going to Wisconsin, the U of M nat'l championship game WHILE I WAS ATTENDING U of M, and my last girlfriend being an OSU alum...

...sigh. You take all the fun out of rivalries.

Guys, did you hear that the buckeye mascot was involved in a double-murder at a gay bathhouse because nobody wanted to Bukkake him? Crazy stuff. I can't believe I have to cheer for these murderous assholes.

P.S. I heard he used one of Maurice Clarett's guns.

[Cleveland]

Can't believe I might have to root for this group of assholes.

Not sure how you can call them assholes. They haven't bad mouthed anyone, no off field problems, no trash talking. Even Smith, who has every right to toot his own horn, has layed low all season. Everytime he is asked about the Heisman, he either dodges the question, or says Ginn should win it. Sure, he is coached for media events, but it takes alot of restraint to compliment the team you just destroyed and say everyone else should get the Heisman.

If it isn't clear by now that I'm permanently biased against Ohio State, I don't know what will convince you. Did you notice that I called them gang rapists last post?

I'm just messing around here, honestly, but between going to Wisconsin, the U of M nat'l championship game WHILE I WAS ATTENDING U of M, and my last girlfriend being an OSU alum...

...sigh. You take all the fun out of rivalries.

Guys, did you hear that the buckeye mascot was involved in a double-murder at a gay bathhouse because nobody wanted to Bukkake him? Crazy stuff. I can't believe I have to cheer for these murderous assholes.

P.S. I heard he used one of Maurice Clarett's guns.

Sigh.

I think Brutus was set up. It would take at least 500 guys to Bukkake that huge head of his, so the story doesn't add up. And it wasn't Maurices gun that he used, it was one of Maurices stolen cell phones he used to call 911.

[pingpong]

not trying to derail this thread or anything but what do y'all think of the bcs system?

[Xavier]

its garbage

[archibaldcrane]

I think it's an excellent way to make money for major conferences and corporate sponsors.


Does it do something else I'm not aware of?

[edgarfigaro]

I like the BCS for one reason: it's not a playoff.

College football would lose alot if they went to a playoff...as much as I love March Madness (Tobacco Road born and bred), there is something electrifying about regular season college football. And the second they institute a playoff, it'll be lost. Everyone liked the Ohio State/Michigan game, right? If there was a playoff, it wouldn't have happened...both teams would've been assured of a playoff berth and would've sat players, saved plays, and generally saved their best for when it really counted. You can say blahblahblah it's a rivalry game, but no coach is going to risk players on a meaningless game when there's a national championship on the line.

Yes, the BCS is convoluted and unfair, yes it shuts good teams from the non powerconferences out. But a playoff wouldn't solve the current problems, just minimize them (the 5th best, or 8th best team would be the debated thing)...and would destroy the season long playoff that is college football, PLUS unfairly penalize the best team by giving lesser teams a chance to knock them out.

[Tyche]

I like the BCS for one reason: it's not a playoff.

College football would lose alot if they went to a playoff...as much as I love March Madness (Tobacco Road born and bred), there is something electrifying about regular season college football. And the second they institute a playoff, it'll be lost. Everyone liked the Ohio State/Michigan game, right? If there was a playoff, it wouldn't have happened...both teams would've been assured of a playoff berth and would've sat players, saved plays, and generally saved their best for when it really counted. You can say blahblahblah it's a rivalry game, but no coach is going to risk players on a meaningless game when there's a national championship on the line.

Yes, the BCS is convoluted and unfair, yes it shuts good teams from the non powerconferences out. But a playoff wouldn't solve the current problems, just minimize them (the 5th best, or 8th best team would be the debated thing)...and would destroy the season long playoff that is college football, PLUS unfairly penalize the best team by giving lesser teams a chance to knock them out.

If you go with an 8team playoff, the regular season would still be incredibly important. 2 losses could completely knock you out of cotention. 1 team may get fucked out of the 8 spot, but that's totally justifyable since at LEAST one team gets fucked every year with the current system, not to mention, you are now giving 8 teams a chance as opposed to 2.

[Cleveland]

I like the BCS for one reason: it's not a playoff.

College football would lose alot if they went to a playoff...as much as I love March Madness (Tobacco Road born and bred), there is something electrifying about regular season college football. And the second they institute a playoff, it'll be lost. Everyone liked the Ohio State/Michigan game, right? If there was a playoff, it wouldn't have happened...both teams would've been assured of a playoff berth and would've sat players, saved plays, and generally saved their best for when it really counted. You can say blahblahblah it's a rivalry game, but no coach is going to risk players on a meaningless game when there's a national championship on the line.

Yes, the BCS is convoluted and unfair, yes it shuts good teams from the non powerconferences out. But a playoff wouldn't solve the current problems, just minimize them (the 5th best, or 8th best team would be the debated thing)...and would destroy the season long playoff that is college football, PLUS unfairly penalize the best team by giving lesser teams a chance to knock them out.

If you go with an 8team playoff, the regular season would still be incredibly important. 2 losses could completely knock you out of cotention. 1 team may get fucked out of the 8 spot, but that's totally justifyable since at LEAST one team gets fucked every year with the current system, not to mention, you are now giving 8 teams a chance as opposed to 2.

All an 8 team playoff will do is have #9 and #10 bitching to the press about how they were snubbed and desevered a shot. And then for weeks they will preach about how the system is flawed and needs changed everytime a camera is on them.

Make it 16, and its just gonna be #17 and #18.

NCAA Tournament is 64 teams. Actually is 65 because there was so much bitching about the last spot, they hold a 1 game playoff to see who gets it. And guess what.....every year #66 who got left out of the 1 game playoff, and thus the NCAA bitches about it.

[archibaldcrane]

The amount of compassion you feel for the 9th team out of the BCS hypothetical tournament is nothing compared to what you feel for the 3rd place 11-1 team in a situation like we're in now.

1. Ohio State

2. Florida

3. Michigan

4. LSU

5. USC

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Auburn

10. Oklahoma

Noone will legitimately cry a river if Auburn or Oklahoma doesn't get a shot at the national championship. They both lost two games, and Auburn was arguably the 4th best team in it's own division. Playoff is the way to go. The BCS -rankings- make sense, how they're determined. It's just not a good way to make a 1-game playoff for the national championship.

[Cleveland]

The amount of compassion you feel for the 9th team out of the BCS hypothetical tournament is nothing compared to what you feel for the 3rd place 11-1 team in a situation like we're in now.

1. Ohio State

2. Florida

3. Michigan

4. LSU

5. USC

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Auburn

10. Oklahoma

Noone will legitimately cry a river if Auburn or Oklahoma doesn't get a shot at the national championship. They both lost two games, and Auburn was arguably the 4th best team in it's own division. Playoff is the way to go. The BCS -rankings- make sense, how they're determined. It's just not a good way to make a 1-game playoff for the national championship.

Sure, it works out in this years poll. Just like 2002 and 2005 there were only 2 undefeateds at seasons end, so the BCS was easy to decide. But what about next year, when 9 and 10 are 1-loss teams? Or when 7,8,9 and 10 are 2 loss teams? How do you justify taking 2, and leaving 2 out? It doesn't matter how many teams are in the tournament, those who just missed the mark will complain and gripe like they always do.

[Lbelle]

I saw Tim Tebow yesterday 8) 8)

[edgarfigaro]

If I were Auburn and Oklahoma, I would be bitching. Auburn has the exact same record as LSU and beat them. Oklahoma has 2 losses, but one of those was due to a clearly erronous call. What makes USC's two losses better than Oklahomas, hmm? I believe Auburn and Oklahoma would wipe the floor with Wisconsin and Boise State personally, but those 2 schools had incredibly soft schedules...so a playoff would only increase the dodging of quality non conference opponents.

See, I just made a very legitimate argument about why those 2 schools would bitch. And considering the fan bases of those two schools, you know they would bitch and bitch and bitch.

Here's a good article that sums up my position nicely http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... d=tab4pos1

[Tyche]

If I were Auburn and Oklahoma, I would be bitching. Auburn has the exact same record as LSU and beat them. Oklahoma has 2 losses, but one of those was due to a clearly erronous call. What makes USC's two losses better than Oklahomas, hmm? I believe Auburn and Oklahoma would wipe the floor with Wisconsin and Boise State personally, but those 2 schools had incredibly soft schedules...so a playoff would only increase the dodging of quality non conference opponents.

See, I just made a very legitimate argument about why those 2 schools would bitch. And considering the fan bases of those two schools, you know they would bitch and bitch and bitch.

Here's a good article that sums up my position nicely http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... d=tab4pos1

That articale, hands down, is the second most rediculous thing iver read on ESPN. Almost as bad as wojo trying to justify michigan over Florida.

smack-dab in the middle of final exams at most schools? Are fans -- and students -- expected to pay to travel for these games right before Christmas?

That is so fucking LOL. YOu think these colleges care about the student part of student athletes? Seriously, answer the question without bias. Why does athletes get in with a 2.0 GPA to schools whom require 3.0+ for regular students. And seriously, when Ohio State has a 50 day rest or w/e it is, you telling me you cannot squeeze a tournament in there? Like i said, yeah, there will be one or two teams feeling snubbed in an 8team playoff, but we have teams 4-5 teams feeling snubbed every year with the current system, what exactly is chaning in that aspect? With an 8team playoff, you don't have the subjective "Well, i think these are the best 2 teams, and only one of them can win the championship." Yeah, well , everyone thought that USC would beat UCLA, and Vegas thought that USC would beat texas. The reward outweighs the risk 10-fold.