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    blau dolch or stylet (main hand)

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    blau dolch: 178 delay, dmg 33 when under 100 tp and during WS
    possible hidden trait of +5 acc and +16 attk
    currently 3.5 million

    stylet: 195 delay, 31 dmg +4 dex, +2 agi, +1 enmity
    currently 4 million

    i'm really interested in finding out some opinions on which dagger is considered better by the end game community and if there are actually hidden stats on blau dolch that make it superior. i will be buying either very soon and would like some input. thank you.

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    Blau, not really a contest.
    Lower Delay, better damage, acc and attack. The hidden acc and attack are not possible, its basicly proven over and over. It is why Waghs/Maneater are so great.

    Besides, blau dolch is insanely easier to get anyway. Doubt you'll find a stylet unless you know someone who has one.

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    well i was all set on getting blau, but then had a thf friend put a shred of doubt in my head and recommend stylet. i figured the price of stylet was also due to rareness, and blau is definitely more accessible. there is always one or more on AH these days. if its proven about the acc. and attk, then yeah, blau FTW.

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    no dagger is better than stylet for sata mods, but that doesn't really matter with how much better a blau is overall.

    blau main, sirocco kukri offhand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyylya
    no dagger is better than stylet for sata mods, but that doesn't really matter with how much better a blau is overall.

    blau main, sirocco kukri offhand.
    gogogogogo restore puk HP >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldra
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyylya
    no dagger is better than stylet for sata mods, but that doesn't really matter with how much better a blau is overall.

    blau main, sirocco kukri offhand.
    gogogogogo restore puk HP >.>
    don't xp on puks >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Waghs...great.
    LOL. Yeah.

    Please don't spread crap like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Waghs...great.
    LOL. Yeah.

    Please don't spread crap like that.
    but they are if you can't get your hands on destroyers or relic...right?
    heh im no mnk but they are probably even better then destroyers if you have no crit. merits <.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Waghs...great.
    LOL. Yeah.

    Please don't spread crap like that.
    but they are if you can't get your hands on destroyers or relic...right?
    heh im no mnk but they are probably even better then destroyers if you have no crit. merits <.<
    tact hooks+1-2 are as good if not better than wagh, and if a monk at 75 doesnt take the time to even leech a pair of destroyers, they arent really interested in effectively leveling the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa
    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Waghs...great.
    LOL. Yeah.

    Please don't spread crap like that.
    but they are if you can't get your hands on destroyers or relic...right?
    heh im no mnk but they are probably even better then destroyers if you have no crit. merits <.<
    tact hooks+1-2 are as good if not better than wagh, and if a monk at 75 doesnt take the time to even leech a pair of destroyers, they arent really interested in effectively leveling the job
    Waghs: +18/60, acc+5 and atk+14 (+13/60 and no bonus when above 100TP, which isn't that frequent)
    TMH+1: +15/81, +10 att
    TMH+2: +16/76, +10 att

    Not sure how you come to the conclusion that TMH > Waghs.

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    dont forget those style of latent weapons work on ws too

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    i thought mnk was good in double dragonian?
    anyway i hate leeches, they are sucking my life force out of me!
    and i dont like to leech

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    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    i thought mnk was good in double dragonian?
    Everything is good in double dragonian. Its a damn easy BC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    i thought mnk was good in double dragonian?
    Everything is good in double dragonian. Its a damn easy BC.
    Yep. Which is exactly why there's no excuse to not have destroyers. It's laziness and/or retardation and nothing else.

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    Meh Destroyers drop rate can be crappy though. We've not had an awful lot of luck getting them for our mnks. One of them is 0/17 so far. Of course the only time they dropped have been when neither 75 MNK who needed was on...

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    Well, at least they are trying. It will drop eventually, but that is some crappy luck. ;/

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    Blau is the 2nd or 3rd best dagger in the game (behind Mandau and possibly Batardeau). You might not always mainhand it, say if you're fighting puks and want to go P. Harpe or X's Knife/Blau, but it's still better than P. Harpe, X's Knife, S. Kukri, or Stylet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane
    Blau is the 2nd or 3rd best dagger in the game (behind Mandau and possibly Batardeau). You might not always mainhand it, say if you're fighting puks and want to go P. Harpe or X's Knife/Blau, but it's still better than P. Harpe, X's Knife, S. Kukri, or Stylet.
    please explain why blau dolch is a better mainhand weapon than a Perseus harpe

    would 37 damage not outweigh 33 dmg regardless of the 18 attack thats extra on blau?

    And Wagh Baghnahks are probably the best hth weapon a monk can get, until they get destroyers that is. They are a perfectly suitable stand-in until Destroyers drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane
    Blau is the 2nd or 3rd best dagger in the game (behind Mandau and possibly Batardeau). You might not always mainhand it, say if you're fighting puks and want to go P. Harpe or X's Knife/Blau, but it's still better than P. Harpe, X's Knife, S. Kukri, or Stylet.
    please explain why blau dolch is a better mainhand weapon than a Perseus harpe

    would 37 damage not outweigh 33 dmg regardless of the 18 attack thats extra on blau?
    178 vs 210 delay.

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    blau it is.

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