O lawd, PS3 thief shot to death by police

[Xavier]

So if someone accuses me of a crime and I'm slow to answer the door because I'm in the bathroom, I can expect the cops to fucking blow my brains out?

Taken out of context, that sounds kinda kinky...

It really does lol.

[Sheeny]

Shoot to wound? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard of.
"When your life is danger, do try to shoot them in the arm or leg - hopefully he'll be wounded quickly enough to stop killing you and your fellow officers."
If you want police officers to be that expendable, don't expect to ever see a police officer anymore.

And the paid leave makes perfect sense to me. An investigation is made to ensure it was justified, to prevent the whole police brutality thing. The reason the leave is paid is because, presumably, the police officer(s) did no wrong (the whole innocent until proven guilty.)
It's just a standard procedure that investigates to ensure there was no abuse, while not penalizing good officers. Additionally, it's for the well-being of those who had to shoot and possibly kill someone in the line of duty - gives the officer time to recover from the incident, and the department from worrying that he/she isn't unstable and working after a traumatic experience.
If you want police officers to be put on unpaid leave everytime they do their job, don't expect to ever see a police officer anymore.

Police officers are human beings just like the rest of us, don't forget.

[NynJa]

So if someone accuses me of a crime and I'm slow to answer the door because I'm in the bathroom, I can expect the cops to fucking blow my brains out?

He wasn't even found guilty of anything yet. Thats a horrible precident to set that the cops can open fire for being slow.

he was the guy who beat down the guy for two ps3's though...


and he wasnt shot for opening the door slowly. he was shot because he was approaching the police officers with a black object that has a slight reflection in his hand. Does that not sound like a gun to you ?

[aurik]

So if someone accuses me of a crime and I'm slow to answer the door because I'm in the bathroom, I can expect the cops to fucking blow my brains out?

He wasn't even found guilty of anything yet. Thats a horrible precident to set that the cops can open fire for being slow.

he was the guy who beat down the guy for two ps3's though...

It hasn't been proven that he did anything.

[XxSlusherxx]

were talking about PS3s and were talking about a robbery, that while he beat the kid down he was unarmed then also. They had zero reason to belive that they were in danger, I'm sorry I refuse to belive it.

[Jer]

If you want police officers to be that expendable, don't expect to ever see a police officer anymore.

I see, so the answer is for police officers to view us as expendable. Gotcha.

[Xavier]

The reason the leave is paid is because, presumably, the police officer(s) did no wrong (the whole innocent until proven guilty.)

Police officers are human beings just like the rest of us, don't forget.

Presumably the man they shot hadn't done anything wrong either.

All he was at that point guilty of was taking his time to answer the door, and upon going to open the door having it busted down and being shot and killed.

[aurik]

were talking about PS3s and were talking about a robbery, that while he beat the kid down he was unarmed then also. They had zero reason to belive that they were in danger, I'm sorry I refuse to belive it.

They should always believe the worst, for their own safety. I don't see why it would be unreasonable to believe that someone could be armed in their own home, especially someone they suspected of aggravated assault. The question remains, how exactly did the kid react to the police busting in? Did he make a motion that could have been interpreted as pointing "an unknown black device" at the officer? I could see the gut reaction of the officer as justified if so.

That said, there have been some horrific events in the news recently. Here's one from early this year:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1568715

Summary: after a car chase, the PO has the passenger of a car on the ground. Passenger was unarmed. Orders him to get up. Passenger starts getting up, PO fires multiple rounds from point blank range.

[Scythiroth]

Just based on that story, since there might be some missing info, that cop should have been fired and/or arrested, but yet again, paid leave. This crap makes no sense sometimes.

[Jer]

Tried finding the news story, but didn't have luck Maybe somebody else will have seen what I'm talking about.

An older black woman, 70's or 80's, lived in a high crime neighborhood. As such, she had burglar bars on the doors and windows, as well as a decently heavy door. The police get a no-knock warrant because they have 'suspicion of drug activites'. They burst in the door, even through the burglar bars on the window. They were wearing no identifying markings, made no identifying shouts, and were waving waving and pointing their guns at her. Believing what any sane person would in her neighborhood (or anywhere for that matter) she went for her weapon. They shot her dead. Nothing was in the house, and the police were trying to get somebody to say he bought drugs in the house that morning when he was on tape somewhere doing something else. Honestly, how fucking bright are the people that plan this shit.

[aurik]

Just based on that story, since there might be some missing info, that cop should have been fired and/or arrested, but yet again, paid leave. This crap makes no sense sometimes.

Cop resigned and/or was terminated, and his trial is this January for attempted voluntary manslauter and assault with a firearm.

[aurik]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/23/atlant ... index.html

[Scythiroth]

Just based on that story, since there might be some missing info, that cop should have been fired and/or arrested, but yet again, paid leave. This crap makes no sense sometimes.

Cop resigned and/or was terminated, and his trial is this January for attempted voluntary manslauter and assault with a firearm.

Oh ok, that works. After just seeing the paid leave, I assumed it was the same as this topic.

[Sheeny]

The reason the leave is paid is because, presumably, the police officer(s) did no wrong (the whole innocent until proven guilty.)

Police officers are human beings just like the rest of us, don't forget.

Presumably the man they shot hadn't done anything wrong either.

All he was at that point guilty of was taking his time to answer the door, and upon going to open the door having it busted down and being shot and killed.

No, he was presumed to be a suspect in an armed robbery.
Taken straight from the article:
"Anytime that someone beats a person severely and commits an armed robbery, I certainly would consider him a risk and a danger," Causey said.

Either you missed that part, or you're trying to paint a picture that the officers arrived, shrugged to themselves and said "meh, slow night - let's go in and shoot him."

I dare anyone to say that had they themselves been one of those officers in that position they'd have knocked on the door and then stood there with their hands in their pockets, patiently whistling a tune and looking around until the suspect answered the door.
They had an arrest warrant for a suspect in an armed robbery, quit playing dumb and saying all he did was have a controller in his hand.

[Jer]

He didn't commit armed robbery. That quote was to cover their asses, he was suspected of beating the guy. And are you going to stand there and say, 'Hey guys, if he doesn't answer by the 3rd knock, we go in and start shooting him because he's obviously coming towards us with the intention of assaulting us with a weapon and not coming to answer the door.

Christ, the guy was a suspect in a robbery, but still. He was coming to answer the door with a controller in his hand (presumably wireless?) If he were playing he probably did what most of you would do and waited until he could pause it, then got up to answer the door.

[NynJa]

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urmmmmm its coming right for us !

[edgarfigaro]

I didn't see this anywhere on the thread, but apparently the police were on high alert because they had pictures of the other suspect with assault rifles and shotguns. I heard it on the radio today (local NPR round up, so it's legit).[/u]

[Xavier]

They had an arrest warrant for a suspect in an armed robbery, quit playing dumb and saying all he did was have a controller in his hand.

An arrest warrant doesn't make you guilty of a crime. It means theres enough evidence for them to take you in for questioning / hold you in a cell.

And yes, all he did at the time of being killed was get up with a controller in his hand.

[Sheeny]

He didn't commit armed robbery. That quote was to cover their asses, he was suspected of beating the guy.

Oh, see I didn't know that this was a work of fiction where we all got to make up stuff to add to the story. If you're changing it on a whim to "the cops lied" then I'm gonna add in that the suspect rappelled off the roof flinging poisoned ninja stars while shouting, "here's your patriot act!" Seventeen SWAT members died at the scene and the PS3 was confiscated as evidence and taken to the Police Chief's office where he plays Tiger Wood's Golf on it.
Now we're all on the same page.

[Axil]

He didn't commit armed robbery. That quote was to cover their asses, he was suspected of beating the guy.

Oh, see I didn't know that this was a work of fiction where we all got to make up stuff to add to the story. If you're changing it on a whim to "the cops lied" then I'm gonna add in that the suspect rappelled off the roof flinging poisoned ninja stars while shouting, "here's your patriot act!" Seventeen SWAT members died at the scene and the PS3 was confiscated as evidence and taken to the Police Chief's office where he plays Tiger Wood's Golf on it.
Now we're all on the same page.

What you dont know is, is thats the real truth and youre the luckiest guesser ever to live