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    We got a bad TV didn't we. ; ;

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    Maybe a noob question but I gotta know, what do order games look like on a 50" plasma TV? I got a 27" HDTV and my playstation games look like complete shit in fullscreen mode or 16:9 and i'm really liking shrinking the screen to 4:3. So I wonder what they look like on an even bigger TV. Also if anyone got any ideas for making my PSX games look any better on my TV that would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandson
    Quote Originally Posted by Zigma
    10000:1 contrast ratio, supports all hd resolutions including 1080p, go for it man.
    1366x768 native resolution isn't 1080p.
    Yeah, this TV doesnt naturally support 1080p unfortuntly, but 1080i is in the right direction. Im sure this TV can read and scale 1080i good enough that you wont really notice any difference though.

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    It's far from a bad TV, I'd look at the manual to double check the native resolution tho, that's not enough pixels to display 1080p.

    Plasma's have come along way in terms of burn in protection, and the Xb360 even has an internal dimmer which activates if you don't do anything for a while to help protect the screen. The Xb360 would look really nice on it, just be aware of the different picture modes the TV accepts and can display, and that you can't leave the same thing running for very long periods of time. I burnt in my CRT with the Signet/Protect/Shell logo when I was playing on my PS2 and got rid of cable, so I stepped up to a LCD so I didn't have to worry about it.

    Panasonic is a good brand and for whatever reasons you chose made it right for you.

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    Your 50" Panasonic is one of the highest rated Plasma TV's in th 50" range. Take a quick look on avsforums for a lot of techie talk and reviews. If you are concerned about 1080p, first ask yourself what do you have that actually outputs at that resolution? Have a HD-DVD player for your 360 already? if not, there is not a single game that is outputting at 1080p. Can you even tell the difference between 720p and 1080p? I really can't. Atleast not between the 42" monitors I see.

    Some suggestions if you are scared of burnin is during the initial hours of the tv (100-200 or so) run a dvd that switches colors constantly. You can find some to download in avsforums once again, itll "break in" your tv to help prevent burn in. Most burn in shouldn't occur anyways, that tv and almost all recent plasmas have a "pixel shift" function to help.

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    Ya there's not much 1080p content yet, and what there is is often coming from a lower resolution source and scaled up anyway (either in the studio or by your console) so it's hard to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p in most cases right now.

    Native 1080p TVs also usually cost at least 2x more than their 720p counterparts. I think you'll be much happier with the TV you bought + the extra cash than you would be with a 1080p TV. It will probably be at least another 2-3 years before there's enough real 1080p content to justify a 1080p TV, and by that time they'll be much cheaper anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
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    Plasmas: Suffer from burn in if playing games/screens with still images.
    Only in EXTREME situations - we're talking the same still image for almost weeks before you get permanent burn (continuously).
    I remember seeing the Screensavers talking about plasma's way back when (god that's a while ago now). They used plasma's on the set and displayed the Screensavers logo for 1-2h each day. The image was burned into the screen. They've gotten better with protection, but they are still prone to it where LCD doesn't have the problem at all. Also the gas slowly (like over 5-10years slowly) leaks out of the TV and they gradually go dull. For FFXI, you can expect to see a nice signet mark left on the screen.
    this is one of the urban MYTHS that i had to deal with every day and is 100% false! the gas DOES NOT leak out of the TVS. Gradual dullness of picture is normal for any tv that uses phosphors to produce the picture as the phospors the more hours they are used the less they glow. it has nothing to do with the inert gas inside of the sealed glass leaking out.

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    i just got this saturday, im loving it, Gears of War looks amazing on it
    http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_tech ... d=18011128

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    if i get any new game systems like xbox360 ill probably hook it up to my 20" widescreen lcd computer monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut
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    Plasmas: Suffer from burn in if playing games/screens with still images.
    Only in EXTREME situations - we're talking the same still image for almost weeks before you get permanent burn (continuously).
    I remember seeing the Screensavers talking about plasma's way back when (god that's a while ago now). They used plasma's on the set and displayed the Screensavers logo for 1-2h each day. The image was burned into the screen. They've gotten better with protection, but they are still prone to it where LCD doesn't have the problem at all. Also the gas slowly (like over 5-10years slowly) leaks out of the TV and they gradually go dull. For FFXI, you can expect to see a nice signet mark left on the screen.
    this is one of the urban MYTHS that i had to deal with every day and is 100% false! the gas DOES NOT leak out of the TVS. Gradual dullness of picture is normal for any tv that uses phosphors to produce the picture as the phospors the more hours they are used the less they glow. it has nothing to do with the inert gas inside of the sealed glass leaking out.
    I get asked that a lot by store staff.

    My reply is - show me the bung where you re-gas them. Can't find one? Wonder why.

    Panasonic and Pioneer are the better manufacturers of Plasma screens - I woudn't say you picked a bad tv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandson
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    10000:1 contrast ratio, supports all hd resolutions including 1080p, go for it man.
    1366x768 native resolution isn't 1080p.
    duh, lol but the TV supports the 1080p signal and scales the picture down which will give you a nice rich picture.

    The TV is a very good buy and good for years to come.

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    Recently at my work, a couple Plasmas were brought back (seperate incidents) where someone left their video game on all day/night, other person left his on all weekend or friday and saturday or something, and it burned into it.

    So we've tended to lean towards LCD tvs when people ask what they should get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeh
    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut
    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
    Quote Originally Posted by Popeh
    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
    Plasmas: Suffer from burn in if playing games/screens with still images.
    Only in EXTREME situations - we're talking the same still image for almost weeks before you get permanent burn (continuously).
    Also the gas slowly (like over 5-10years slowly) leaks out of the TV and they gradually go dull.
    this is one of the urban MYTHS that i had to deal with every day and is 100% false! the gas DOES NOT leak out of the TVS. Gradual dullness of picture is normal for any tv that uses phosphors to produce the picture as the phospors the more hours they are used the less they glow. it has nothing to do with the inert gas inside of the sealed glass leaking out.
    I get asked that a lot by store staff.

    My reply is - show me the bung where you re-gas them. Can't find one? Wonder why.

    Panasonic and Pioneer are the better manufacturers of Plasma screens - I woudn't say you picked a bad tv
    This was 3 years ago when I last actually looked at anything remotely related to plasma, I guess they took the known symptom and came up with the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borisan
    Well, we bought it a few weeks ago, and it came in last week already. I'm just asking if it looks good. I don't want to kill a TV we just blew 2 grand on...
    It will cost 500$ in 2 years, go for it!



    CTR = best technology out there, best picture highest resolution, best black levels, no one makes good ones anymore ; ;
    That's kinda sad. It's obvious most company do that on purpose to force you to buy their new TV.

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    I bought the Westinghouse w3213 32" LCD from Best Buy's Black Friday for 479. Such a great deal. Xbox 360 in 720p is amazing...and Wii with component cables and Zelda = <3

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    I bought the Westinghouse w3213 32" LCD from Best Buy's Black Friday for 479. Such a great deal. Xbox 360 in 720p is amazing...and Wii with component cables and Zelda = <3
    Got the same one lol.

    Also, I personally use my 360 on my LCD computer monitor, which is 21".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
    This was 3 years ago when I last actually looked at anything remotely related to plasma, I guess they took the known symptom and came up with the cause.
    They took a known problem of ALL tvs that use phosphor (yes CRT have this issue too) and MADE up a fake cause. just out of curiosity where did you hear this? i used to go to big box stores and talk to the tv sales people and see what kind of false information they were spreading.

    to the OP sounds like you got a good tv just be cautious about the burn in thing.

    Hitachi also makes some very nice tvs in general. they used to make this rear projection crt it was huge but it was very nice.

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    Kinda related and not really worthy of a new topic. Ive been debating buying a new Bravia, but upon dancing around buying a new TV, ive slipped across HD projectors. Aside from the obvious differences, what am i looking at? Hows the quality of HD projectors? Also been reading debates on whether DLP or LCD is better. People seem to say that for home cinema, DLP is the way to go. For office related work, LCD is probably the best. I would probably only play a shit ton of madden and watch some movies. Should i steer clear of projectors, go with a HDTV? If projector, go with a LCD or DLP?

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    I would definately avoid a Plasma because of the finite (though generally ample) hours your picture will keep that stellar brightness. Especially if it's going to be for gaming, I want the best quality I can milk out of the given output capabilities, but I also want it to last. Most gamers, especially considering the stereotype with how into games people in this specific environment seem to be, will put a plethora of hours on their gaming TV. LCDs are good, not quite as bright as a plasma in its prime, as long as you don't have a bad pixel in an annoying spot. Overall, with gaming (brighter colors than most sources and more static images due to interfaces/menus), exceptional picture, and life all being considered, I think the best TVs out there are DLPs. (I haven't been as into TVs as I used to be before FFXI devoured my life.) However, the 3 that Samsung initially released, I think the first DLPs, a 42, 50, and a 61.. were amazing TVs from what I hear.

    @zoober.. my family has a Hitachi rear-projection CRT, and they love it.. but yeah it's kinda bulky.

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    I've been eyeing this one myself:
    http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelL ... 61,00.html

    Haven't gotten it yet though... I went to go check it out at Bestbuy earlier this week, and from how the picture looks it seems really good.

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