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  1. #81
    Mr. Bananagrabber
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    Was it the "B" team (do they know you call them that?) that wiped to Tiamat 4 times in a row?

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    wawt

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    1)Vrtra: 2hours?
    Jormungand: 2h 30mins

    2)Jormungand: 17 2hours?
    Vrtra: somewere around like 25 3 hours

    3)Jormungand: Smns and Melee
    Vrtra: Smns

    4)Umm..... Vrtra yeah as far as Jorm... idk how much Moly ores go on your server but on gilga its on the border line between worth it and not;;

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    does it matter really? we wiped once out of 40+ times big deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devek
    You're claim of 24 is laughable at best.. not to mention there are other mobs in the room besides Vrtra that need to be dealt with.

    The main alliance doesn't have to be that big, and we have had wins with the people in it hovering 12-14, but we never skimped out on the black mage alliance and always had another exp party kill other shit.. thats 18+6, thats 24 people right there before you even touch Vrtra.
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    24 is possible we did it w/ like ~25

  6. #86
    Mr. Bananagrabber
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    Quote Originally Posted by takedown2
    does it matter really? we wiped once out of 40+ times big deal
    You seem to have a "great" defense for wiping to Kirin (it was our B team!) but you consistently dodge the Tiamat question like you're ashamed to admit that your A team wiped to something as simple as Tiamat.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by takedown2
    its a biz yo ppl are here to be the best and look the best - we provide.
    stop typing

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    1: I'm drunk.

    9: Takedown, you used to be cool when you weren't in KON. What happened?

    4: KON LS has made really cool people turn into retards. All of my "friends" have gone to KON and ended up being like Takedown or worse.

    4: KON, Jeryhn and Takedown, u call our LS names, say we have the dregs of the server, I have one fucking name for you. Cato. If anyone from BG wants to know about Cato, I can dig up about 80 threads from KI talking about how Cato's LS is the biggest joke of Cerberus, but that wouldn't matter, because iKon is the joke now. Open mouth, insert foot.

    17: Since you guys like to steal people's AV's, and to quote a famous Takedown statement, your next JOL, we will be there in force, and we will take AV from you when you guys wipe. BGforums know all about it, and I'm sure nobody will take your side, since you guys were the first to stoop so low to steal an AV.

    sup.

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    i knew you before this man, before you started taking drugs man. you used to be supercool to hang out with man, come on man, i know youre better then this

  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro
    God I hope you guys get Tiamat from now on, Sady. Tired of youknowwho and their THE EGG IS THE NEST crap.
    I take offence to this. :D

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    whoa lol. nothing beats me stealing tiamat from pai mei with four people, holding it for an hour then killing it!


    o wait, yeah.... fire crystals

    http://tiamatmyspacesuicide.ytmnd.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarag
    Quote Originally Posted by Devek
    You're claim of 24 is laughable at best.. not to mention there are other mobs in the room besides Vrtra that need to be dealt with.

    The main alliance doesn't have to be that big, and we have had wins with the people in it hovering 12-14, but we never skimped out on the black mage alliance and always had another exp party kill other shit.. thats 18+6, thats 24 people right there before you even touch Vrtra.
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    24 is possible we did it w/ like ~25
    12 people is *enough* to damage and tank vrtra, this is where you put your extras if needed to speed the fight up.

    Room pops/vrtra summons take 2 6-man parties tops, good brd/rdm/blm/blm/blm/blm times 2 and the game is over. 4 blm's is overkill, the last 2 kills I did were with 3 in one and 4 in the other. BRD's need to know how to lullaby and RDM's need to know you can sleep ghosts. This is one place where I enjoyed RDM/SMN as you are just running and casting like mad and never resting ever.

    Also protip is to have everyone use poison pots 100% of the time, it's like 3 stacks per person tops and saves much ass. There's your 24 person kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer
    Quote Originally Posted by Rarag
    Quote Originally Posted by Devek
    You're claim of 24 is laughable at best.. not to mention there are other mobs in the room besides Vrtra that need to be dealt with.

    The main alliance doesn't have to be that big, and we have had wins with the people in it hovering 12-14, but we never skimped out on the black mage alliance and always had another exp party kill other shit.. thats 18+6, thats 24 people right there before you even touch Vrtra.
    .
    24 is possible we did it w/ like ~25
    12 people is *enough* to damage and tank vrtra, this is where you put your extras if needed to speed the fight up.

    Room pops/vrtra summons take 2 6-man parties tops, good brd/rdm/blm/blm/blm/blm times 2 and the game is over. 4 blm's is overkill, the last 2 kills I did were with 3 in one and 4 in the other. BRD's need to know how to lullaby and RDM's need to know you can sleep ghosts. This is one place where I enjoyed RDM/SMN as you are just running and casting like mad and never resting ever.

    Also protip is to have everyone use poison pots 100% of the time, it's like 3 stacks per person tops and saves much ass. There's your 24 person kill.
    Agree with the above statement, vrtra is a total pussy...the only thing that really hurts is back-to-back Cyclone Wings or all your tanks getting roared in a short amount of time, but the former shouldnt even happen as long as you have a few good stunners if you're using the kite tactic.

    Dealing with adds is a pain in the ass if half your group has never fought vrtra, BLMs slow to nuke makes his summons overwhelming...the last time we fought vrtra there were at least 2-3 summons out at any given time and i dont know what really caused it but it ended up being too much to deal with. As long as your BLMs know that dealing with adds is the most important part of the fight and they need to kill them as soon as possible, you shouldnt have any "wipe-imminent" problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalil
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro
    God I hope you guys get Tiamat from now on, Sady. Tired of youknowwho and their THE EGG IS THE NEST crap.
    I take offence to this. :D
    Listen, you have a Ridill now. You can't take offense to anything. Just insult me 2-3 times.

  15. #95
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    Jorm and Vrtra are pretty much just occasional "fun" events for new recruits and for getting people titles, when we have nothing better do do. Tiamat = claim and kill whenever possible since gaiters are insanrly useful and you never max out on them.

    The problem with Jorm is... it's not fun. Especially for BLMs who have to hold the links. It'll make anyone want to kill themselves. Vrtra is fun as long as you don't do it often. Last vrtra we ate a spike flail and recovered without wiping, which was fun. One day we killed Vrtra -> Tiamat -> Jorm within 9 hours just for the hell of it... not sure if anyone else has ever done that sort of marathon.

    Basically... it's pointless for gil drops. Ouryu and Bahamut2 are easier to organize, more fun, and drop much, much more than Jorm and Vrtra. Jeuno helm and skillup staff... no thanks. I guess if you sold gaiters, Tiamat would be profitable... but only RMT sell gaiters. There's no way everyone in your LS that can use them has them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz
    I guess if you sold gaiters, Tiamat would be profitable... but only RMT sell gaiters. There's no way everyone in your LS that can use them has them.
    Really? I've sold 2 so far, and I heard Iron LS in Bismark sells Gaiters too. This makes us RMT then?
    oh wait...this coming from a guy that shouts VIRUNA me plz at Tiamat/ ERASE my slow plz at Ouryu because I don't have WHM sub orz!
    /sarcasm off.
    Obviously this coming from a one-sided ONLY minded Kerberoz (/RDM onry), he views this pretty one-sided too. Ie sell gaiters = RMT onry!
    Ironic eh?

    Anyway sticking to OP, Tiamat is the only good money NM as many had already mentioned. Bahamut v2 also provides us with steady income with the regular cashmere cloth drop on every other run.
    As for Rare/EX from Bahamut, that's a good source of income too.
    We sold Bahamut Staff for 40M,
    Bahamut Mask 10M ish,
    and so forth.

    We farm Jormy for Pole not for drops, as we had been flooding the market now with 600k Moly ores and this will go down even more.

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    4: KON LS has made really cool people turn into retards. All of my "friends" have gone to KON and ended up being like Takedown or worse.
    WoW has the same effect on people, lol.

  18. #98
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    wafflecopters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz
    I guess if you sold gaiters, Tiamat would be profitable... but only RMT sell gaiters. There's no way everyone in your LS that can use them has them.
    If only RMT sell gaiters how did Hung get his? I've heard of a few BST LSs killing Tiamat and selling gaiters, I think Zigma did this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz
    I guess if you sold gaiters, Tiamat would be profitable... but only RMT sell gaiters. There's no way everyone in your LS that can use them has them.
    If only RMT sell gaiters how did Hung get his? I've heard of a few BST LSs killing Tiamat and selling gaiters, I think Zigma did this?
    Didn't someone quit and sell them? That's basically RMT. And Hung.. lol...

    Although Stellar would probably sell them to finance his Aegis, if you claimed any more Tiamats.

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