House

[Maguspk]

I think you need to go back and read the posts that led up to this one from the start. The Oath doesn't say you have to like your patients. It doesn't say you have to respect them or even give a shit about it (I'll concede that it RECOMMENDS warmth, sympathy and understanding, but these are in no way obligations). It merely says that you are to act in the patient's best interests. (context is important)

As such (and pay attention, because this is/was my main point) Cameron was projecting her irrelevant values onto House and Chase, which is not OK.

I'll give you that House tends to tread in the gray area as often as not, but you must also remember that in his field, to do his job well, it is usually necessary and justified, especially with the patients that are stupid, lying, or crazy (which seems encompass most of them).

I really don't feel like putting anymore work into this argument, so go ahead and assume you've won if that will help you sleep at night. It isn't going to change that Cameron was a whiny bitch.

Nobody is saying House isn't a good doctor, but the fact remains that he does what no other doctor would because he is definitely breaking rules a lot of the time. There is a reason the Dean of Medicine is such an important character of the show, lol.

Just finished watching the most recent episode. I really liked it, I feel really bad that Wilson got treated like a door mat once again but the ending was a little uplifting. "Baby steps" haha. I too enjoyed the random House team moments thrown into the mix, it was kind of hilarious how they'd be rushing or totally relaxed.

[Sylvrdragon]

Nobody is saying House isn't a good doctor, but the fact remains that he does what no other doctor would because he is definitely breaking rules a lot of the time. There is a reason the Dean of Medicine is such an important character of the show, lol.

Just finished watching the most recent episode. I really liked it, I feel really bad that Wilson got treated like a door mat once again but the ending was a little uplifting. "Baby steps" haha. I too enjoyed the random House team moments thrown into the mix, it was kind of hilarious how they'd be rushing or totally relaxed.

This kinda split into 2 different issues for me; one of which is subjective and the other that is most likely just semantics.

The first issue is whether Cameron was "Right" or not. I think that she thinks that hers is the only way to do shit, and people who think like that really piss me off. She basically admitted that she's always been trying to "Change" people, whether they want to be changed or not, and whether their issues are objective or not. That House isn't nice only seems to be an issue for her (and sometimes Wilson). It isn't an objective problem. It's just her personal fucking preferences coming into play.

The second issue is that I believe a vast majority of House's actions can be justified as "Medically relevant" to his cases. Even when they're in the gray area, I would say they're usually in the patient's best interest (which I believe to be the main point of the Oath). As such, if the Oath is what we're considering the "Rules", then I don't think he truly breaks them as often as it seems. Now the "Law" on the other hand... That's a different story.

[Gredival]

Nobody is saying House isn't a good doctor, but the fact remains that he does what no other doctor would because he is definitely breaking rules a lot of the time.

House is quintessentially a utilitarian. He cares about right and wrong in an absolute sense. When someone is a moron, he belittles them for their wrong beliefs because he sees a single objective truth. As a result he's not bothered with details such as the rules. Rules are general guidelines but he feels he is greater than that. When he figures out what Chase and Foreman did he doesn't care because he merely accepts it was probably overall good for Jones-Hitler to bite the bullet.

A key point to remember is that House as a character only gets away with his act... cause he's right. He's brilliant enough that no one can object to his methods; he's smarter so by all means the assumption goes he has the best judgment. It's also the only reason people tolerate him being an ass and why Cuddy lets him do insane treatments.

We wouldn't really want just any doctor pulling the stunts that House does, and we wouldn't want just anyone making decisions to kill patients based on their best judgement.

Cameron doesn't let it slip because she's the basic Kantian. She feels that House is violating universal rules which no one has a right to do, such as murder, no matter how smart they are.

td;lr = House is the Übermensch and Cameron is a Kantian hang wringer.

[Lhyet]

Does anyone happen to have a torrent link for this episode? Eztv appears to be down.

[Meph]

Ive started using http://www.torrentzap.com/ since eztv and mininova are down

[Lhyet]

Brilliant. Thanks very much guys.

[fishstix]

Ive started using http://www.torrentzap.com/ since eztv and mininova are down

the torrent/trackers are still up for eztv and are usually updated on twitter if the site's down http://twitter.com/EZTV_IT

and mininova going legit makes me sad, I've been using it since torrenting started and it was called suprnova D:

[Lhyet]

Loved the episode. With Wilson being my second favourite character this was a very nice surprise.

I'm also loving the new House. I'm glad he's still being manipulative and a bit of an ass, but for the most part it's much more playful than the last few seasons.
His admittance to Wilson that he if he dies then House wouldn't have anyone was really touching and such a step forward for him. It's nice to see the emotions and know that he's still human. And the ending was great also. Lotsa manlove right there.
The little bits with House's team made me laugh, especially 'It's not tennis'.

As for Cameron, I'm glad to see she's gone. She always annoyed and bored me.

[Zilong]

Yeah, fuck House x Cuddy, moar House x Wilson plz

[Tyrath]

I thought a Wilson centric episode would be boring. How wrong I was. That episode was great, especially near the end. I love the "angry" Wilson.

[Rhyis.]

Yeah, fuck House x Cuddy, moar House x Wilson plz

Truer words.


I've had a man-crush on Wilson since Dead Poet Society tbh.

[Lexa]

There's an old interview with Hugh Laurie from back when House was in its first or second season (I think he was on Inside Actor's Studio), where someone asked who he'd rather see House with, Cuddy, Cameron or Wilson. Laurie replied, "Give him long enough, I'm confident he'll work his way through all 3."

[Lbelle]

I LOVED this episode and can't wait for the Cuddy episode. 5 Seasons of just House were amazing and I loved all of them, but opening it up for the other characters is a huge breath of fresh air into the series and I totally love love love how they did it.

[Priran]

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but during the scene where Wilson throws out House's margarita jello shots, House is watching Stiletto (the comic book/TV show/movie from 3 episodes ago).

[Elmer the Pointy]

http://community.livejournal.com/hou...er/130936.html

03 December 2009 @ 08:38 pm
Title for Episode 11
The title for 6x11 is "The Down Low" and will air 11 January 2010.

source: Greg Yaitanes via twitter.

[Correction]

http://community.livejournal.com/hou...er/130936.html

WHYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Chun Liroy]

So After the dec 14. episode there won't be any until the 11th on Jan? fucking fail

[Resin]

Truer words.


I've had a man-crush on Wilson since Dead Poet Society tbh.

Oh captain, my captain!

Great episode; really enjoyed it. Loved seeing Wilson have a bunch of "House moments".

[Eticket]

So After the dec 14. episode there won't be any until the 11th on Jan? fucking fail

There are no new episodes until January. The 12/14 episode is a repeat.

[Chun Liroy]

Oh. Fuck you Fox false advertising