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    I thought it was out of place as well.

    But with places like that they can induce rapid detox...which would be a fucking pain in the neck.

    But I'm glad it turned out the way it did, when he came in the day after detoxing and said "I feel great" I was like WTF? It could take YEARS to feel...decent, let alone great.

    Can't wait to see where they will go with this.

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    Wow, the last 10 minutes of tonight's episode were so creepy. That was absolutely ridiculous. >.< Such a great ending to this season, I can't wait for the next.

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    wow... epic.

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    Anyone else feel horrible for the old guy? My wife and I both said 'that's just not nice at all'.

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    Okay, they totally got me.

    I was like, wow, the last two episodes were so heavy, now we're getting a light-funny episode for the actual finale? That's kinda odd. Oh well.

    And I was thinking, you can't detox from vicadin overnight... but hey, dramatic license, I guess? Oh well.

    But the last 10 minutes of House were like HAH oh yeah? GOT YOU.

    And I was like. shit.

    Hugh Laurie is a great actor. I mean, the whole cast is really great. But serious-scared-lost House is heart breaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eticket View Post
    wow... epic.

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    Anyone else feel horrible for the old guy? My wife and I both said 'that's just not nice at all'.
    It was amazing because House showed compassion towards him.

    Honestly this episode was fucking amazing, probably one of the greatest they've ever done. Manly tears at the end of it for me.

    Seriously, bravo.

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    When the old guy walked into House's office, my immediate reaction was "What the fuck is Saul doing on House?"

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    BEST
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    The look in House's eyes when he realized what had happened to him seriously almost made me cry for the first time since the 8th grade. Absolutely brilliant. This season has been absolutely incredible. My hat goes off to the amazing writers and to Hugh fucking Laurie.

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    Holy Shit.


    Episode just blew my mind, for real. Never saw that coming, what a damn good show.

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    As everyone has said above, amazing. This is going to be hard to come back from, don't you lose your license for checking into a mental hospital or something? Is he going in under a fake name?

    Kutner was in the episode because he was the root of House being tipped over the edge of insanity, that's what the writers have said, each person will deal with his death in their own way. House's was the hallucinations.

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    Wait.. now that I think about it, I am confused. Why was Cuddy doing all those things to try to piss House off then? Was that also a hallucination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anamanagucci View Post
    Wait.. now that I think about it, I am confused. Why was Cuddy doing all those things to try to piss House off then? Was that also a hallucination?
    I...think so...honestly don't know if we can be sure until next season.

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    Wait! She talked with Wilson, they weren't exactly specific because House walked in on them in the middle of talking. I really think there is some truth to that night, maybe House thinks his mind is bending/warping it all.. but wouldn't have Wilson confirmed it for him some how? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF we have to wait now..

    Edit: Also that scene where Cuddy walks out.. omg /datass.jpg. I would wreck that no questions asked.

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    great episode didnt expect it at all, also i am searching for that damn Vitamin String Quartet - as tears go by(rolling stones) cant fucking find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anamanagucci View Post
    Wait.. now that I think about it, I am confused. Why was Cuddy doing all those things to try to piss House off then? Was that also a hallucination?
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    As she explained near the end, she was pissed about House telling her to "suckle the bastard child" the other night. House was teasing Cuddy to get with her, but Cuddy was tormenting House for the opposite reasons. She was hurt by his words and realized they could never have a close personal relationship and had to be professional. It's all about two sides refusing to communicate.

    So we see the episode through House, and we have a wacky, squawking old man. He's played by Carl Reiner, which is perfect because you immediately don't take him seriously - you know he's just there for a laugh. House doesn't listen to the man, and he doesn't listen to Cuddy. He thinks she's all confused about the sex when she's really trying to say she's fed up.

    The fun's over once the barriers of communication are finally broken. It turns out the man's life is over, and so is House's. Everything was all jokes and games until he got his head out of that fantasy world and realized what people were trying to tell him. We assumed Carl Reiner to be a gag character and were taken by surprise by the end. House wanted to believe he got with Cuddy and put his own meaning to her actions. So do the viewers, since we're seeing things as he did. It's perfectly written so as to cause you to have the exact same reaction House would have; you're completely shocked and left wondering what was real and what wasn't.

    The thing with the arm was really cool too. It turned out the patient used this special high-power deodorant he thought he needed. The more he used it, the sicker he was, and it caused his left arm to be a dick and hurt people around him. The girlfriend ran from him just like Cuddy ran from House. They both had emotional reactions and gave up. However, once they each finally got close enough to recognize the problem for what it was (deodorant/pills), the people (or appendages) they were trying to please responded with kindness. It's just too bad it was all in House's mind until it was too late.


    Absolute best episode of the series. I could go on about it for hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer the Pointy View Post
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    As she explained near the end, she was pissed about House telling her to "suckle the bastard child" the other night. House was teasing Cuddy to get with her, but Cuddy was tormenting House for the opposite reasons. She was hurt by his words and realized they could never have a close personal relationship and had to be professional. It's all about two sides refusing to communicate.

    So we see the episode through House, and we have a wacky, squawking old man. He's played by Carl Reiner, which is perfect because you immediately don't take him seriously - you know he's just there for a laugh. House doesn't listen to the man, and he doesn't listen to Cuddy. He thinks she's all confused about the sex when she's really trying to say she's fed up.

    The fun's over once the barriers of communication are finally broken. It turns out the man's life is over, and so is House's. Everything was all jokes and games until he got his head out of that fantasy world and realized what people were trying to tell him. We assumed Carl Reiner to be a gag character and were taken by surprise by the end. House wanted to believe he got with Cuddy and put his own meaning to her actions. So do the viewers, since we're seeing things as he did. It's perfectly written so as to cause you to have the exact same reaction House would have; you're completely shocked and left wondering what was real and what wasn't.

    The thing with the arm was really cool too. It turned out the patient used this special high-power deodorant he thought he needed. The more he used it, the sicker he was, and it caused his left arm to be a dick and hurt people around him. The girlfriend ran from him just like Cuddy ran from House. They both had emotional reactions and gave up. However, once they each finally got close enough to recognize the problem for what it was (deodorant/pills), the people (or appendages) they were trying to please responded with kindness. It's just too bad it was all in House's mind until it was too late.
    ^A+ would read again.

    I took it as House either realizing he is worse seeing Cutner or that all of his problems stemmed from his would be to his actual employees dieing off.

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    I thought something was off when the team didn't comment on his lipstick-twirling (Since it seemed like they made a point of showing him doing it). Can't say I ever saw that coming, though...

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    I'm not sure who looked worse off when House checked in at the end, him or Wilson.

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    I wasn't sold on the Kutner thing at first, but if it truly is a mental issue, and his death was the trigger, then it made sense.

    The only issue I had with the episode was the wedding. The timing just seemed completely off. 'Oh hey guys, I know things seemed up in the air but we're still getting married tomorrow, see you all there.' It just felt forced to counterpoint the wedding scenes with the House/Wilson scenes.

    Great writeup Elmer.

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    i am very sad... the entire episode was so fun and enjoying. that guy with the crazy arm, totally hilarious. the old guy with the SQUUAKKK, no wait that's not it. cuddy and house fighting playfully.

    then, bomb dropped. oh man what a funny episode, now house is going to talk to cuddy--what? it was all a hallucination?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eticket View Post
    I wasn't sold on the Kutner thing at first, but if it truly is a mental issue, and his death was the trigger, then it made sense.

    The only issue I had with the episode was the wedding. The timing just seemed completely off. 'Oh hey guys, I know things seemed up in the air but we're still getting married tomorrow, see you all there.' It just felt forced to counterpoint the wedding scenes with the House/Wilson scenes.

    Great writeup Elmer.
    I think it was supposed to be more of an, "over the summer montage". I don't think the wedding or even House going to the Mental Ward was the very next day. Amazing episode. I wish the House or Lost writers could take over Heroes and fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer the Pointy View Post
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    As she explained near the end, she was pissed about House telling her to "suckle the bastard child" the other night. House was teasing Cuddy to get with her, but Cuddy was tormenting House for the opposite reasons. She was hurt by his words and realized they could never have a close personal relationship and had to be professional. It's all about two sides refusing to communicate.

    So we see the episode through House, and we have a wacky, squawking old man. He's played by Carl Reiner, which is perfect because you immediately don't take him seriously - you know he's just there for a laugh. House doesn't listen to the man, and he doesn't listen to Cuddy. He thinks she's all confused about the sex when she's really trying to say she's fed up.

    The fun's over once the barriers of communication are finally broken. It turns out the man's life is over, and so is House's. Everything was all jokes and games until he got his head out of that fantasy world and realized what people were trying to tell him. We assumed Carl Reiner to be a gag character and were taken by surprise by the end. House wanted to believe he got with Cuddy and put his own meaning to her actions. So do the viewers, since we're seeing things as he did. It's perfectly written so as to cause you to have the exact same reaction House would have; you're completely shocked and left wondering what was real and what wasn't.

    The thing with the arm was really cool too. It turned out the patient used this special high-power deodorant he thought he needed. The more he used it, the sicker he was, and it caused his left arm to be a dick and hurt people around him. The girlfriend ran from him just like Cuddy ran from House. They both had emotional reactions and gave up. However, once they each finally got close enough to recognize the problem for what it was (deodorant/pills), the people (or appendages) they were trying to please responded with kindness. It's just too bad it was all in House's mind until it was too late.


    Absolute best episode of the series. I could go on about it for hours.
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but

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    I don't think Cuddy was doing anything particularly out of the ordinary...from the moment House walked into Cuddy's office and gave her the line about the kid, he was stuck in his own head. She was pissed but mostly just tired and has steeled herself against his antics for so long that she just decided to leave before either of them said something they'd really regret, and that was the end of it.

    His mind made an effort to hold on to what was important to him while cutting out the noise and things that interfered (Amber, Cuddy's baby taking away her attention to him), and then continued to delve inward on itself, satisfying the reasoning centers of his brain with emotional responses that made sense. He knows Cuddy cares for him and would do anything to see him cured, so took advantage of that (again, in his head), but to do so it also had to play out a reasonable scenario in which he detoxes so Cuddy would be there. After the detox, well he wouldn't reasonably have pills around, so the medicine is replaced by an errant tube of lipstick. His interactions with the other patients probably happened, but his perception of events wasn't organizing itself properly (the pancreatic solution to Scott that was subconsciously for Reiner); I don't believe they were part of his mental breakdown.

    Cuddy sent Carl Reiner to House as part of her usual probing to force him into clinic duty, a normal day at the office; House is of course having none of it and continues his usual games, while also pushing the envelope continually with various stalker-like behavior trying to prove to Wilson (and ultimately, himself) that Cuddy is hot for him. Having no success he challenges her feelings directly by announcing it openly to the entire lobby, which of course is the final straw after the sleight about her kid, given that it's a blatant lie and destructive to her authority. Only once he attempts to talk to her and reconcile the matter does his rationale suddenly get a splash of cold water and realize that nothing is quite working out in his head...and at that point it all fits, and the noise is not only no longer supressed, but comes back in greater force, including new aberrations (Kutner) that have compounded on the continual loss/guilt/pain/whatever you want to call it that he suffers from.

    He waves the white flag and realizes this is not something he can conquer on his own.

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