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  1. #181
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaru
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Elemental Seal for RDM/WHM
    Convert for BLM? >_> idk maybe I'm just used to convert from RDM D:
    Auto-Refresh?
    meh on RDM I'd see no point, but BLM that's good ;x

  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaru
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Elemental Seal for RDM/WHM
    Convert for BLM? >_> idk maybe I'm just used to convert from RDM D:
    Auto-Refresh?
    meh on RDM I'd see no point, but BLM that's good ;x
    But if you could have Conserve MP and Auto Refresh as a RDM, life would be good. (Because seriously, RDM/WHM can go die in a ditch. RDM/BLM for life!)

  3. #183
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    Auto-Refresh is still the more dependable MP recovery. Given the choice, I'd take that over Conserve MP as a tack-on trait.

    Then again I can't quite figure why all MP using jobs don't get inherent Auto-Refresh at some level anyway. Everyone should get Auto-Regen or Auto-Refresh...not like it's gonna save you from anything remotely dangerous.

  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    But if you could have Conserve MP and Auto Refresh as a RDM, life would be good. (Because seriously, RDM/WHM can go die in a ditch. RDM/BLM for life!)
    qft

  5. #185
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    It wouldnt totally deplete the need for RDM/WHM though ;o

  6. #186
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    this is where i see private servers excelling when they come out.

  7. #187
    Been Here Longer Than you
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    I've played since JP Beta on JPPS2. Still got all the junk that came with the box somewhere. The guy left out a bunch of the GM+player events.

  8. #188
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaru
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Elemental Seal for RDM/WHM
    Convert for BLM? >_> idk maybe I'm just used to convert from RDM D:
    Auto-Refresh?
    meh on RDM I'd see no point, but BLM that's good ;x
    But if you could have Conserve MP and Auto Refresh as a RDM, life would be good. (Because seriously, RDM/WHM can go die in a ditch. RDM/BLM for life!)
    Conserve MP would be very nice too, combined with my awesome Magnetic Earring D: I just wrote those two things in a rush >\

    (I'll fight you, I hate being RDM/BLM. Someone needs an Erase or status removal in my party and I'm jamming the button, but nothing's happening.)

  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    It wouldnt totally deplete the need for RDM/WHM though ;o
    Where's my curaga...

  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassiAsura
    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    It wouldnt totally deplete the need for RDM/WHM though ;o
    Where's my curaga, erase, paralyna, silena, blindna...

  11. #191
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    plus /WHM gives you 5 more base MND! >_> for all your slow/paralyze needs

  12. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaru
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Elemental Seal for RDM/WHM
    Convert for BLM? >_> idk maybe I'm just used to convert from RDM D:
    Auto-Refresh?
    meh on RDM I'd see no point, but BLM that's good ;x
    But if you could have Conserve MP and Auto Refresh as a RDM, life would be good. (Because seriously, RDM/WHM can go die in a ditch. RDM/BLM for life!)
    Conserve MP would be very nice too, combined with my awesome Magnetic Earring D: I just wrote those two things in a rush >\

    (I'll fight you, I hate being RDM/BLM. Someone needs an Erase or status removal in my party and I'm jamming the button, but nothing's happening.)
    That's what WHMs, SMNs, and BRDs are for. Remember that time when we were fighting Khimaira and I owned its face with an Elemental Seal Paralyze for the last 10%? Good times, good times...

  13. #193
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    [quote=Septimus]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaru
    Quote Originally Posted by "Rocl":ec58f
    Elemental Seal for RDM/WHM
    Convert for BLM? >_> idk maybe I'm just used to convert from RDM D:
    Auto-Refresh?
    meh on RDM I'd see no point, but BLM that's good ;x
    But if you could have Conserve MP and Auto Refresh as a RDM, life would be good. (Because seriously, RDM/WHM can go die in a ditch. RDM/BLM for life!)
    Conserve MP would be very nice too, combined with my awesome Magnetic Earring D: I just wrote those two things in a rush >\

    (I'll fight you, I hate being RDM/BLM. Someone needs an Erase or status removal in my party and I'm jamming the button, but nothing's happening.)
    That's what WHMs, SMNs, and BRDs are for. Remember that time when we were fighting Khimaira and I owned its face with an Elemental Seal Paralyze for the last 10%? Good times, good times...[/quote:ec58f]

    ES+Paralyze II+Ice Shot sounds interesting, now that you mention it. So does ES+Slow II+Earth Shot and Elegy.

    I don't suppose ES works with Elegy too, lol. Khimaira is hard for both RDM and BRD to enfeeble.

  14. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall
    I've played since JP Beta on JPPS2. Still got all the junk that came with the box somewhere. The guy left out a bunch of the GM+player events.
    If you can think of any changes that were missed, feel free to post them, i'm curious about how this game has changed from JP beta till now.

  15. #195
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    [quote=Khamsin][quote=Septimus]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by "Xaru":f8899
    Quote Originally Posted by "Rocl":f8899
    Elemental Seal for RDM/WHM
    Convert for BLM? >_> idk maybe I'm just used to convert from RDM D:
    Auto-Refresh?
    meh on RDM I'd see no point, but BLM that's good ;x
    But if you could have Conserve MP and Auto Refresh as a RDM, life would be good. (Because seriously, RDM/WHM can go die in a ditch. RDM/BLM for life!)
    Conserve MP would be very nice too, combined with my awesome Magnetic Earring D: I just wrote those two things in a rush >\

    (I'll fight you, I hate being RDM/BLM. Someone needs an Erase or status removal in my party and I'm jamming the button, but nothing's happening.)
    That's what WHMs, SMNs, and BRDs are for. Remember that time when we were fighting Khimaira and I owned its face with an Elemental Seal Paralyze for the last 10%? Good times, good times...[/quote:f8899]

    ES+Paralyze II+Ice Shot sounds interesting, now that you mention it. So does ES+Slow II+Earth Shot and Elegy.

    I don't suppose ES works with Elegy too, lol. Khimaira is hard for both RDM and BRD to enfeeble.[/quote:f8899]
    Remember when I landed Paralyze without Elemental Seal every so often too? But honestly, I'd say for most things you'd need both a RDM/WHM and a RDM/BLM (providing you're not using your RDMs to stun naturally).

  16. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    I don't suppose ES works with Elegy too, lol. Khimaira is hard for both RDM and BRD to enfeeble.
    This BRD on the KI BRD forums said that ES+Elegy stacks. He might be wrong, he was a galka after all. Give me a few minutes and Ill edit this post with a link or something~

    EDIT: He was actually an elvaan, which is even worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilu on KI
    With Troubador now, you can sub BLM and then ES your elegy, and switch off with a 2nd bard doing that. Your elegy will last a LONG time, and always land. I do this with a 2nd bard in my LS when we fight Cerberus. I don't have issues with Elegy on Tiamat, its like 85-90% land rate for me now with all my wind skill. We just switch off doing ES elegy, and then songs for the tank's and mages, and when the elegy on Cerb is about to wear, then the next bard has ES, Troub, and elegy ready to put back on it.
    http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.p...912444#2912444

  17. #197
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    ES elegy does work, pretty nice on Cerb/Khim.

  18. #198
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    ES does work with BRD debuffs, hasn't anyone done BRD/BLM for ES threnody on DL? >_>

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    Threnody is easy as hell to land on DL anyways, especially with SV

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    Quote Originally Posted by RanDom_ErrOr
    this is where i see private servers excelling when they come out.
    Your gonna be waiting a long time for that.

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