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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by deivi
    I guess not as many ppl are still around from NA release as I thoguht, I feel old when ppl are posting stuff like;

    "wow i didnt know that" and "really you mean....?" and Im thinking "wow that was a long-ass time after release"
    If it makes you feel any better, I remember when the level cap was 70, and when Dynamis was first introduced, and when Level 3 skillchains were added.
    Word, I recall the first day of cap being raised to 75 being amazed that 2 japanese players on Kujata had hit 71. Beta testing of Dynamis had screenshots of dozens upon dozens of dead bodies with some hume F in bridal gear. How about the max rank being 9, not like it affected me back in the day.

    I bet there's a good number of people on here that don't remember when there was no such thing as the "Cursed Gear" section on the AH. Looks like we're now run by the generation that brought the terms "bloodporting" and "static pt" that made me lolz when they first hit the jungle.

  2. #82
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    Tarutaru Female's from Sandoria motion has been changed. Seemed their pose was very similar to Nazis motion...
    i knew there was something strange about those taru.

  3. #83
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    - To avoid farming purposes, Mobs that were lower than the player before this change started to become lower accuracy. However after the patch, mob's strength still remained strong and previously those mobs who missed like no tommorrow has become hard hitters (the cannot solo easy pray has been nerfed this day), which became more diffcult for users to solo.
    - Square anounced that they haven't touched the monsters higher from their level, but the next day people could start to hit fairly well towards IT conned monsters. As a fact, the next day from this patch, The Dark lord has been defeated for the first time.
    - The PT level difference affecting the net exp has been implemented.
    - Change in food. Before it was a fixed number has been changed into %.
    - <TP> command has been implemented.
    - The WS which was worthless without having Sneak attack (since they were not hitting), the WS that was treasured most which were the elemental based WS (Like red lotus blade) which were 100% hit, resists on these attacks has been implemented. (aka... nerf)
    - Magic burst now displays in the log.
    - When half resisted it never displayed the damage. The elemental magic has been revised. However healing, bloodpact, dark and holy magics aren't revised even now.
    - Teleport Vazl and Escape has been implemented.
    - Crosscounter's name has been displayed as D29. This has been fixed.
    - The search of new hunting ground continued and now started to explore the north. Fei-Yin become another popular hunting ground.
    - Invis, Sneak and deodorise now are dropped from normal monsters of corresponding level. The exploration speed has increased from this.
    - Bst charm was 5min before, but changed into 15seconds. Now officially bsts were considered as a solo able job.
    - Bad loot in the treasure chest has been implemented which now has jewlries and gil.
    - Previously Bastokans could purchase all kind of ore in the vendor near the airship departure place. This has been nerfed, and the camping of guild has exceeded.
    Worst update ever?

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by blister1
    - To avoid farming purposes, Mobs that were lower than the player before this change started to become lower accuracy. However after the patch, mob's strength still remained strong and previously those mobs who missed like no tommorrow has become hard hitters (the cannot solo easy pray has been nerfed this day), which became more diffcult for users to solo.
    - Square anounced that they haven't touched the monsters higher from their level, but the next day people could start to hit fairly well towards IT conned monsters. As a fact, the next day from this patch, The Dark lord has been defeated for the first time.
    - The PT level difference affecting the net exp has been implemented.
    - Change in food. Before it was a fixed number has been changed into %.
    - <TP> command has been implemented.
    - The WS which was worthless without having Sneak attack (since they were not hitting), the WS that was treasured most which were the elemental based WS (Like red lotus blade) which were 100% hit, resists on these attacks has been implemented. (aka... nerf)
    - Magic burst now displays in the log.
    - When half resisted it never displayed the damage. The elemental magic has been revised. However healing, bloodpact, dark and holy magics aren't revised even now.
    - Teleport Vazl and Escape has been implemented.
    - Crosscounter's name has been displayed as D29. This has been fixed.
    - The search of new hunting ground continued and now started to explore the north. Fei-Yin become another popular hunting ground.
    - Invis, Sneak and deodorise now are dropped from normal monsters of corresponding level. The exploration speed has increased from this.
    - Bst charm was 5min before, but changed into 15seconds. Now officially bsts were considered as a solo able job.
    - Bad loot in the treasure chest has been implemented which now has jewlries and gil.
    - Previously Bastokans could purchase all kind of ore in the vendor near the airship departure place. This has been nerfed, and the camping of guild has exceeded.
    Worst update ever?
    Being able to hit IT mobs was a good thing...though it depends how you look at it, if you are stuck with noobs still thinking IT+++ mobs are the best for exp, then not so good; still it was a good update that they sorta ninja nerfed eva on mobs.

    Nah, some of these things were great, specially back then.. meat kabobs/chiefkabobs anyone? godliest things for their price until they were nerfed (was like cheat crack, but better).

    Without Vahzl teleport, getting up there is fucking annoying, great imo.

    Back when bsts could mpk and all that stuff, was nice to be able to charm frequently and not every fucking 5 mins, lol.

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by othellojr
    Quote Originally Posted by blister1
    - To avoid farming purposes, Mobs that were lower than the player before this change started to become lower accuracy. However after the patch, mob's strength still remained strong and previously those mobs who missed like no tommorrow has become hard hitters (the cannot solo easy pray has been nerfed this day), which became more diffcult for users to solo.
    - Square anounced that they haven't touched the monsters higher from their level, but the next day people could start to hit fairly well towards IT conned monsters. As a fact, the next day from this patch, The Dark lord has been defeated for the first time.
    - The PT level difference affecting the net exp has been implemented.
    - Change in food. Before it was a fixed number has been changed into %.
    - <TP> command has been implemented.
    - The WS which was worthless without having Sneak attack (since they were not hitting), the WS that was treasured most which were the elemental based WS (Like red lotus blade) which were 100% hit, resists on these attacks has been implemented. (aka... nerf)
    - Magic burst now displays in the log.
    - When half resisted it never displayed the damage. The elemental magic has been revised. However healing, bloodpact, dark and holy magics aren't revised even now.
    - Teleport Vazl and Escape has been implemented.
    - Crosscounter's name has been displayed as D29. This has been fixed.
    - The search of new hunting ground continued and now started to explore the north. Fei-Yin become another popular hunting ground.
    - Invis, Sneak and deodorise now are dropped from normal monsters of corresponding level. The exploration speed has increased from this.
    - Bst charm was 5min before, but changed into 15seconds. Now officially bsts were considered as a solo able job.
    - Bad loot in the treasure chest has been implemented which now has jewlries and gil.
    - Previously Bastokans could purchase all kind of ore in the vendor near the airship departure place. This has been nerfed, and the camping of guild has exceeded.
    Worst update ever?
    Being able to hit IT mobs was a good thing...though it depends how you look at it, if you are stuck with noobs still thinking IT+++ mobs are the best for exp, then not so good; still it was a good update that they sorta ninja nerfed eva on mobs.

    Nah, some of these things were great, specially back then.. meat kabobs/chiefkabobs anyone? godliest things for their price until they were nerfed (was like cheat crack, but better).

    Without Vahzl teleport, getting up there is fucking annoying, great imo.

    Back when bsts could mpk and all that stuff, was nice to be able to charm frequently and not every fucking 5 mins, lol.
    I thought that meant charm last 5 min, but after the update it only last 15 seconds before the mob went aggressive.

  6. #86
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    No, it was the recast. But figure that was when you could charm more mob families than now, and didn't get an XP cut.

  7. #87
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    Looking at all this I wish I would have picked up the NA copy at release.

    /slaps himself for not getting into it earlier

  8. #88
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    I also remember when mining was profitable, and there were no RMT anywhere. I mined for most of my income. Once the Strange Apparatuses were activated, I went and did all those and sold Rune weapons and Arcane Flowerpots for a good chunk of money, too. Combined, that bought me my 3 mil Juggernaut and 2 mil Haubergeon (and later, sold it and bought hauberk for same price).

    Sadly, I didn't sell Juggernaut during that brief period where it hit 70 mil. Now prices aren't that far above what they were back then, though still somewhat more expensive since there's more gil flowing through the economy now than there used to be.

  9. #89
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    - Crosscounter's name has been displayed as D29. This has been fixed.
    Didn't something like that happen w/ kraken club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerme
    - Crosscounter's name has been displayed as D29. This has been fixed.
    Didn't something like that happen w/ kraken club?
    No, that was displayed as U238 or something.

  11. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Killerme
    - Crosscounter's name has been displayed as D29. This has been fixed.
    Didn't something like that happen w/ kraken club?
    Yes, though it was displayed as U238 or something.
    Fixed.

  12. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by othellojr
    Quote Originally Posted by blister1
    -- To avoid farming purposes, Mobs that were lower than the player before this change started to become lower accuracy. However after the patch, mob's strength still remained strong and previously those mobs who missed like no tommorrow has become hard hitters (the cannot solo easy pray has been nerfed this day), which became more diffcult for users to solo.
    - Square anounced that they haven't touched the monsters higher from their level, but the next day people could start to hit fairly well towards IT conned monsters. As a fact, the next day from this patch, The Dark lord has been defeated for the first time.
    - The PT level difference affecting the net exp has been implemented.
    - Change in food. Before it was a fixed number has been changed into %.
    - <TP> command has been implemented.
    - The WS which was worthless without having Sneak attack (since they were not hitting), the WS that was treasured most which were the elemental based WS (Like red lotus blade) which were 100% hit, resists on these attacks has been implemented. (aka... nerf)
    - Magic burst now displays in the log.
    - When half resisted it never displayed the damage. The elemental magic has been revised. However healing, bloodpact, dark and holy magics aren't revised even now.
    - Teleport Vazl and Escape has been implemented.
    - Crosscounter's name has been displayed as D29. This has been fixed.
    - The search of new hunting ground continued and now started to explore the north. Fei-Yin become another popular hunting ground.
    - Invis, Sneak and deodorise now are dropped from normal monsters of corresponding level. The exploration speed has increased from this.
    - Bst charm was 5min before, but changed into 15seconds. Now officially bsts were considered as a solo able job.
    - Bad loot in the treasure chest has been implemented which now has jewlries and gil.
    - Previously Bastokans could purchase all kind of ore in the vendor near the airship departure place. This has been nerfed, and the camping of guild has exceeded.
    Being able to hit IT mobs was a good thing...though it depends how you look at it, if you are stuck with noobs still thinking IT+++ mobs are the best for exp, then not so good; still it was a good update that they sorta ninja nerfed eva on mobs.

    Nah, some of these things were great, specially back then.. meat kabobs/chiefkabobs anyone? godliest things for their price until they were nerfed (was like cheat crack, but better).

    Without Vahzl teleport, getting up there is fucking annoying, great imo.

    Back when bsts could mpk and all that stuff, was nice to be able to charm frequently and not every fucking 5 mins, lol.
    Rather not quote the whole again, but bolded the crap that well.. was a downgrade, seems like for every decent idea they had they decided to bring something else down. Some of those are pretty trivial such as the Bastokian NPC thing, but still.

  13. #93
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    I remember being really really mad that I didn't have more time to level before that Xmas tree event. After the Gustaberg tree went down I couldn't participate in the Jugner fight because my main was like MNK20 at the time lol. That was, hands down, the coolest event ever. It was also the first, and for a long time only, time that NA and JP players got along unless the NA was a BRD.

  14. #94
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    Didn't see it mentioned in that thread, but one update I remember having a notice on it going:

    "An issue where the Tonberry special ability 'Throat Stab' would cause a player hit by it to disconnect has been addressed."

    I'd never heard of it before then but the thought of Throat Stab making a player dc has to be one of the funniest bugs I've seen.

    That and the much more recent "An issue where Golden-Tongued Culberry would gain chainspell ability when spawned has been addressed." I read about a couple of groups wiping to that. Chainspell Death Go!

  15. #95
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    Re: FFXI Update History JP Beta to CoP: A Player's Perspecti

    Quote Originally Posted by WizerdRemora

    Also, the "." item name was used again when the ToAU expansion came out. A friend of mine who wasn't able to get the expansion was seeing "." on some of the new items before they were patched in. I don't think it lasted too long, but any new item had that name when he examined someone wearing it. (The new -1 weapons for example)
    You can create the . items by screwing up your dats too. Found that when I switched the wrong file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong
    The final fantasy name must be the only thing they have going for the first year or so...because it sounded like a pretty fucking subpar MMO.
    being the only MMO for non-PC gamers probably helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong
    And to think that we bitched so much about endgame and all that now...those patch notes sounded like something nightmares are made of. 12 ammo max, party kill being well below 200 exp, ACC being 1/4th of what it is today post 60 in a world without sushi...competition to exp in fucking davoi for god's sake.

    That must make 100 people caedarva mire seem like l33t exp.
    good thing for not having any perspective? going from "max level -1" to "max level" right now takes ~40,000 XP. in the first year of FFXI going from "max level -1" to "max level" took ~8,000 XP.

    hunting VT mobs without high accuracy for 3k/hr isn't really such a big deal when 2-3 hours of XPing got you that last level just the same.

    no doubt most of the changes made the game better but a lot of the changes weren't necessary till the game started evolving.
    not necessarily. Though Shia does not mention this, (I believe the update was shortly after he made these posts) I'm sure many of you remember when exp for each lvl 50+ was much higher, but SE adjusted it so the increase was not as great. iirc, before the patch, the exp tnl by lvl 55 was already 20k+ and increased by great bounds each lvl. I remember this well because I was in that lvl range right when they adjusted it and was quite relieved. (Though I remember many who already obtained 75 were very angry)

    The point is, back then the exp to go from 54 to 55 was quite a bit more than 8k so at 3k/hr it would have been pretty rough. I know for me, prior to the update, lvling in the 50s took quite a while in crappy parties only getting a few k per hour.

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    At the point that the xp got changed in that range, sushi was already in the game and 4-5k/hr parties were easily obtainable.

    He is talking about much, much earlier than that. And the only 75s that were "very angry" about the change in required xp were the foolish or jealous ones, as it benefited anyone and everyone who would ever level a new job to 75 again.

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    Hehe, I remember back then nobody read the updates on the website in my linkshell. We had been doing sky for a while, then all of a sudden the next time we go to pop gods, ZOMG WHAT IS THIS?! Lol had a blast. Watching MNKs spam Asuran with the Relics was wow (116ish return?), but even other jobs going at it was awesome lol. DRG/SAM was a big thing, even though against exp mobs Penta Spam missed more often than not. Having a powerlevel meant that somebody in the party had a friend who was a 25 WHM for Raise so you didn't have to HP. Seeing Light and Dark for the first time was hot. And if Fafnir was yellow, it wasn't because somebody just wiped the Aery and survivors escaped.

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    I remember there was an event with the bulls i think that if you hit one it'd knock you back either to the next zone or all the way the fuck to jeuno lol. I punched that mofo with my monk guess where it landed me. Think it gave those low level emity belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delekii
    At the point that the xp got changed in that range, sushi was already in the game and 4-5k/hr parties were easily obtainable.

    He is talking about much, much earlier than that. And the only 75s that were "very angry" about the change in required xp were the foolish or jealous ones, as it benefited anyone and everyone who would ever level a new job to 75 again.

    it was 124,000 exp less to attain 75 after the update when it was changed -.- which i never understood why SE didn't prepare for massive influxes of people crowding places like BD, Aery, VoS or sky with such an outdated system.

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