Lolsiris

[Marcin]

i still dont get this whole stunning for safety. do your tanks suck that bad that they cant do something simple like share hate?

No they don't suck but anyone can make a mistake or have a timer down while currently having hate. Like I said, it's for safety. Not really important.

wut?...assuming you're talking about Ni/Ichi timers being down when Tiamat stops flying and uses Mighty Strikes? rite?

Why the hell would utsusemi timers be down? Unless you're trying to blink shit when it flys...(LULZ)

[Konchuu]

OK IM GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS HOT POINTERS AGAIN, TAKE NOTES


90% of MS triggers are right after it lands. When it flies, its attacks go past shadows, and when it lands, touchdown strips shadows...so, DONT PUT SHADOWS UP. And if It happens to do that rare MS while its allready on the ground, if your shadows are down and your timers are off, you're fucked either way, and you need to bust out the dirge.



holy shit...you guys are morons rofl.

This isn't done directly after a landing because it's landing > wing > ni. When a couple shadows are absorbed we stun to make sure that the extra damage isn't taken. Like I said, it's NOT important.

[Cat]

And if It happens to do that rare MS while its allready on the ground, if your shadows are down and your timers are off, you're fucked either way, and you need to bust out the dirge.

So an unlucky combination of wings and double attacks suddenly make tanks suck?

Safety stunning used to be primarily if you used pld/war and AA, due to AA being unreliable at times. While a lot of shells use pld/nin now, some still stick with the good'ol '/war with AA order'.

[Mr.City]

I honestly expect more from this thread.

[NynJa]

where did I say anything about tanks sucking ?
I said you're fucked either way.


and osiris uses pld/nin...

[aurik]

And if It happens to do that rare MS while its allready on the ground, if your shadows are down and your timers are off, you're fucked either way, and you need to bust out the dirge.

So an unlucky combination of wings and double attacks suddenly make tanks suck?

Safety stunning used to be primarily if you used pld/war and AA, due to AA being unreliable at times. While a lot of shells use pld/nin now, some are still stuck in 2004.

Fixed.

[Konchuu]

And if It happens to do that rare MS while its allready on the ground, if your shadows are down and your timers are off, you're fucked either way, and you need to bust out the dirge.

So an unlucky combination of wings and double attacks suddenly make tanks suck?

Safety stunning used to be primarily if you used pld/war and AA, due to AA being unreliable at times. While a lot of shells use pld/nin now, some still stick with the good'ol '/war with AA order'.

Yea.. and it's not like it's even a big deal that we still do. It's a preference.

[Dion]

an unlucky combo of wings and double attacks would warrant a safety stun, but everytime it uses mighty strikes?

[Konchuu]

an unlucky combo of wings and double attacks would warrant a safety stun, but everytime it uses mighty strikes?

Why not? There are BLMs in the alliance DDing. Might as well use stun sometime. Helps with timers along with adding the bit of safety.

[NynJa]

an unlucky combo of wings and double attacks would warrant a safety stun, but everytime it uses mighty strikes?

Why not? There are BLMs in the alliance DDing. Might as well use stun sometime. Helps with timers along with adding the bit of safety.

how is that adding safety ??
if your shadows are down and your timers arent up, you're fucked anyways...

Stun on tiamat lasts like 1 second, thats not going to affect timers. Flash is going to have a MUCH greater impact than Stun. THE RISE OF BLM/PLD!!!!!!

[Desty]

ah wtf i missed 7 pages already, and i'm too lazy to read

but i guess it's still one sided ownage :D

Still not tired of being the laughing stock of the whole ffxi endgame community ?

[Krandor]

an unlucky combo of wings and double attacks would warrant a safety stun, but everytime it uses mighty strikes?

Why not? There are BLMs in the alliance DDing. Might as well use stun sometime. Helps with timers along with adding the bit of safety.

how is that adding safety ??
if your shadows are down and your timers arent up, you're fucked anyways...

Stun on tiamat lasts like 1 second, thats not going to affect timers. Flash is going to have a MUCH greater impact than Stun. THE RISE OF BLM/PLD!!!!!!

BRD/DRK.

You can add support stuns and give Dirge to the shitty co-tank!

[aurik]

Stop giving Chiz ideas, guys.

[Lordender]

this entire thread makes me laugh ;x

[NynJa]

BRD/DRK.

You can add support stuns and give Dirge to the shitty co-tank!

HOLY SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

[Skyylya]

Their tanks do suck though, either that or all their mages.

They had 3 plds and 2 or 3 nins? Pretty much just going in and dying as they unweakened. And you had easily 28-30 people in the zone for the fight. there were 34-35 there, only a few of which weren't yours. All this 'we didn't have the people' is bullshit. You had more than enough people there to handle corses and elementals without you having to do it all yourself.

[Tyche]

OH SHI...TIAMAT JUST WENT MIGHTY STRIKES AND IS TRIPLE ATTACKING, STUN STUN STUN, OUR SHADOWS ARE GOING DOWN! GET TO THE CHOPPER!

Edit: Lack of manpower is inexcusable for tiamat. People kill it with 12 and shit yo.

[Tekki]

OH SHI...TIAMAT JUST WENT MIGHTY STRIKES AND IS TRIPLE ATTACKING, STUN STUN STUN, OUR SHADOWS ARE GOING DOWN! GET TO THE CHOPPER!

Edit: Lack of manpower is inexcusable for tiamat. People kill it with 12 and shit yo.

Every time i see Tyche post i hear his voice from Vent, see his avatar and sig, check his qoute, and think: Pure awesome.

[Melena]

Know what's funnier? when it happens against Vrtra... >.>

Lol, you can't talk after cfhing jimmy after like 2.5 hours when we were learning to fight it back when cop wyrms got released 8)

[FFXIFlux]

an unlucky combo of wings and double attacks would warrant a safety stun, but everytime it uses mighty strikes?

Why not? There are BLMs in the alliance DDing. Might as well use stun sometime. Helps with timers along with adding the bit of safety.

Unecessary stuns are a HUGE waste of your agro, which, with it flailing you, is obviously a problem.