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  1. #141
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    Why cant SE make Salvage have a chance to drop some kings abj, be it at a low % at least its worthwhile.. Rather than it drop worthless crap that is gonna be toss away .

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    Well since you seem to know what's going to be dropping in Salvage already please share with the group. We'd love to know before the update what's in there.

  3. #143
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    As would I...

    I'm personally guessing that COR/BUM/PUP Relic Gear will drop here. I'm sure hoping those three get-ups they showed us aren't them (no pirate look to any of them), but if there's any place they'd add it, it would have to be here... Unless they have some other endgame idea or more Dynamis areas on the way, too.

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by ircgeek
    As would I...

    I'm personally guessing that COR/BUM/PUP Relic Gear will drop here. I'm sure hoping those three get-ups they showed us aren't them (no pirate look to any of them), but if there's any place they'd add it, it would have to be here... Unless they have some other endgame idea or more Dynamis areas on the way, too.
    If SE really adds a whole zone just for 3 jobs AF2, then they are really stupid. Seriously I wish people would quit suggesting this its the dumbest fucking idea ive ever heard. Have fun with your Blu Cor Pup alliance ttrying to clear this shit.

  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siatdiat
    Have fun with your Blu Cor Pup alliance ttrying to clear this shit.
    they probably can if it was like 12 BLUs, 3 CORs and 3 PUPs.

    don't forget multi-job people either.

  6. #146
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    My point still stand, no matter how dumb SE is, they arent dumb enough to make a whole endgame encounter for 3 jobs AF2. I foresee a similar rewards system to Limbus, and since this is possible to do more often and more freely, I see weaker rewards for it if the drops arent related to earning some kind of points or coins. The best possible thing I could imagine is the gear is sub par with a few ok pieces, but that there may be something similar to ??? item chest and that can drop something quite amazing about every 1/50 attempts.

  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siatdiat
    Quote Originally Posted by ircgeek
    As would I...

    I'm personally guessing that COR/BUM/PUP Relic Gear will drop here. I'm sure hoping those three get-ups they showed us aren't them (no pirate look to any of them), but if there's any place they'd add it, it would have to be here... Unless they have some other endgame idea or more Dynamis areas on the way, too.
    If SE really adds a whole zone just for 3 jobs AF2, then they are really stupid. Seriously I wish people would quit suggesting this its the dumbest fucking idea ive ever heard. Have fun with your Blu Cor Pup alliance ttrying to clear this shit.
    Because we all know that S-E wouldn't put other drops in there to make it worthwhile for other players. Jesus Christ you people are touchy.

  8. #148
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    I thought Dynamis only dropped MNK, WAR, and BST AF2 anyway...so it'd be about the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isiolia
    I thought Dynamis only dropped MNK, WAR, and BST AF2 anyway...so it'd be about the same...
    ...when people were debating if S-E would just add the new job relic to existing areas, I suggested we would just trade in the equivalent BST piece to an NPC for COR/BUM/PUP Relic. Problem solved.

  10. #150
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    They should just make all items in a zone generic by slot, but tied to the zone as well. So you'd get Tattered Gauntlets in Xarc, which could then be traded in for BST, THF, NIN, or WHM.

    Then all it'd take would be adding a new job to the list that you can trade in for, or just a different NPC to bring the item to.

  11. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Swatt
    Quote Originally Posted by Paegan
    it'll be Tele-Holla >> Sky and take about 30 seconds.
    Repeat however many times it takes not to end up in the pots room.

    j/k

    I hope
    i was 1/11 once. burnt all my sneak oils.
    I went something like 0/10 once...I eventually got sick of it, told my LS that the portal was being a fucking jewhore and wished them luck w/ that kirin, then warped.
    /sigh

  12. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by ircgeek
    So Salvage uses Assault Points - didn't even think of that idea. Just found that funny after the discussion yesterday.
    You didn't think of it because theres no affordance. It just doesn't make sense that you would have to do a completely unrelated task which has a 6-person cap to generate points that are used to get equipment items to instead use those points to give one-time access to an 18-person raid instance.

    Maybe SE agrees with some of the posters here, people aren't doing enough assaults, so they're going to make you do 'em.

  13. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    Quote Originally Posted by ircgeek
    So Salvage uses Assault Points - didn't even think of that idea. Just found that funny after the discussion yesterday.
    You didn't think of it because theres no affordance. It just doesn't make sense that you would have to do a completely unrelated task which has a 6-person cap to generate points that are used to get equipment items to instead use those points to give one-time access to an 18-person raid instance.

    Maybe SE agrees with some of the posters here, people aren't doing enough assaults, so they're going to make you do 'em.
    It should have been obvious after questioning the longevity of Assault, frankly. Dynamis costs you gil. BCNMs require seals (which take time to earn). ENMs require about an hour of footwork to enter. ISNMs require IS. Everything requires some sort of "points" to enter.

    Makes sense - bet they wish they added a point system to Garrison and Eco Warrior, too.

  14. #154
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    File size as reported by SE

    An update for FINAL FANTASY XI is currently scheduled for Dec. 18, 2006 at 14:00 (PST). Approximate file sizes and installation times for this update are shown below.

    [File size for clients with "Chains of Promathia" and "Treasures of Aht Urhgan" installed.]

    "PlayStation 2" Version
    Download file size: 19.4MB
    >>Analog modem (56Kbps) users
    Volume check: 8 minutes
    Download / Unzip: 1 hour, 46 minutes
    Installation: 3 minutes
    Total: About 1 hour, 57 minutes

    >>DSL (1Mbps) users
    Volume check: 5 minutes
    Download / Unzip: 16 minutes
    Installation: 3 minutes
    Total: About 24 minutes

    Windows Version
    Download file size: 27.5MB
    >>Analog modem (56Kbps) users
    Volume check: 9 minutes
    Download / Unzip: 1 hours, 52 minutes
    Installation: 1 minutes, 30 seconds
    Total: About 2 hours, 2 minutes, 30 seconds
    >>DSL (1Mbps) users
    Volume check: 6 minutes
    Download / Unzip: 9 minutes
    Installation: 1 minutes, 30 seconds
    Total: About 16 minutes, 30 seconds

    Xbox 360 Version
    Download file size: 33.8MB
    >>DSL (1Mbps) users
    Volume check: 4 minutes, 30 seconds
    Download / Unzip: 11 minutes
    Installation: 4 minutes
    Total: About 19 minutes, 30 seconds


    [File size for clients without "Chains of Promathia" and "Treasures of Aht Urhgan" installed.]

    "PlayStation 2" Version
    Download file size: 14.7MB
    >>Analog modem (56Kbps) users
    Volume check: 8 minutes
    Download / Unzip: 1 hour, 16 minutes
    Installation: 3 minutes
    Total: About 1 hour, 27 minutes

    >>DSL (1Mbps) users
    Volume check: 4 minute
    Download / Unzip: 16 minutes
    Installation: 3 minutes
    Total: About 23 minutes

    Windows Version
    Download file size: 16.5MB
    >>Analog modem (56Kbps) users
    Volume check: 8 minutes
    Download / Unzip: 1 hour, 23 minutes
    Installation: 1 minute, 30 seconds
    Total: About 1 hour, 32 minutes, 30 seconds

    >>DSL (1Mbps) users
    Volume check: 5 minutes
    Download / Unzip: 8 minutes
    Installation: 1 minute, 30 seconds
    Total: About 14 minutes, 30 seconds


    * Please note that the above times are for reference only. Download times depend on individual users' network environment and may vary from those shown above. Also, this update will require more time if previous version updates were not completed.

  15. #155
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    It just sound like they gonna have a surpise file note... S-E sucks tho.

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